SoraNoKuni
Member
@Extra tier in 3 months, may give it a go, SE tries to do all the right things but they somehow fail, hopefully FF16 is a 10/10.
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spartan30gr
Member
2 years exclusivity for this crap?
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Anime, 4 DLC's, 2 cancelled DLCs, an awful CGI movie with Hollywood VA's. A competent studio would have consolidated all of that into one well planned project and asked for a bit of time to release the game in a better and more satisfying state. However, Luminous isn't competent and doesn't care for their craft as XV and now Forspoken shows.
Topher
Gold Member
2 years exclusivity for this crap?
Two years? Seriously?
spartan30gr
Member
Forspoken will be released on PC and will be a limited-time console exclusive for the PlayStation 5. While the duration of the exclusivity was previously unknown, it has now been revealed that the game will be a PS5 exclusive until January 23, 2025. Don't expect a Forspoken PS4 release date to be announced.
Topher
Gold Member
Saber
Gold Member
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ikbalCO
Member
Dude.
That comparison with ac: unity is jaw dropping.
What went wrong with this game graphic vise? Ff15 was looker at the time of release on the same engine.
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winjer
Gold Member
yep, it's a technical mess.
To think that a game released on at the launch of the PS4 era, can look better than a new game released on the PS5, 2 years in the console generation.
how in the ever loving fuck is this game fresh? it's literally like every other fucking game out there, and it's shit. you are a dumb dumb. may god have mercy on your soul.Don’t be so petty. There is clearly a hate agenda for this game for some time now. It never had a fair chance.
Maybe you don’t miss more one off games but I do. We had plenty of these in the past and that’s why we only get sequels and remakes now.
I don’t mind playing not perfect game. I am keeping my pre order. I made my decision after playing through the demo and ignoring hate surrounding the game.
I never said it will be a 10/10.
But it’s clearly not a 5/10. Probably even saints row isn’t.
I view this as something fresh.
For me there really is a big gap between AA and AAA releases. This is not 360 gen anymore. Games are either a service or multiplayer and I don’t play these mostly.
And everything is a sequel so I will give the game a chance myself.
I can always sell it, not problem. Just like Callisto which turned out to be my worst game of 2022
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
PC version it is then.
Just hope ive got the grunt to actually push the visuals high enough to get past the dithering in the hair.
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Looks like the game isn't great, mostly for two broad reasons.
First is some bad QoL things like forcing the character to stand still during all dialog sequences., even when she's reading long texts or something. This is rather low-hanging fruit that should be easily solvable with patches.
The second is the writing being bad. Mostly from the main character being the typical zoomer narcissistic asshole who berates everyone around them, and then everyone somehow believe the zoomer is super likeable, through some Deus Ex Machina motive typical of piss poor writers.
Other than launching a patch with new dialogue and animations, it looks like very little can be done about this second reason.
I guess we can learn that technical flaws can be corrected in games through patches, but a bad story / dialogue will forever be bad.
First is some bad QoL things like forcing the character to stand still during all dialog sequences., even when she's reading long texts or something. This is rather low-hanging fruit that should be easily solvable with patches.
The second is the writing being bad. Mostly from the main character being the typical zoomer narcissistic asshole who berates everyone around them, and then everyone somehow believe the zoomer is super likeable, through some Deus Ex Machina motive typical of piss poor writers.
Other than launching a patch with new dialogue and animations, it looks like very little can be done about this second reason.
I guess we can learn that technical flaws can be corrected in games through patches, but a bad story / dialogue will forever be bad.
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Pretty much.
I actually think FFXV has a very good story, some good gameplay ideas, some good sidequests, that's all broken down by horrible storytelling and execution. And that's completely outside of Versus, I'm strictly talking about XV when it was at Luminous, not what Versus *may* have been.
Its a studio that clearly needs more direction, instead Square gave it a project that needed extensive cross-continent communication with a translator, outsourcing important parts like creative direction/writing. That's not easy to organize, like at all.
Baffles the mind really.
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MayauMiao
Member
Yeah the strange glow is all over it made the game look like it was from a PS3 era.
20fps in some area is just unacceptable.
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winjer
Gold Member
Better wait for reviews. There is the chance that it's even worse. Too many games on PC have been plagued with stuttering from shader compilation and asset streaming.
For them not to give out codes for the PC version, to reviewers, might mean it has even more issues.
Remember when CDPR didn't send out codes for the consale versions?
Kacho
Member
Oh this should be interesting
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Based on Square witholding reviews from so many outlets, combined with the generally mediocre previews even after the delays, I guessed in the range of 6-7s. I was not disappointed. What took the team so long? This game just looks straight-up boring.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
720p in Performance mode by NeoGaf standards, ooff
OceanGaming
Member
Punished Miku
Gold Member
It's by Bear McCreary, the creator of the best OST ever in the history of Sony.
Jaybe
Member
Seems like John has a fair amount of praise for this aside from lighting. 40fps modes out of the gate with his fave being raytracing 40fps.
winjer
Gold Member
It is, in the same way that watching a plane crash.
John did try not to be very harsh, but still, it's difficult to hide how bad the game looks.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Should we expect the score to drop after the folks who were denied review codes finally release their reviews?
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
I don't think any decent reviewer worth their salt would dock a game's review score because that individual is mad at a publisher, if that's what you mean. That's beyond petty, and completely unprofessional.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Oh they definitely would. Check out the ongoing pettiness between Kotaku and Bethesda for the last decade.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Yeah, the studio lacks a beating hearts as both projects showed. XV was much more competent despite my dislike for that game, but that's not a surprise considering its a mainline FF and Square will give that more resources than a new IP. But after two projects that have failed to impress a lot of people, with this being considered quite awful, I'd say rather than try and salvage the studio they might as well scrap it and redistribute the resources. No one will be excited for another project by Luminous after this, even if they did turn a corner with better creatives and game designers.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I was more wondering if they gave review codes to reviewers from whom they expected better scores.
GenericUser
Member
This is so good man, kudos
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
All the decent people left Kotaku years ago at this point, after the new corporate buyers took over. That place is nothing anymore. But Bethesda was in the wrong for that one. Being upset that a journo leaked the setting of your game and then black-listing them that's just lame. I feel like Bethesda comes out of that looking like the asshole, not Schreier or Totilo.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Oh, that's 100% what they did. For sure. If you gave the game a mediocre preview in your hands-on coverage, you likely were put on the list of outlets to skip. Lame practice indeed, and not like it's helped them at all. The game clearly doesn't need any help getting mediocre scores.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
kunonabi
Member
Probably the most impressive thing about the game to be honest.
Denton
Member
Very pretty, it is quite baffling how bad she looks in the game.i give her a 100
{insert code here}
Member
67 MC........
Gonna give it a go then. My opinions on games has been diverging from the mainstream/popular view the last several years so this may be a game I like.
Gonna give it a go then. My opinions on games has been diverging from the mainstream/popular view the last several years so this may be a game I like.
Forspoken Review Codes Not Sent Out to Multiple Outlets by Square Enix
Forspoken review codes haven't been given to many outlets ahead of its release date, causing concerns over the PS5 and PC game's reviews.www.gamerevolution.com
Seems like this isn't normal practice. Calm down.
And here's what I said after someone already "clarified" what you said: "It's still a silly "conspiracy theory": that SE has such a deep relationship with games media to be able to know what kind of review score they want to massage at launch and this isn't just them being petty for previous slights."
The conspiracy, as mentioned above in the quote, is that this was a concentrated effort by SE to "massage" the review score. Because of course it was.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Yeah, that's 100% what it was. And like I replied to someone else, the whole plan backfired. This game clearly doesn't need any help getting mediocre scores from outlets.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Ohh yeah for sure, Ill be waiting a day are so before actually making the purchase.
I day one'd Calisto Protocol.......didnt get the first weapon till a week later cuz of updates and stutering.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
So many tears are flowing on Gamefaqs lol. People denying reviewers' claims that it's bad, and all the bad scores are due to racism and sexism!
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
She's half black. Not sure what you mean "she isn't even black".
Not the same engine, not the same team.
The Luminous Studio only had FFXV on its resume and uh... that's not a great resume...
I may not be into MMOs but I heard a lot of good stuff about FFXIV and the people at the helm of XIV and XVI have a better track record.
Does it mean the game will instantly be good ? No. But I'm a bit more optimistic about XVI.