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[Rockman33]

How’s the objective conversation of the number 1 seller in Hogwarts going on over there?

I don’t actually have an account setup over there and I don’t have plans on making one.

I was just trying to make a point that gaf seems to be at an all time high console warrior attitude.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I don’t actually have an account setup over there and I don’t have plans on making one.

I was just trying to make a point that gaf seems to be at an all time high console warrior attitude.

They war just as much. It's just aligned more with your taste.

 

[Rockman33]

They war just as much. It's just aligned more with your taste.

And what taste would that be?

I own a high end PC, series X, PS5 and switch. I play everywhere.

 

[DeepEnigma]

And what taste would that be?

I own a high end PC, series X, PS5 and switch. I play everywhere.

The "objective" one.

 

[TransTrender]

I look forward to the cringe.
Congrats on getting your shit barely together to make it 'playable' all these years later.
Have a DumDums

 

[ryzen1]

Wow nice.
Now they can show us some actual gameplay
...right?

 

[Ar¢tos]

Wow nice.
Now they can show us some actual gameplay
...right?

The extremely scripted trailer of her running in a straight line towards a cave with the monster, and then running back, occasionally glancing back to throw a spear is probably the extent of the gameplay.

The lines between games and interactive movies are getting very blurred nowadays.

 

[Ozriel]

I think they really screwed up by announcing this game with the Series X. Firstly, the game was obviously nowhere near finished and secondly it implied the game was a bigger game and more open than I think it will ultimately be.

Nobody thought it was near finished when it was revealed, and we already know it's bigger and more ambitious than the original.
Nothing in the reveal talked about the scope or how open the title is.

I can see this, based on what they've shown, being an indy game in terms of scope just with AAA graphics, and they really needed it to be more than that.

That description doesn't even do the first one justice at all, let alone the bigger budget sequel that's more ambitious.

I think this game might get absolutely destroyed on social media when it's revealed what it really is, and what it really isn't, because some people still think this will be Xbox's answer to God of War.

You can't be serious. Not a single person in the world thinks Hellblade 2 is "Xbox' s answer to God of War"

It's not a new IP either, so people already have a fair idea what it'll offer. None of that is like GOW

How are you wrong in pretty much every way about this game?

 

[Northeastmonk]

I remember the article about that big rendered statue or whatever from the trailer and then silence.

I wonder if they call out certain scenes during these viewings. “This is boring” or “that looks tedious as hell” or “is this a movie or a game?”

 

[coffinbirth]

What if I were to tell you it's not Hellblade 2?

 

[adamsapple]

What if I were to tell you it's not Hellblade 2?

What else would Ninja Theory be talking about.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

You can't be serious. Not a single person in the world thinks Hellblade 2 is "Xbox' s answer to God of War"

This.

Hellblade is a completely different experience in more ways than one. One can argue that there's similarities when it comes to setting (Norse mythology), but even here they're not the same. Tbh, I like the first Hellblade far more than God of War 2018, cuz it has much better paced, more interesting story and everything around it.

God of War 2018/2022 are badly paced and above average action games with terrible backtracking with frustrating, tedious and boring world exploration based on contextual actions and button presses. The first Hellblade is unique experience which I'll never forget. Can't even imagine Hellblade 2 being worse than the first one, quite the opposite actually and it's the first time NT actually making a sequel for their game.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Imagine if there's a shot from 2 hours later and they are all asleep.....

After that last trailer, I was....

Not reflective of the game, it was just a terrible choice of trailer.

 

[PnCIa]

They are one of those artsy studios that still get to call their content "game".
Or maybe they didnt get the memo yet.

 

[midnightAI]

They are one of those artsy studios that still get to call their content "game".
Or maybe they didnt get the memo yet.

Silly take, there are many types of games (thank god) and this is one of them. Just because if isn't your type if game does not make it not a 'game'.

 

[Sintoid]

Playable is a big big word, at least for what we saw until now...

 

[GHG]

The "objective" one.

The answer is always hiding in plain sight.

 

[Filben]

Their last trailer was a strange choice for "gameplay" because I found it more like an atmospheric or mood trailer, so more of a teaser, in fact.

But I reeeeally liked the first part. One of the best "walking simulators" – by that yardstick, though, we could reduce any game to single noun or noun compound, with most RPGs being scavenger hunts – I've played. Even the gameplay was good for what the game wanted to accomplish; it was straightforward and narrowed down to support the main focus: the story. No unnecessary perk system, no crafting, no increased difficulty to make the game about having a challenge. I can see why some people would be disappointed or expected... more. But with so many games blending genres and try to cramp so many mechanics into a single game this was and still is a welcome approach.

 

[nemiroff]

I think they really screwed up by announcing this game with the Series X. Firstly, the game was obviously nowhere near finished and secondly it implied the game was a bigger game and more open than I think it will ultimately be.

I can see this, based on what they've shown, being an indy game in terms of scope just with AAA graphics, and they really needed it to be more than that.

I think this game might get absolutely destroyed on social media when it's revealed what it really is, and what it really isn't, because some people still think this will be Xbox's answer to God of War.

Idk why you're making a post-launch analysis when the game hasn't.. It's like an odd strawman. I mean, been a critical follower of NT and Hellblade for a long time, and we know what the devs are trying to do with H2, because they've already told us: A refined HB with new story, better puzzles and better combat (and better graphics via UE5). It's not exactly complicated. "Xbox's answer to God of War"..? What are you talking about, no cluster of people has ever said that.

 

[Ozriel]

Playable is a big big word, at least for what we saw until now...

Yes, all they’ve made so far is the trailers and cutscenes they’ve shown you

 

[II_JumPeR_I]

I see Black Bars in that blurred screen...

 

[GymWolf]

The new ryse\the order most probably.

 

[Riky]

Another big hitter for Xbox, I'm thinking Spring 2024. If they can expand on the gameplay of the first game with a huge graphical showcase it will do fine.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

How long has this game been in development?

Probably longer than they hoped for.

Expectations have been extremely high since Xbox fans have been hyping this game to end, expecting a top-end AAA-title.
Ninja Theory isn't a AAA-studio though. None of their games have beenAAA (Heavenly Sword, Enslaved, DMC, Hellblade), but somehow people think they magically became one after the MS acquisition.

Not surprising that it takes so long. The tiny bit of gameplay they've shown so far seems to be in the same ballpark as Hellblade.
They probably need to polish it to the best of their abilities.

That's the downside of all the hype.

 

[anothertech]

Heavenly sword gameplay or gtfo

 

[nemiroff]

Yes, all they’ve made so far is the trailers and cutscenes they’ve shown you

No point in using logic to that one, they're just another plastic box warrior who wants the game to fail because it's associated with MS.

Heavenly sword gameplay or gtfo

Heavenly Sword is great for what it is, but the combat doesn't fit the Hellblade universe by any stretch of the imagination . So there's no chance in hell NT would be stupid enough to make it similar (with that said, HB's combat was atrocious, so there's no excuse not to improve it). ..But of course you knew that when posting, you're kidding no one.

 

[Ozriel]

The new ryse\the order most probably.

The original Hellblade:

81% Metacritic. 91% Very Positive reviews on Steam. Multiple awards at TGAs and won big at the BAFTAs.

And now the more ambitious, bigger budget sequel with extensive work being done on improving rough areas like the combat and puzzles is being compared to Ryse and The Order.

What a difference change of ownership brings. You wouldn’t even know it had a really well received OT here

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/hellblade-senuas-sacrifice-ot-the-mid-tier-in-limbo.1416634/

 

[M1987]

Even though I liked the first game and will be playing this,I can't see it selling well at all

 

[DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy]

I liked the first game as an AA experience for $30. Premise was interesting and the combat was good enough, if basic. The finding shapes “puzzles” were awful and replayability is nonexistent due to over-reliance on cutscenes. In a $60-70 dollar sequel I expect a better emphasis on combat and puzzles that are above walking sim tier.

I expect that but I doubt they’ll deliver anything other than the first game but like an hour longer with more cutscenes to show off the graphics.

 

[balls of snow]

Alan Wake 2 revealed and released before this game. Massive L.
Hopefully its open world.

 

[GymWolf]

The original Hellblade:

81% Metacritic. 91% Very Positive reviews on Steam. Multiple awards at TGAs and won big at the BAFTAs.

And now the more ambitious, bigger budget sequel with extensive work being done on improving rough areas like the combat and puzzles is being compared to Ryse and The Order.

What a difference change of ownership brings. You wouldn’t even know it had a really well received OT here

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/hellblade-senuas-sacrifice-ot-the-mid-tier-in-limbo.1416634/

And? A lot the people in this forum say that the order and ryse were good games that deserve a sequel.

From what they showed, it looks exactly like a tech demo with some basic gameplay here and there, maybe they should show something more than chicks doing mongoloid face expressions into a camera if they wanna change my perception...

 

[balls of snow]

everyone sat through a presentation to watch the entire game.

look i am getting over the game bloat like everyone else, but that is sounding like a 4-5 hour campaign if that tweet is anything to go by

Worked on since at least 2019.
Is 4-5 hours.
Does not compute.

 

[StueyDuck]

Worked on since at least 2019.
Is 4-5 hours.
Does not compute.

do you really think game development time is directly equal to length of the game?

go do a little research on a games called the order 1886 and duke nukem forever then we'll have a chat

 

[balls of snow]

do you really think game development time is directly equal to length of the game?

go do a little research on a games called the order 1886 and duke nukem forever then we'll have a chat

Its a ramp up to AAA and they implied its open world. Ok besides those two, any AAA that are only 5-6 hours after 5 years dev. Almost as if those are outliers.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

From the reflection on that guy's glasses you can tell it's this screen:

 

[midnightAI]

Its a ramp up to AAA and they implied its open world. Ok besides those two, any AAA that are only 5-6 hours after 5 years dev. Almost as if those are outliers.

Open world?

 

[StueyDuck]

Its a ramp up to AAA and they implied its open world. Ok besides those two, any AAA that are only 5-6 hours after 5 years dev. Almost as if those are outliers.

i think you are setting yourself up for some real disappointment.

either way how long a game is being developed has absolutely no effect on how long a game is and it's silly to insinuate that it would.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

The original Hellblade:

81% Metacritic. 91% Very Positive reviews on Steam. Multiple awards at TGAs and won big at the BAFTAs.

And now the more ambitious, bigger budget sequel with extensive work being done on improving rough areas like the combat and puzzles is being compared to Ryse and The Order.

What a difference change of ownership brings. You wouldn’t even know it had a really well received OT here

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/hellblade-senuas-sacrifice-ot-the-mid-tier-in-limbo.1416634/

First game was fresh. And yes, it was more of an experience than a game with proper gameplay. Primitive puzzles, dumb combat, linear structure. 3D sound and the overall theme of delirium and insanity carried it over the glaring flaws.

Second one lost this edge of being truly unique and NT showed nothing so far to reinforce the thought, that the title is going in different direction and will compensate in some form for lost uniqueness.

I have no problems with NT games and reallty think thta at least Project MARA will be something interesting. But look, it's pure IMO, but I don't think that Hellbalde needed a sequel in the first place. It's was a perfect one-off.

 

[supernova8]

Idk why you're making a post-launch analysis when the game hasn't.. It's like an odd strawman.

It probably will end up being a decent refined version of HB but that doesn't change the fact that it is the very first game Phil Spencer showed off at the Game Awards 2019 literally less than a minute after the very first reveal of the Series X.

Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that such circumstances might cause people to have higher-than-usual expectations than if it were just shadow-dropped or at least announced much later when they had to something to actually show.

 

[balls of snow]

Open world?

100 of miles of Iceland in 5-6 hours tops.
What a feat of engineering.

Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II Will Take Players “Hundreds of Miles Seamlessly Across Iceland”

It sounds like Hellblade II is going to be a much larger game than its predecessor. Find out how Ninja Theory is recreating Iceland!

wccftech.com

 

[Ozriel]

It probably will end up being a decent refined version of HB but that doesn't change the fact that it is the very first game Phil Spencer showed off at the Game Awards 2019 literally less than a minute after the very first reveal of the Series X.

Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that such circumstances might cause people to have higher-than-usual expectations than if it were just shadow-dropped or at least announced much later when they had to something to actually show.

But what does any of this have to do with that person’s weird claim that it’s “Xbox’s answer to God of War”?

And you say this as if a refined version of a well rated, award winning game is a bad thing.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Does it consist of a character standing still and talking for 4 hours to some imaginary figure and then the cut scene ends and that's the full game? Just kidding. Hopefully it'll be good but I have doubts.

The entire audience are pointing at the screen shouting "There! There's a triangle on that roof!"

 

[Skifi28]

I see Black Bars in that blurred screen...

At least it's not black bears, now that would be problematic.

 

[RoboFu]

I never played the original, I am not really into those types of games to be honest. Hellblade 2 is reminding me of The Order 1886. Great visuals, with 0 substances or gameplay, I hope I am wrong. Ninja Theory is a good studio, but I wish they would go back to making more arcadey games like they did in the past.

It’s more like Ryse son of Rome.

 

[El Pistolero]

Another big hitter for Xbox, I'm thinking Spring 2024. If they can expand on the gameplay of the first game with a huge graphical showcase it will do fine.

Big hitter in terms of sales, GP subscription pushing, or reviews?

 

[Deft Beck]

I expect this game to be a very pretty above-average movie game that they can bandy around at conferences and in sizzle reels. The press will write articles about the graphics and the impact of the main character's mental journey. It'll do well on Game Pass but will tank in actual sales until they drop the price to basically nothing after two years.

 

[balls of snow]

i think you are setting yourself up for some real disappointment.

either way how long a game is being developed has absolutely no effect on how long a game is and it's silly to insinuate that it would.

Nah Ninja Theory made the best dmc game and never made a bad game. They are as bulletproof as Remedy.

 

[StueyDuck]

Nah Ninja Theory made the best dmc game and never made a bad game. They are as bulletproof as Remedy.

i mean that again has nothing to do with the direct correlation between development time and game length.

but if you want to talk about that then most of their games have been 7s at best. I definitely don't hold them up that highly and I think the reason people are going all nutter butters over this game is purely cause it's exclusive.

While the first one had fun gimmicks with audio, it was arguable an average game, walk slowly, look at runes, do almost bad QTE fight, then rinse repeat. I will hold judgement on the actual game until it releases but again Gaf needs to really not go expecting the craziest 100+ hr open world adventure with Elden Ring combat and the matrix awakening demo looking visuals.

Maybe don't overhype this one would be my advice and lets wait and see, them never actually showing the game over what, 4 years now, isn't a good sign normally.

 

[Ozriel]

And? A lot the people in this forum say that the order and ryse were good games that deserve a sequel.

And yet none of those games received the critical reception of Hellblade, nor had a 37 page thread here with the majority extolling its virtues

From what they showed, it looks exactly like a tech demo with some basic gameplay here and there, maybe they should show something more than chicks doing mongoloid face expressions into a camera if they wanna change my perception...

That’s like arguing that Death Stranding 2 is likely to be a CGI movie since all they’ve shown so far is CGI trailers.

 

[Dick Jones]

I'd have rathered they stay quiet and have a surprise gameplay video shown at the Game Awards with a release date. I'm now expecting it to appear at the show dampening the surprise. Not awful, but a missed opportunity. Hopefully it's a good game.