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[HeWhoWalks]

I think some of the Cross gen titles look right up there with anything on the current. I still think Doom Eternal has the best example of Raytracing in any current gen console game.
I think Hellblade 2 will set a new standard for charter modelling and animation and hoping for GOD style massive end of boss battles , story telling should be better but then that leads to my issues with the last GOW and Hellblade They felt more like a walking talking game rather than a high end action title.

I much rather the old style GOW games and also Ninja Theory action style seen in Enslaved myself

Doom Eternal best example of raytracing this gen? No way. As examples, Wake 2, Spidey 2, Cyberpunk easily top it. Clearly more, and better, calculations going on.

Character modeling? Senua may, but she also has to contest with Death Stranding 2, at the very least. Going to be a tough one. That considered, I thought she was the best character model of 2017, so maybe. But only her. The whole game may not receive that treatment, which will make it feel inconsistent.

As for the old vs the new — God of War needed the change.

 

[mckmas8808]

You're missing the full price part, apparently...somehow.

Well then buy The Order 1886 on sale. People were killing the game mostly at the time. Not that it was full price. People were even mad that the have had letterboxing in it. But here we are............Hellblade 2 will also be letterboxed. The irony.

Ninja Theory had a weird approach to the development of that game: "Achieving AAA production levels with a small budget" they were open about their process; making devlogs talking about the challenges that they were facing and what solutions they were implementing to keep costs down.

RAD was being hyped as the next Naughty Dogs.

NO THEY WERE NOT! ND made Jak and Daxter, Uncharted and The Last of Us by time The Order came out.

 

[DaGwaphics]

No game is "the most important exclusive".

On top of that, this franchise is somewhat niche to begin with. I do think it will be a visual treat in a dark and moody kind of way.

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

Riddle me this:
What is always coming but never arrives?

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Riddle me this:
What is always coming but never arrives?

You'd be surprised how many people don't get this one.

 

[GeoramA]

Pinning all your hopes on Bethesda didn't work out, so now you turn to Ninja Theory? Good luck with that...

 

[mckmas8808]

Senua was made on a tiny budget and to help save the company.

I fully expect Senua to equal and surpass God Of War for graphics and storytelling. For me Fable is more of the next big exclusive and will show if XBox handle handle an update to a classic IP and also how it grew a studio internally after the buyout and the game that will be the graphical showcase for the Series X

Bro.......the gameplay in the modern God of War is some of the best in the industry. How you view it as only a graphics and storytelling thing is INSANE!

Do you think it's any percent possible that Hellblade 2 will have anything half as gameplay heavy as this?

 

[Lionel Richie]

Riddle me this:
What is always coming but never arrives?

Your mother.

 

[adamsapple]

Riddle me this:
What is always coming but never arrives?

The second showcase?

 

[TheTony316]

This again? Wasn't Starfield supposed to be that game or Halo infinite before it? We get Xbox articles like this every single year since 2012 and nothing changes. Just let the game release and we'll see how it is.

 

[DenchDeckard]

For reference

2023 Preview: Starfield is the biggest Xbox exclusive in a decade | VGC

Bethesda’s huge RPG is the game fans – and Game Pass – has been desperately waiting for…

www.videogameschronicle.com

This is the shit I'm talking about. Then it releases and it's fine to good and "journalists" scream....

"But it was so hyped"

Yeah? By you ya dumb fucks

 

[DeepEnigma]

I thought Starfield was.

 

[diffusionx]

I agree with all this, however I do hope this is Ninja Theory’s Returnal moment. A small/mediocre team like Housemarque finally makes something great after proper funding. But I have my doubts. We’ll see.

When was Housemarque mediocre? Their games have great gameplay and are often technical showcases. Returnal was basically an expansion of all the things they do as opposed to some sort of reinvention.

 

[mckmas8808]

This is the shit I'm talking about. Then it releases and it's fine to good and "journalists" scream....

"But it was so hyped"

Yeah? By you ya dumb fucks

100% agree with you here!

 

[SHA]

2024 Preview: Hellblade 2 could be Xbox’s most important exclusive | VGC

For Microsoft, all eyes (and ears) will be on Ninja Theory in 2024…

www.videogameschronicle.com

This is the most hyped game ever
The hype around Hellblade 2 is massive and growing

You are Japanese and like xbox, fascinating!

 

[SHA]

Caps steals our calm.

 

[Del_X]

I don’t think this game will appeal to a wide enough audience. I’m 100% down for it but this game will likely eat up all my patience for slow walking and talking narrative “experience” types for the year.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

When was Housemarque mediocre? Their games have great gameplay and are often technical showcases. Returnal was basically an expansion of all the things they do as opposed to some sort of reinvention.

That’s why I added “small”. Nothing they did was close to Returnal. It was a giant leap for them. Which I hope happens with Ninja Theory.

 

[Thirty7ven]

This is the shit I'm talking about. Then it releases and it's fine to good and "journalists" scream....

"But it was so hyped"

Yeah? By you ya dumb fucks

Right it was the dumb fucks that went on stage in front of millions watching and said Starfield was one of the most important RPGs ever.

 

[mejin]

That gameplay trailer raised some concerns. More like Ryse 2.0.

 

[FrankWza]

 

[TheKratos]

It's in capslock so must be true.

 

[proandrad]

Most gamers have never even heard of Hellblade.

 

[DenchDeckard]

This is going to end badly....

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Same shit different game.

 

[mckmas8808]

This is going to end badly....

Bookmark this comment, because DenchDeckard is right. This game doesn't need to be overhyped. It's not that type of game.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Bookmark this comment, because DenchDeckard is right. This game doesn't need to be overhyped. It's not that type of game.

Walky-talky 3rd person graphical story adventure movie games are all the rage now!

 

[adamsapple]

Walky-talky 3rd person graphical story adventure movie games are all the rage now!

Just needs a side kick to tell you puzzle solutions, and we're golden.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Just needs a side kick to tell you puzzle solutions, and we're golden.

The sidekick is in her own head.

 

[adamsapple]

The sidekick is in her own head.

What did you say? Timmy fell in the well?

 

[Crayon]

Don't project a pattern of media building up the game to tear it down from this one article and one thread laughing at it. It's paranoid.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

I don't know about that, but it is the game I am most hyped on the platform since Halo 3. It looks to be a proper AAA with technology and a narrative gameplay to back it up. If it turns out great I'll consider upgrading my GPU just to play it.

 

[hinch7]

Agreed, at least I doubt it will be anything this gen.

The only way to disrupt Sony in my opinion is to start next gen with such a bang that it may persuade people to get XBox over PlayStation. To do that they would have to announce early and have loads of must have games right out the gate with promise (with proof somehow as Microsoft's promises of games currently don't hold much weight) of many more games every year.

Of course the chances of them doing the above are slim, they are more likely to just keep doing what they are doing and hope people change.

Yep and it will take some really big exclusives at this point (not Hellblade). Plus new hardware to spur interest into Xbox WW.

I can see a few announced Xbox titles pushed back to next generation and maybe a 1-2 launch titles for it. Rumors that MS will jump start the next generation early. Which makes sense seeing as GTA VI is coming next year and they could have a console that's significantly more powerful than PS5 and refresh.. and have games ready/built for it well ahead of the curve. Will be a massive hill to climb though for MS and Xbox though.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

For me, it's a matter of price at release. The Order 1886 came out at $60 for 5 hours of gameplay. Hellblade came out at $30 for about 10 hours of gameplay. Had The Order been a budget priced title, I think a lot of the blow back would have not happened.

This is unfortunately true, even I as big a fan of the game as I am, didn't pay full price for it.

If they had priced it more like Hellblade who knows and it's too bad they didn't.

 

[Fabieter]

They need to stop hype those exclusives and let them try meet some reasonable expectations and they might suprise us. It will be the next disappointments if we are doing it again.

 

[thismeinteil]

Yea, let's not do this to yourselves, again, Xbox fans.

Let's also not pretend it was just the media hyping these games to no end. We have plenty of posts and threads in this forum that prove otherwise. The 1-2 punch of Redfall and GOTG, Starfield, (and I guess we can add in the Activision purchase) was supposed to be Xbox's big comeback. Instead it led to lower sales than last year and fire sales to get rid of excess HW.

 

[Chittagong]

It’s going to be a stunning game with mediocre gameplay, kinda like Microsoft’s version of Order, or Plague Tale. I love games like that, but it won’t being players to the platform.

 

[Arsic]

Nope. Starfield was that game.

The ship has sailed.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

We just got done with Starfield and we're already on the next game of the Xbox Cycle™?

I can't wait for the 9,467 threads about it on GAF made by usual shills followed by tweets about record engagement, 8/10 reviews, and Steam at 66% positive a month later!

 

[GigaBowser]

hellblade has no gameplay its all true Im sorry my friends

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

I thought they said Starfield was their most important game?

 

[Team Andromeda]

Bro.......the gameplay in the modern God of War is some of the best in the industry. How you view it as only a graphics and storytelling thing is INSANE!

Do you think it's any percent possible that Hellblade 2 will have anything half as gameplay heavy as this?

I much rather the combat in the earllier od Of War games myself ..And I'm sure Hellblade 2 with have a battle with 1 enemy on screen *rollseyes*

 

[Team Andromeda]

Doom Eternal best example of raytracing this gen? No way. As examples, Wake 2, Spidey 2, Cyberpunk easily top it. Clearly more, and better, calculations going on.

Character modeling? Senua may, but she also has to contest with Death Stranding 2, at the very least. Going to be a tough one. That considered, I thought she was the best character model of 2017, so maybe. But only her. The whole game may not receive that treatment, which will make it feel inconsistent.

As for the old vs the new — God of War needed the change.

Im talking console gaming and for me Doom has the best ray trying I've seen in a console game. No seen much of Death Stranding 2 so that's open to question at the moment.

 

[kyussman]

Game that is barely a game is most important game.....I don't think so,lol.

 

[GHG]

We just got done with Starfield and we're already on the next game of the Xbox Cycle™?

I can't wait for the 9,467 threads about it on GAF made by usual shills followed by tweets about record engagement, 8/10 reviews, and Steam at 66% positive a month later!

These cycles are more exciting than the games themselves.

 

[Ar¢tos]

How hard is it for Xbox/Xbox community to let the quality of a product speak for itself instead doing this incessant overhyping over and over?
The more you hype something the more critical people are going to be when it releases.
It's like they never learn.

 

[Orbital2060]

How hard is it for Xbox/Xbox community to let the quality of a product speak for itself instead doing this incessant overhyping over and over?
The more you hype something the more critical people are going to be when it releases.
It's like they never learn.

Its an article on a website.

We just got done with Starfield and we're already on the next game of the Xbox Cycle™?

I can't wait for the 9,467 threads about it on GAF made by usual shills followed by tweets about record engagement, 8/10 reviews, and Steam at 66% positive a month later!

These cycles are more exciting than the games themselves.

You guys getting ready to review bomb another xbox game?

Bet you cant sleep at night out of sheer excitement.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Its an article on a website.




You guys getting ready to review bomb another xbox game?

Bet you cant sleep at night out of sheer excitement.

Guess what?
Most of Starfield hyping came from.... articles on websites!...
The rest came directly from Xbox/Bugthesda.

 

[nowhat]

Guess what?
Most of Starfield hyping came from.... articles on websites!...
The rest came directly from Xbox/Bugthesda.

I'm pretty sure I saw some massive hype in here in Gaf as well. And it was growing.

 

[Ar¢tos]

I'm pretty sure I saw some massive hype in here in Gaf as well. And it was growing.

I saw plenty of Astroturfing here in GAF, real honest hype, there wasn't much, and it dimished with every new showing of the game.