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Insomniac on the release of Spider-Man 2: The disc contains the entire game and is playable from start to finish with no patch or online requirement

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
Did anyone read this announcement? It does not match thread title.

"But for the best experience, we highly encourage physical/disc based players to download patch blah blah blah"

How is this different to any game that has been released in last 10 years?
That is not considered a requirement to play and finish the game.

Did you read the announcement and thread title?

Playable from start to finish on disc but not the way they intended it to be played...





I bought the digital deluxe version so doesn't impact me, but once again it seems like physical folks will have less than the full experience in the version on disc. I guess with how complex games are even the best studios struggle sometimes.

Significant polish does not equal not the full experience.

Yall are trying waaaay too hard.
 
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brian0057

Banned
With how cheap flash memory is these days, I'm amazed that Nintendo is the only one that resurrected the cartridge.
It's just makes so much more sense than a disc. Flash drives can hold insane amounts of data and are incredibly small.
The fact that it hasn't become the new standard for physical media is depressing.
 
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EDMIX

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Some developers could never
 

killatopak

Gold Member
With how cheap flash memory is these days, I'm amazed that Nintendo is the only one that resurrected the cartridge.
It's just makes so much more sense than a disc. Flash drives can hold insane amounts of data and are incredibly small.
The fact that it hasn't become the new standard for physical media is depressing.
Dunno if it’s so cheap if Nintendo themselves avoid 32gb and 64gb cartridges like the plague.
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?

ReBurn

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Significant polish does not equal not the full experience.

Yall are trying waaaay too hard.
Do you even know what significant polish means in this case? Because there's not really any context there. The director of community and marketing at Insomniac literally says that you need to patch the version on the disc to play the game the way Insomniac intended in response to the tweet, which is saying to me that the experience you get on the disc isn't exactly what they wanted to ship.

This means that In context of his tweets, this message from Insomniac can be seen as them trying to get ahead of any criticism regarding the day 1 patch more than it is affirmation that the game is perfect as-is on disc and doesn't need updates that people are taking it as. They should have told the marketing guy to STFU and stay off of Twitter because he's ruining the vibe.
 

zombrex

Member
People should learn to read between the lines.
The fact they are putting this info out means there are some problems with the game on the disc, they could be minor performance issues and glitches or could be worse. They are emphasising you need the patch for the best experience. Sure, you may be able to finish the game from start to finish but some of the issues may be embarassing to the dev which is why they trying to get ahead of bad press with this patch announcment. They are not saying this to promote you can play the game from start to finish without a patch which some clearly seem to think.
 
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People should learn to read between the lines.
The fact they are putting this info out means there are some problems with the game on the disc, they could be minor performancee and glitches or could be worse. They are emphasising you need the patch for the best experience. Sure, you may be able to finish the game from start to finish but some of the issues may be embarassing to the dev which is why they trying to get ahead of bad press this with the patch announcment. They are not saying this to promote you can play the game from start to finish without a patch which some clearly seem to think.

Well they are also not saying the game is broken without the patch. Very possible that it's still in a great state even without the patch. And that's something that can be proven sooner or later.
 

Kusarigama

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I appreciate Insomniac and Sony for delivering a complete disc version of the game. Other developers and publishers need to take note. I am tired of having premium full priced games releasing in broken states. The most eager fans who are there to buy your product day 1 get the worst version of the game and gradually it gets fixed. Please respect the day 1 customers and all customers in general too.
 

Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable
So "there's a day 1 patch" ?

Enjoy your celebrations, I guess.

I wonder how many games aren't playable with the disc only, I know there are high profile examples like COD, but AFAIK the majority of games play from the disc if you disconnect the internet so consoles don't check to see if there's a version number. Is that incorrect?
 
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supernova8

Banned
This generation is so lame that we now have Insomniac saying they put the full game on the disc as if that wasn't already expected (if not always fulfilled in this day and age).

Bryan Cranston Reaction GIF
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
Do you even know what significant polish means in this case? Because there's not really any context there. The director of community and marketing at Insomniac literally says that you need to patch the version on the disc to play the game the way Insomniac intended in response to the tweet, which is saying to me that the experience you get on the disc isn't exactly what they wanted to ship.

This means that In context of his tweets, this message from Insomniac can be seen as them trying to get ahead of any criticism regarding the day 1 patch more than it is affirmation that the game is perfect as-is on disc and doesn't need updates that people are taking it as. They should have told the marketing guy to STFU and stay off of Twitter because he's ruining the vibe.
This is your post:

Playable from start to finish on disc but not the way they intended it to be played...





I bought the digital deluxe version so doesn't impact me, but once again it seems like physical folks will have less than the full experience in the version on disc. I guess with how complex games are even the best studios struggle sometimes.


What does the initial tweet say?

"the entire game is playable from start to finish."

Again, trying waaay to hard.
 
Small and little things like this adds up
Insomniac Is the best developer this gen with 0 competition
I don't think a single studio has released 2 games this gen insomniac has done 4 already and now wolverine will be there fifth
+ the polish and qol small things like this and 30 60 unluck FPS modes just makes this studio untouchable especially this generation
 

Hardensoul

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Playable from start to finish on disc but not the way they intended it to be played...





I bought the digital deluxe version so doesn't impact me, but once again it seems like physical folks will have less than the full experience in the version on disc. I guess with how complex games are even the best studios struggle sometimes.

Even if you buy physical disc you still need to install to the fast SSD. Disc reading is still slow!
 
So just like Hogwarts Legacy?
No?

Don't see how there's anything misleading with my OP -- The day one version of SM2 is complete on the disc, and Insomniac even made additional improvements since the game went gold (e.g the build that's printed on the disc), and you can get those if your Internet connection allows. If not, you've still got the full, finished game on the disc that plays just fine from start to finish. That said, there will always be optional day 1 patches for such big releases since devs continue working on games post launch, like it was the case with FFXVI which was complete on disc too.

And yes, there have been 2 big releases this year with Hogwarts Legacy and Jedi Survivor that require mandatory download to play past the intro/tutorial area.
 
Yes? Spiderman requires a day one patch. After that its offline. Just like Hogwarts. It doesnt require an internet connection TO PLAY.
It just requires it to download what didnt fit on the disc. That's pretty comparable.

If we were talking about say: GTA5 story, Gran Turismo etc, they all require an internet connection to even save.
THATS a different story.

HL and SM2 have the same basic setup: Install (with a day one patch or rest of content download), rip out your ethernet cable and all functionality is there.
Same, but different, but same.
 
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Yes? Spiderman requires a day one patch. After that its offline. Just like Hogwarts. It doesnt require an internet connection TO PLAY.
It just requires it to download what didnt fit on the disc. That's pretty comparable.
Dude re-read my reply smh. It's all on disc and can be played from start to finish without any mandatory update/download. You can't do that with Hogwarts Legacy or Jedi Survivor.

And yes, there have been 2 big releases this year with Hogwarts Legacy and Jedi Survivor that require mandatory download to play past the intro/tutorial area.

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Fbh

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This generation is so lame that we now have Insomniac saying they put the full game on the disc as if that wasn't already expected (if not always fulfilled in this day and age).

Bryan Cranston Reaction GIF

Most seem to be exaggerating about this message.
To me it doesn't read like insomniac making an announcement about the full game being on the disc.
It's more like a message from Insomniac strongly recommending people to download the day 1 patch, but getting ahead of questions and complains by adding a line reassuring people there's a complete and fully playable version of the game on the disc
 
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EverydayBeast

thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Congratulations Insomniac, love them to death. Spider-Man has that super hero energy, of course Xbox fanboys criticize the game.
 

acm2000

Member
Do you have anything relevant to add to this thread or are you going to continue to show just how much this game bothers you because you cannot play it, apparently?
i mean you are the one talking about it over and over, theres a ps5 upstairs if i want to play it
 
I think MonkeyClaw36 MonkeyClaw36 meant the tutorial counts as being able to play the game.
I mean yes, both games are technically playable, but it's not comparable at all or at best it's a flawed comparison since one it's playable from start to finish while the other only in the tutorial area. Why even make it in the first place? Seems very weird and I want to think my OP was pretty clear on what you get by buying the disc version of Spider-Man 2.
 
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sn0man

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Most physical GOTY edition i buy come with all DLC or expansions on the disk. Whats the point of launching a physical GOTY edition, if the content on disk is the same as the normal and cheaper normal editon?

Polyphony did a re-release of GT Sport after some updates and they included 1 extra blu-ray to include all the extra content that was added to the game.
Does that GT Sport version rerelease have some single player to it and a split screen? Does it work offline to let you save the game?

If so I may have to source it. Would be nice to have an old school single player offline saving GT game again.
 

Aenima

Member
Does that GT Sport version rerelease have some single player to it and a split screen? Does it work offline to let you save the game?

If so I may have to source it. Would be nice to have an old school single player offline saving GT game again.
Yes GT Sport has a very long single player campaign. (100h+)
I dont remember if has split screen, GT7 has, but i thing GT Sport dont.
You still need an online conection to save the game as the game save in polyphony servers, but they are going to shut down the online content next year but ppl can still play and progress in single player content after that, so dunno if they will patch the game to save locally or keep requiring an internet conection for saves.
 
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