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Person of Interest |OT| Michael Emerson plays a mysterious dude

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SpeedingUptoStop

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Linkzg said:
this show could be awesome but it feels designed and edited to confuse. important facts are muttered quietly, he does something and something happen and I don't know what either something was.

otherwise, it's like Wanted + Batman
Yea, I dunno if it's the pilot just being cheap or them having to change things in post or what, but it's got a distinct issue there.

I'll say though, this plot just ratcheted up a notch.
 

exarkun

Member
Tamanon said:
So how many episodes until the main character becomes an "irrelevant number"? I say midseason.

He would have to be a relevant number from the very beginning because he is a violent force in the system, so his number would probably keep coming up.

I really liked the last 25 mins. Id say I liked the episode alot, not loved it. Can see a lot of potential once it get really gets going.
 

SpeedingUptoStop

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Went from good to pretty good when the exposition dissipated in the second half.


Issues: Jim Cavaziel needs to kind of wake up and the direction needs to get more coherent. Could be something neat week to week.
 

Veidt

Blasphemer who refuses to accept bagged milk as his personal savior
ErasureAcer said:
September 22, 2004: LOST
September 22, 2011: Person of Interest
September 23, 2011: FRINGE
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I know it doesn't make any sense. Just gotta role with it man. Roll with it..
 

WillyFive

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Seems like another procedural to me, except with mystery elements (that were explained before the first episode was over).
 
I liked it. The cast is pretty awesome, and I think they can do some neat things with it. It's set up so that it can be a procedural, but it can also turn into a mythology show if it wants to go in that direction (a la Fringe).

I'd place my bets that if there's a season long arc, it's going to be that a "relevant" threat somehow accidentally gets lumped into "irrelevant" and Batman and Alfred (I don't know which is better, this, or Ben and Jesus) have to figure out the plot and stop it before the world ends.
 
You shouldn't use Massive Attack's "Angel" on such an ill-fitting scene. That was lame. I was expecting some crazy shit to go down there.

Anyways it has the makings of a kind of interesting show to watch on a lazy day but that's about it. I don't see this going above that at all. I'll probably watch next episode.
 

big ander

Member
Caviezel is seriously sleep walking or something. The writing was mediocre. And the show looked bad and shot everything weird. We had to leave the building before that one guy got shot? Really?
But Emerson was good as expected and the premise is still pretty great.
Looks like the kind of procedural that I might watch on a Saturday morning while being lazy.
 
Emerson was sleepwalking through his role too dude. Both characters feel like blank slates.

Hopefully they open up more in the future.
 

ivysaur12

Banned
Just started on the west coast.

Some awful, awful non-opening credits. Just give me 10 seconds. Or something. They also needed to reshoot some of Caviezel's scenes, and some of the internal logic just doesn't make sense. Also, some terrible exposition from Caviezel. Plus, some, uhh... "interesting" pacing.

Some really nice set pieces, though. And Emerson's great.
 
Weird opening episode. I don't especially like Caviezal (?)'s character that much. The whole thing gives me major "Early Edition" vibes.
 
Just finished it. Asides from the expositional clunkiness all pilots are prone too, I loved it. I dig the two leads and I love the concept of the show. The leg shooting was awesomely hilarious. Interesting themes in the 'Constantly Watched' angle.

And yeah, I'm curious what will happen when Reese and Finch become 'Relevant'. I do hope they build a little bigger mythology and it's not just 'Case of the Week'. But anyways, I'm in. Really enjoyed the show.
 

ivysaur12

Banned
The Big Rig said:
Weird opening episode. I don't especially like Caviezal (?)'s character that much. The whole thing gives me major "Early Edition" vibes.

Some really, really oddly paced moments. I thought there's a ton of potential and we'll see where they go from here, I guess. There are too many holes in the idea of Person of Interest for me.

But I think A Gifted Man is actually a much better CBS pilot.
 

Dead Man

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ivysaur12 said:
Just started on the west coast.

Some awful, awful non-opening credits. Just give me 10 seconds. Or something. They also needed to reshoot some of Caviezel's scenes, and some of the internal logic just doesn't make sense. Also, some terrible exposition from Caviezel. Plus, some, uhh... "interesting" pacing.

Some really nice set pieces, though. And Emerson's great.
I apologise, but I am going to use you as an example. What does the bolded mean when referring to a TV show? I understand in the context of interactive media like games when it refers to a large, scripted scene where the player still has control, but what does it mean in the context of a TV show?
 

ivysaur12

Banned
Dead Man said:
I apologise, but I am going to use you as an example. What does the bolded mean when referring to a TV show? I understand in the context of interactive media like games when it refers to a large, scripted scene where the player still has control, but what does it mean in the context of a TV show?

Every single TV series reuses about four or five sets that they keep in a soundstage - it keeps the prices down and most of the show is filmed in these sets. These sets (and their decorations) can be described as "set pieces."

Some, like the coffee shop in Friends, are iconic. Then there's Mad Men: the set pieces there are meticulous to detail and are lavish in their attempt to recreate a 1960s fantasy. In a poorer example, The Playboy Club has rather stale sets that don't really separate it from any old room on a soundstage. It's bland and not visually striking.

For Person of Interest, I was genuinely impressed with the old-library set where it seems Jesse and Finch will be doing most of their work. It's a look that's underutilized. It reminds me a lot of library from Se7en.
 

Dead Man

Member
ivysaur12 said:
Every single TV series reuses about four or five sets that they keep in a soundstage - it keeps the prices down and most of the show is filmed in these sets. These sets (and their decorations) can be described as "set pieces."

Some, like the coffee shop in Friends, are iconic. Then there's Mad Men: the set pieces there are meticulous to detail and are lavish in their attempt to recreate a 1960s fantasy. In a poorer example, The Playboy Club has rather stale sets that don't really separate it from any old room on a soundstage. It's bland and not visually striking.

For Person of Interest, I was genuinely impressed with the old-library set where it seems Jesse and Finch will be doing most of their work. It's a look that's underutilized. It reminds me a lot of library from Se7en.
Ah, thanks for the explanation. Makes much more sense now!
 

cory.

Banned
I liked it, didn't love it. Thursday is the only night where I don't have an hour-long show, so this doesn't really seem like it's too much on top of everything else. I'll keep watching.
 
I have to say I really don't like the main actor - Jim Caviezel. I liked him in some films a few years back, but he really gives of the feeling that he does not like that he has now 'moved down,' in his mind, to a TV show. I realize he is supposed to be playing a character which has unwittingly come back into the fold to help people, and as such should portray a character that is somewhat cold to others, but in the pilot he was just lifeless - especially next to Emerson.

I liked the pilot, but in every scene I could not help but feel anyone but him would have made the show better. A female protagonist - like Eliza Dushku (even though she is hated by some) - probably would have filled that role better.

Anyways, it is a good show. Right up there with Revenge as the best of the bunh of debuts this week. I just hope Caviezel gives Reese more of a personality with his future performances.
 

Drakken

Member
Watched it on a whim cause I saw Nolan's name on the commercial and the Early Edition-like premise sounded intriguing. I thought it was OK, but not as good as I had hoped. I'll probably give it a try for a couple more episodes.
 

Xater

Member
xbhaskarx said:
I thought it was very ordinary television, one episode is enough for me.

Yeah it was incredibly average. The machine stuff was absolutely stupid and it all just seems to be setup to be another procedural on CBS. I think I will give it two more episodes to see if it will be anything more than that, but if not I will not watch.
 

mm04

Member
I liked it. I wasn't quite sure I'd like Caviezel in this role, but as it went on, I liked him more. I especially like how it's obvious he typically operates outside of the law, like when he went to obtain the firepower. Obviously, it's only a pilot and quality could go either way going forward, but I enjoyed it enough that it's definitely on my watch list.
 
I thought it was ok....but its a CBS show, so we're going to be getting the same episode for 8 years + rape.

And the whole plot is almost exactly what Tru Calling was.
 

Munin

Member
ivysaur12 said:
Every single TV series reuses about four or five sets that they keep in a soundstage - it keeps the prices down and most of the show is filmed in these sets. These sets (and their decorations) can be described as "set pieces."

Some, like the coffee shop in Friends, are iconic. Then there's Mad Men: the set pieces there are meticulous to detail and are lavish in their attempt to recreate a 1960s fantasy. In a poorer example, The Playboy Club has rather stale sets that don't really separate it from any old room on a soundstage. It's bland and not visually striking.

For Person of Interest, I was genuinely impressed with the old-library set where it seems Jesse and Finch will be doing most of their work. It's a look that's underutilized. It reminds me a lot of library from Se7en.

Don't mean to be pedantic, but this is incorrect. What you mean is just "sets" or "production design". The term "set piece" defines certain elaborately set up scenes or a sequence of scenes set in a specific location which intend to serve as a emotional high point in a film or episode and have (in comparison to the rest of the film) an especially big part of the budget and/or production resources poured into them. Or more simply put something like the "big central sequences" in Hollywood movies.

Mostly the term is only used by academics and film critics though, so doesn't really matter.
 
Wow this was aggressively mediocre. There wasn't a single line of dialogue that wasn't blatant exposition of a case I don't care about and cliched tough guy posturing. I'd say Caveziel and Emerson were bland as fuck but the script didn't give them a choice. I loved the part where he goes "She's a prosecutor; there could be hundreds of people who have a problem with her, but in a few hours and with no help I've narrowed it down to 2, a creepy ex who's probably not the problem and a gang member on trial who's probably the problem, because there's going to be a third-act reversal where the gang member's a red herring and the creepy ex is the problem. Because I know have incredibly detailed dossiers on every single person involved except for the information that would let me solve this case."

Won't bother watching more, it's clearly yet another bland procedural.

Props to using Massive Attack's Angel though. Makes any scene more badass.
 
It definitely got better as it went on, but nothing spectacular. I will give it a few episodes to improve.

Why does Jesus have that gravelly Batman voice?
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
So the premise itself was boring, but Jesus reminds me so much of Neeson in Taken that I'll probably stick around just to watch him wreck people.
 

Tom_Cody

Member
I loved the pilot. I really expected more positive reactions from GAF.

What can I say, I like the basic premise- taking the techniques our intelligence agencies have developed since 9/11 to fight terrorism and applying them at home to fight crime.

I loved Jim Caviezel in this. Admittedly I've been a bit of a fanboy since his version of the Prisoner, but I really think he deserves props. His constant pensive, melancholic stare is perfect for this character and this character is exactly what the premise of the show needs.

Michael Emerson did a good job in a very simplistically written role. He almost seems to be winking at the audience when describing the numbers "just don't ask too many questions, ok". That said, he and Jim Caviezel make for an appealing crime fighting duo. With so much of the show being their voices played over surveillance visuals, it really speaks well for him that those scenes work as well they do.

I had never seen Taraji P. Henson in anything before but she really beamed off the screen here. It's sort of a shame that she had to take a TV show but she is a welcome presence. Like everyone, I will be curious to see if a greater story develops beyond the weekly crime fighting and, on that point, I hope they give her interesting things to do as the show goes on.


+Hobo jesus
+Fight scenes
+Perfect casting. Even the peripheral roles gave great performances.
+Gorgeous NYC location filming. As an NYC resident, it's nice to see something that really felt like it was set here.
+-Leg shots?!
-Shows like this live or die by their weekly writing and the case in the pilot was pretty flat. I can forgive them for now since this episode set up the characters and the premise, but I know I will lose interest quickly if they don't provide more interesting crime solving week-to-week.


Hobo Jesus was incredible. What a great character introduction. I want tattoo Hobo Jesus onto my body.
 
I'll give it another few episodes, but it didn't do much for me. The premise seems unabashedly silly, but I suppose most shows are, objectively, silly.

Acting was rather flat, too.

However, being a glass half-full kinda fellow, I'll remain onboard.
 
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