hemo memo
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Is this independent Youtube production?
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Is this independent Youtube production?
Fake
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GymWolf
Member
This one gave us some memes, cowboy doesn't even do that...
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Kev Kev
Member
best show ever! <3
Javthusiast
Banned
At least Yu Yu Hakusho is I believe being done by a japanese studio who does Alice in Borderland live action, so it might be not as bad as this or One Piece from the same studio as Beflop.
Keihart
Member
I do wonder what was Netflix thinking by giving a really beloved IP like cowboy bebop to such an amateur directing team and then pikachu face when it wasn't all that good.
It's weird how faithfull it tries to be to the anime while changing so many things that make no sense to change and keeping some intact that could've of been a really good oportunity for creativity in adapting them.
They went full japanese live action and then backtracked in all the wrong things, marvelous.
As someone who really likes the "tomboy" archetype, changing Faye from a feme fatale to a tomboy made so little fucking sense, so many of the adventures lean on her being one.
It's weird how faithfull it tries to be to the anime while changing so many things that make no sense to change and keeping some intact that could've of been a really good oportunity for creativity in adapting them.
They went full japanese live action and then backtracked in all the wrong things, marvelous.
As someone who really likes the "tomboy" archetype, changing Faye from a feme fatale to a tomboy made so little fucking sense, so many of the adventures lean on her being one.
Yeah disagree lol. Not even close. What exactly have you watched on hbo?
Netflix and all the other streaming services are just throwing shit at the wall full tilt. They just need CONTENT to feed subscribers, the actual quality is tertiary at best, after speed of production and costs. So they are hunting for IPs with some recognition to bait subscribers.
Talent is spread FAR too thin these days. Good writers, producers, and directors used to be concentrated in just a few studios. But now it is all over the place, 'talent' like J.J. Abrams has a dozen projects going all at once, the entertainment streaming execs have little experience in some of these areas. Bowing to the 4-quadrant algorithm doesn't help either, as it dictates going in story directions that may not be organic to the project, making casting decisions to the detriment of the project, and hiring crew more for the social media points than their experience.
Some of these projects hit hard and led to great new vistas, but most just fizzle. Then again, even in the old days of the "white cis-het boys club" most stuff fizzled. But, IMHO, the stuff getting churned out now has almost ZERO replay value. No one is gonna be mining the Netflix back catalogue for syndication, there will never be a "Netflix at night" retro/vintage channel, because the core quality just isn't there. It's all flash and smoke. Stuff more than a month old are condemned to being 50-100 in a list of "what to watch next!".
Keihart
Member
what have you watched in HBO? You know, like something that has real transitions, framing and use of color like actual good movies? all i see , even on good shows is either heavy color correcting, cheap lighting and close to 0 interesting framing and transitions.
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TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
We'll have an iconic character from the anime appear at the end of the season to really give that stinger that will hook them for the next season! Oh my God, they're gonna love this! We'll be printing money!
Said an exec that is probably hitting his wife in a bourbon and Xanax induced episode of psychosis right now.
SPIIIIIIUGHHHHHHKE SPEAGGGGULLLL
"THIS IS WHAT THE KIDS LIKE, ISN'T IT TONYA?!"
"Yes, Chase, yes, just please stop, I think it's the best show ever, let's sit down and watch it together, okay?"
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
They had to have known Ed was going to be a disaster. Right? They can't have filmed that and thought it was good shit?
LoneWolf&Subs
Neo Member
Ah, yes, the “Because it was camp” argument. Bullshit…
kunonabi
Member
The writing staff undoubtedly thought it was amazing. The rest of the crew were probably rethinking their career choices.
CGiRanger
Banned
Again, just go look up the writers/showrunners and find their twitter profiles/timelines. That'll tell you all you need to know.
But when they started shitting on the fans, you knew how this would turn out. It's like they never learn, or more likely their unbridled narcissism makes them totally blind to how they come across outside of their bubbles, and they of course think they know better.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Actually now that I think about it...Does Netflix really have high production value series? Out of all streaming services, I don't particularly remember any really huge one. I don't actually even heard about any big fantasy / sci-fi series on Netflix either...It is usually HBO, Paramount, Disney?
The problem is that the original anime did not shove it into your throat. There was nothing vulgar with Gren (unlike Netflix ediition where they made him into a freak) as the example. Or that Ed oof (it should not have been translated directly at all). This live action series was following all the modern american tropes - daddy issues, toxic masculinity, daddy issues, parenting, strong and independent women and so on. Original was not even that much of a comedy but basically a drama with broken people living in the hard world where life goes on even after all the events.
American media these days is too much in your face to a point of being vulgar.
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Yoda
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Only watched a few bits of it, won't bother finishing.. The casting was extremely off imo, this was a big nono for a show like Cowboy Bepop which wasn't really known for its grand narrative. Spike in particular was the strangest casting decision of them all. The anime has a young, charismatic, tall to the point of lanky, white guy. Netflix Spike also felt quite stiff, which further detracted from the character anyone who'd seen the anime was expecting.
strange headache
Banned
Has it ever occurred to you that woke writers write woke scripts?
They don't know what makes the original material great, they don't respect it, don't know how people really function, they suck at portraying human interaction and only care about injecting their own ideological views.
Hence why this adaptation frikkin' sucks.
The original show was diverse, but in an organic way. Not like this crappy forced mess that's actually a step back.
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Northeastmonk
Gold Member
This means that if they ever make a live action Akira, that it’s going to suck big time.
Thaedolus
Gold Member
I think we’re actually in about 95% agreement
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Javthusiast
Banned
Yep the very last thing they go out on. Fits perfectly for Cowboy Beflop.
Kabelly
Member
fucking yikes.
Tams
Member
These days... I don't know. I think they may well have actually thought it good. Perhaps an exec who's been to one too many anime conventions too.
Well, the author has 'anus' in their name.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
Not on this scale. A handfuls of studios financed a handful of projects a year and usually got with proven talent first. The reason why Copolla, Spielberg, Bay, Cameron, etc dominated the market for decades. Along with them a group of proven executives, producers, writers etc.
No one would have HE-MAN be killed in the first episode of a new show and put a gay woman bodybuilder in his place. XD
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Yoboman
Member
There is a far larger scale of media being produced these days due to streaming services. Means more shit mixed in with the good, has nothing to do with whether they are woke or not.
Those directors dominated for so long because they were proven commodities
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
Good?
strange headache
Banned
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
But the scale makes sense though. We have more writers - more trash writers. It is like this in every area - I mean can easily see in software development these days.
Hammerite Zealot
Member
There is no chance to make Akira into movie and keep the greatness of original. Please hollywood don't even try.
Honey Bunny
Member
This is what they deserve
HoodWinked
Member
shit in, shit out.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
The shit shows tend to have some very obvious personas attached to them.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
I kinda feel sorry for John Cho, because I always had the impression it was a passion project for him. Poor bastard.
Hopefully The Last Airbender keeps the wokebending to a minimum, and avoids a similar fate.
Hopefully The Last Airbender keeps the wokebending to a minimum, and avoids a similar fate.
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
Glad to see a fellow gaf who loves Korean stuff as much as I do. That being said My Name while it was good, it was far from being top dog. Extracurricular tho was nice, really loved it but it's clearly not for everyone. I'd say its a niche more than anything compared to the big stuff HBO has put out.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
If you're going to shit all over your fan base before the product even debuts it better be a good product.
El Pistolero
Banned
Name one extremely well received and highly reviewed by critics live action iteration of an anime. Woke or not. I'll wait
Kenshin
El Pistolero
Banned
Ending on a high note. Lynch would have nightmares if he were to watch this scene...
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Then the end Spike before dying, he meets a girl with high caffeine in her body demanding a job, not being able to anymore dies and yells him name?
Poor actress who makes Ed so much casting and acting effort for just a few minutes of fame.
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Keihart
Member
I agree with the niche angle, it kinda is.
Regarding to My Name, i think it's an example of great action even if not as great as a whole as a series. I can't think of any other show with action as good as that one.
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LoneWolf&Subs
Neo Member
Extremely overrated… I think it’s because of quality in production we got in the 60’s, and 70’s due to the western demand for samurai films in that era, because any time I check out these new ones I’m ultimately disappointed by them. Especially this extremely grey version of Kenshin. The only acception is 13 Assassins. The rest feel like they have no clue how to make chambara without making it look like The Last Samurai. Even then they don’t have the sense of scale that film has.
Kev Kev
Member
im still struggling to figure out who this show was supposed to be for
it wasnt fans of the original (thats for damn sure), younger people have never heard of bebop or arent interested, older people wouldnt go near it, and any other random person wouldnt stick around because the quality just wasnt there (more in terms of script/acting than anything else).
who did they make this show for? who was their target audience? its baffling
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Im pretty sure that Netflix has an algorithm for renew vs cancel and I doubt reviews play anything but the tiniest part in it. If it costs a lot and doesn't enter the zeitgeist within the first couple of weeks then it gets canned.
I would imagine it has to do with people watching it initially vs people watching midway. If it starts with 10 million watching and by episode 5 there are only 1 million watching it, I would imagine it is not getting renewed.
Halo is Back
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El Pistolero
Banned
They're adaptations of entertaining animes, so no one should expect some Akira Kurosawa caliber.
Still, all the films have been faithful to the spirit of the manga, and are easily above other attempts.
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
https://mydramalist.com/52921-model-taxi
not on Netflix tho but if you can...get it in other ways, I recommend it