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Anyone not play RE:4 because the mechanics changed?
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ToyMachine228
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If any hard-core Resident Evil fans are holding out on Resident Evil 4 because of the change, stop. I was, and still am a huge fan of the Resident Evil series. Have been since the beginning. I even enjoyed Resident Evil Zero. But Resident Evil 4 is quite honestly the pinnacle of the series. And it is still Resident Evil, despite the changes. It's not like they totally changed the game to the point where it's not Resident Evil anymore. This is the evolution of a series which has given itself an even brighter future with Resident Evil 4. Everyone owes their thanks to Shinji Mikami for this.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Dr_Cogent said:
Hmmmm....
Red Scarlet
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Nope, I'm not playing RE4.
It's wonderful that all the players that enjoy this game do, but they enjoy it for things "improved" that I and other fans of the old style wish were still intact. But they no longer are. RE4 does not contain the game elements that I got into the series to begin with. People seem to not be able to comprehend that there are fans of what the RE series used to be, which is a shame.
But that's how things go sometimes. Have fun, I know I will playing something else. We all win in various ways (you guys finally get a "tolerable" RE, I save 50 bucks).
It's wonderful that all the players that enjoy this game do, but they enjoy it for things "improved" that I and other fans of the old style wish were still intact. But they no longer are. RE4 does not contain the game elements that I got into the series to begin with. People seem to not be able to comprehend that there are fans of what the RE series used to be, which is a shame.
But that's how things go sometimes. Have fun, I know I will playing something else. We all win in various ways (you guys finally get a "tolerable" RE, I save 50 bucks).
Instigator
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Red Scarlet said:
I'm open-minded. Please elaborate.
Red Scarlet
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It'll just go on deaf ears. Not worth the headache to either side.
Instigator
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Do it just for me, don't reply to any of the other posters. :lol
Seriously, just cite a couple of things you prefered in the old games. No need for a lenghty explanation.
Seriously, just cite a couple of things you prefered in the old games. No need for a lenghty explanation.
PanopticBlue
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Stinkles said:
In the case of RE4, the controls do exactly the same thing whether the camera is behind Leon or across the room from him. In all RE games (including RE4) the basic movement controls are as follows:
UP = Move Forward
Down = Move Backward
Left = Turn Left
Right = Turn Right
The camera placement doesn't change a thing. Bear in mind, I never really had a problem with this setup, I'm just defending the truth. However, I still wish RE4 would have adopted the DMC control scheme.
Red Scarlet
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Check your PM, Instigator.
I like both styles, really.
I loved the tension and ammo micromanagement of the old REs. You never felt safe at the higher difficulties, because the games never relented. Even though the series' scare tactics were old hat and outplayed, I still played with a large amount of tension due to the game's mechanics.
I was still blown away by RE4 though. The difficulty dropped considerably, but everything else about it was amazing. The game never, not even for a second, dragged, from the moment you started in the village to the game's finale.
I loved the tension and ammo micromanagement of the old REs. You never felt safe at the higher difficulties, because the games never relented. Even though the series' scare tactics were old hat and outplayed, I still played with a large amount of tension due to the game's mechanics.
I was still blown away by RE4 though. The difficulty dropped considerably, but everything else about it was amazing. The game never, not even for a second, dragged, from the moment you started in the village to the game's finale.
HomerSimpson-Man
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PanopticBlue said:
Actually it does, action is much more responsive and reactive instead of the passive style of the old RE setup in which it's only the character's face forward movement is always up regards of whether the camera is forth or not. RE4 jus does away with the awkwardness and let's the player see what the character sees and with a new combat system that's highly dependent on it, which wouldln't really work in the old RE games even if it's technically "tank control."
MoxManiac said:
Agreed completely. The tension and inventory forethought were traits I found endearing of the classic games. Surivial horror indeed.
The difficulty was an issue with RE4, and I would have liked to see more combat setpieces similar to the village in the early game, but RE4 was still pretty rad.
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PanopticBlue said:
Of course it does. Up now means move into the screen, no matter what. This is far from the case in old REs, you can't just look at it from the characters perspective as that's not how we're playing (in the old ones).
You have to look at it from the camera perspective, it's far more intuitive.
TheJollyCorner
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Instigator said:
If that were the case, RE4 would have actually been creepy and unnerving.
HomerSimpson-Man
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I have to mention the often over looked sound usage that been effected by the game's play mechanics. With the character's left being your left and right being your right, so does the sound on a decent speaker set-up.
It really adds to the atmosphere. To be about to give warning from which side an enemy might be coming from being easier to decipher, in a game in which the enemies seem to love to flank you in large numbers, it saved my butt a few times. As pratical as it is atmospheric.
It's going to be amazing with Dolby Digital 5.1 next gen with Resident Evil 5.
It really adds to the atmosphere. To be about to give warning from which side an enemy might be coming from being easier to decipher, in a game in which the enemies seem to love to flank you in large numbers, it saved my butt a few times. As pratical as it is atmospheric.
It's going to be amazing with Dolby Digital 5.1 next gen with Resident Evil 5.
Red Scarlet said:
I wish i had saved my 50 bucks. I did not like RE4 and i was a fan of the old games (loved RE1 and RE2, RE3 was ok, RECV sucked). I feel exactly like you, RE4 was not a real RE game (it was more of a shooting gallery game like HotD) , and i just don't see what people here love about it.
anotheriori
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IAWTPMoxManiac said:
Old RE had it's flaws but it was a puzzle/survival horror with usually bad story/plot.
I liked RE4 alot, but I can see how old school fans might not like it since its pretty much a new game. RE4 had very few challenging puzzles and i never once felt fear or the tension as I did in the old games. If the devs took the RE4 complaints to heart RE5 would basically be a FPS, even though RE4 was already pretty easy.
Instigator
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TheJollyCorner said:
That is, if you get scared easily.
Silent Hill is a bore fest.
Shogmaster said:
Same here. I've played through both RE2, REmake, but RE0 is just bad especially after RE4. I nearly died against a single slow-moving zombie because of the angle my character was shooting and the fact that I couldn't see the zombie till it was a few feet away. Tapping right to aim more to the left, left to aim right, and missing from point-blank range. What's it called? Degrees of seperation? Remote-controlling a robot from a distance, who controls the gun, that fires at the enemy. Lack of storage trunks, handling all those items between two characters with tiny inventories, backtracking for one or two items on the floor of some room... that game is a chore. I turned it off after an hour of repeatedly telling myself not to and to give it a chance.
Jagernaut said:
Um, if RE4 fans can see why others like classic RE, why cant numerous classic RE fans see why others like RE4? That's pretty narrow-minded. As someone mentioned before, the RE board on IGN is really bad when it comes to this. You can't make a RE4 thread without it being extensively trolled by all the RE4 haters there. Even by the mods on that board.
Red Scarlet
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Bah, RE:CV wasn't too bad. I got the rocket launcher in the DC game within a week (but I played the game for a week straight). I perfectly understand why those that didn't like the RE's before like RE4. What I just dislike is how rabid the hatred is for those other games is, and how the big fans of RE4 just dismiss those older fans for liking the original games. But I'm rather "don't change!" with games in general.
Instigator said:
There's a difference between "scary" and "creepy and unnerving" - at least in my eyes. All the games in the SH series have - to a varying extent - left me emotionally drained after I've finished them. It's not about jump scares, but holy shit, SH2 is definitely a depressing experience (in a positive way).