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[Vognerful]

Yeah this aged well

PS5 boss criticises Microsoft over Xbox developer ‘spending sprees’

PlayStation CEO Jim Ryan has given a new interview in which he argues there's 'no comparison' between the PS4 and PS5 launch line-ups.

www.google.com

Man you opened yourself up to 2k posts of 15 thousands words each about how you took that out of context.

 

[Adam_802]

No, they didn't. Argue with facts not feelings.

Facts say the 360 was the place to be for the majority of the generation, no feeling involved. Mindshare is more important than sales especially when theyre as close as the 360/ps3 were in the end.

 

[tommib]

Yeah they have like 1.5 mill MAU and they bring in more people with every season.

Next expansion is gonna break records for them

You’re hilarious.

 

[fart town usa]

Worst part about this acquisition is that 2 weeks ago we saw people calling out members who said COD is lacking quality.

Now we see the people defending COD acting like Destiny is trash.

Just come on, don't be like that. There's a word for that type of behavior but I'm trying to avoid a flame war.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

You’re hilarious.

Well at least you're not calling me ugly like that bigot kyliethicc

 

[TheDreadLord]

Some People don’t understand the value of bungie.Bungie made the very successful Halo ip and made Destiny both great games with a huge fan base.Bungie can create something like halo again and be very successful and they have lots of employees.This is what Sony was lacking, they have killzone and other shooter ips but the studios who made those ipd don’t want to make third or ego shooters all the time so here comes Bungie into play with their huge over 600 employees with expertise in shooters.

Most of the people involved in Halo are actually in 343.

 

[Bragr]

And they are still gonna keep Destiny multi-platform? I can understand Call of Duty because it generates so much money, but Destiny?

I assume this is because of the eventual Destiny 3, they want that as a massive exclusive PS5 franchise, I assume.

 

[Fare thee well]

The gaming version of the cold war

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Facts say the 360 was the place to be for the majority of the generation, no feeling involved. Mindshare is more important than sales especially when theyre as close as the 360/ps3 were in the end.

lmao. PS3 sold more units. Period. Mindshare was also in Sony's favor since the ps4 obliterated the xbox one from the jump.

 

[saintjules]

What? That doesn‘t even make sense. What‘s the point in buying them then?

 

[Ammogeddon]

What timeline have I ended up in?

This shit is getting crazy.

 

[Freeman76]

They will work well together, very similar approaches to business. Very surprised Bungie decided to stay multiplatform though.

 

[Mr Moose]

Facts say the 360 was the place to be for the majority of the generation, no feeling involved. Mindshare is more important than sales especially when theyre as close as the 360/ps3 were in the end.

Came out a year earlier than the PS3, and the Wii won, don't try to change history.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Are you sure? Cause it better be, there is just no fucking reason and logic to spent 3.6B to then just keep everything multi.

If they can make a bigger FPS than CoD, it makes sense to have it multiplayer and bring in more dollars.

 

[treemk]

They must be mostly done with Destiny, then.

Otherwise I don't know why you'd purchase them and not make D2 exclusive.

Making D2 exclusive would be like buying a house and then burning half of it down. Executives do not and cannot think like console warriors.

 

[gimmmick]

Looks like a colossal waste of money.

After what Ms paid for activison, really?

 

[ByWatterson]

I don't really see anyone talking about future IP. Bungie will obviously develop a new IP exclusive for PlayStation. Destiny 3 probably won't happen, or if it does, it will only be on PS5.

LOL, I said basically the same right at the same time.

This isn't and can't be about Destiny 2.

 

[Calm Mind]

Yeah this aged well

PS5 boss criticises Microsoft over Xbox developer ‘spending sprees’

PlayStation CEO Jim Ryan has given a new interview in which he argues there's 'no comparison' between the PS4 and PS5 launch line-ups.

www.google.com

Aged like milk.

 

[twilo99]

How is bungie worth 1/2 of zenimax?

 

[Evil Calvin]

what's the point of buying them without exclusivity exactly?

$70 a copy. That's why.

 

[Swift_Star]

Sony: "Microsoft give us call of duty after 2023!"
Spencer: "lol nope we have the most popular fps now"
Sony: "that's it, we bought Bungie! Now hand over call of duty or we won't release destiny 3 on xbox!"
Spencer:

Man, what a weird flex and move. I would rather save up to buy something worth y money rather than waste it on a developer that hasn't been shined since last time they made games for Microsoft.

Eating up the scraps.

Maybe that’s the reason you’re not a CEO. You don’t know what you’re talking about

 

[DragonNCM]

Good choice there Sony a much needed boost in FPS games. Hope Bingie can deliver in quality.

 

[Topher]

"They will remain independent and multiplatform".

Good. Destiny fans on Xbox don't have to worry. That's the way this should be.

 

[Sosokrates]

Man you opened yourself up to 2k posts of 15 thousands words each about how you took that out of context.

How can those statements be out of context?

 

[graywolf323]

Worst part about this acquisition is that 2 weeks ago we saw people calling out members who said COD is lacking quality.

Now we see the people defending COD acting like Destiny is trash.

Just come on, don't be like that. There's a word for that type of behavior but I'm trying to avoid a flame war.

we really should make bingo cards about reactions to acquisitions

it doesn't even matter if Sony or MS is the one who acquires a company, the fanboys on both sides say the same stupid shit

 

[itsjustJEFF]

I swear to Jesus, these insider traders at the worst! Someone leaked the news to select "special" investors

Looks like Playstation is thinking it needs FPS games, cause lets be honest that is the most popular genre rn and has been for a long time now. Lets be honest it's someplace PS is SEVERELY lacking! You can hate on Destiny (as former Destiny addict, I do LOL) but you can't argue with the way that game does gun play, it just feels fantastic. Good move on the PS side to patch up a GIANT hole they had in their ship.

Bungie might be the guys taking over all those Playstation FPS IP's everyone seems to want to make a comeback. I personally would rather have Bungie EXIT Destiny, or at least dedicate a small team to it... and move on to something else, please

EDIT: I personally think quite a few ppl are "disappointed" with this purchase because of perspective. It seems like most acquisitions are looked at "which franchises will be taken away from company B or C? " That seems to be the prevailing sentiment... it's about what will be "on my side" and no longer on "their side"

 

[BlackM1st]

What a joke... D1 had such potential and it ultimately went nowhere. I'm skeptical. Sony got MS sloppy seconds and it shows...

 

[SenjutsuSage]

So strange to see Jason Schreier on MSNBC speaking so glowingly of this deal. He isn't on the phone contacting antitrust people this time?

 

[Honey Bunny]

Last time Bungie did something nearly interesting was Oni on PS2.

There's dozens of you mate, dozens

 

[DJ12]

They won the 7th gen (no, ps3 barely coming back in sales doesnt matter lol ) , these things change. They're setting the stage to win again in the future.

ROFL.

People buying multiple consoles because they kept breaking (before MS admitted it was their fault and ponied up the dough) and still a comfortable, all be it closer (to Sony), third.

I think you are forgetting the Wii.

 

[Mr Moose]

Man you opened yourself up to 2k posts of 15 thousands words each about how you took that out of context.

Ryan says that more acquisitions are possible, but he was eager to remind us that Sony's existing studios have grown considerably over the last generation.

"It's probably not widely appreciated or understood, to what extent that we have grown our own game development capability organically over the course of this generation," he says. "Obviously, it's been helped by the acquisition of Insomniac, and it's wonderful to have them as part of the family. I would just invite anybody to look at the launch window line-up of the PS4 generation, or PS3 generation, and compare it to what we are going to bring in the equivalent phase of PS5. There's just no comparison.

"That is the fruit of not massive spending sprees, but of very, very steadily, carefully planned organic growth. Probably the best example I give... I could obviously talk about Naughty Dog, but they've always been making great games. But let's talk about Ghost of Tsushima, which has been a critical delight and certainly a commercial delight to an extent that we didn't think it would be. That speaks volumes to the work that Sucker Punch has done to build on their previous canon of work.

"We are lucky enough to have five or six studios who fall into that category... But it isn't luck, because we've been working on this for years and years. Very quietly, in a very PlayStation way, we've been building something quite special with these studios. You can do it with frenzied acquisition, or measured acquisition, or you can do it organically."

They should've used full quotes and linked the original article.

PlayStation CEO Jim Ryan on making PS5 more successful than PS4

Over the past few weeks, PlayStation head Jim Ryan has received more than his usual share of emails.From the moment PS5…

www.gamesindustry.biz

 

[StealthGoblin]

Not a fan of buying up in terms of consolidation, but at the very least, this is the way to announce it. Let the fans know exactly the situation with no room for debate like Xbox.

Everything will be multiplat, including future things. Good on Jim and PlayStation for the clarity.

 

[ByWatterson]

Have to say, too, that this feels a bit like Activision merging with Blizzard, in that Bungie will supposedly be independent, but then bit by bit become a Sony studio full-stop.

 

[ozz ex machina]

You... you know Bungie "Created" Halo right? The good one? Halo 1,2,3, etc.

You do know microsoft own the halo ip right? Just look at how much ms paid for bethesda and their ip. Now look at this deal. What a shambles.

Also infinite and 5 are both better in terms of multiplayer than reach.

 

[Von Hugh]

 

[Sosokrates]

So Playstation is heading in a service based direction too..

 

[legacy24]

And they are still gonna keep Destiny multi-platform? I can understand Call of Duty because it generates so much money, but Destiny?

I assume this is because of the eventual Destiny 3, they want that as a massive exclusive PS5 franchise, I assume.

Sony needs the Multiplat money, MS don't

 

[OmegaSupreme]

ROFL.

People buying multiple consoles because they kept breaking (before MS admitted it was their fault and ponied up the dough) and still a comfortable, all be it closer (to Sony), third.

I think you are forgetting the Wii.

Don't bother with this one. He wouldn't know a fact if it sat on his face.

 

[Punished Miku]

So strange to see Jason Schreier on MSNBC speaking so glowingly of this deal. He isn't on the phone contacting antitrust people this time?

And he just dropped that recent Bungie is a toxic workplace article.

If you follow Schreir's output, then Sony is buying Ken Levine's small studio next. They just had another toxic workplace article as well.

 

[iorek21]

So, Microsoft got Crash Bandicoot and Sony got Bungie…

LoL dafuq

 

[MH3M3D]

Should have saved their moneyz and bought Squeenix instead.

 

[VAVA Mk2]

This wouldn't have been possible without the support of the PlayStation Militia and Bryank

Had to lock Phil in a cupboard so he wasn't available to make a counteroffer

MS tried several times in recent years to buy Bungie back and it fell through.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

I lold

 

[Swift_Star]

Not according to Bungie. To have any chance to recoup the Sony investment Bungie will have to stay multiplatform for years.

Source?

 

[nemiroff]

I.. wat? But why?

 

[Gone]

Depends on how big their next IP is. Xbox wanted to buy Bungie, but they didn’t want to sell to them previously. Their new game might very well be something that aims to dethrone CoD.

Nothing can dethrone CoD.

 

[Thedtrain]

I'm still mad they managed to ruin Destiny. D2 PvP is not good.

 

[The_Mike]

Maybe that’s the reason you’re not a CEO. You don’t know what you’re talking about

So you're saying Bungie with only Destiny is a better acquisition than Activision Blizzard, with Wow, Diablo, starcraft, call of duty, crash, spyro and so on and so on.

I know there's a hell of a price in difference, but we all know which of these are the price cows that's actually will get their moneys worth lol.

 

[Adam_802]

ROFL.

People buying multiple consoles because they kept breaking (before MS admitted it was their fault and ponied up the dough) and still a comfortable, all be it closer (to Sony), third.

I think you are forgetting the Wii.

The fact the people's 360s kept breaking and they kept just buying a new one instead of switching to ps3 says it all.

 

[digitaltrance]

Why are they all buying up these studios? Ridiculous.