Bruce Springsteen
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meaningless, if they really didn't support him then they should vote. Hopefully this country woke up on November 9th realizing that voting actually matters, not just bitching about shit on twitter and Facebook
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Climate denial will be the official policy of Trumps administration
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meaningless, if they really didn't support him then they should vote. Hopefully this country woke up on November 9th realizing that voting actually matters, not just bitching about shit on twitter and Facebook
Future Republicans: "If liberals knew climate change was such a big issue, why didn't they do more to change things and inform us? They didn't really care. Only we can fix things now. We will get your coal and oil jobs back and fix climate change."
Future idiots: "Yeah, that sounds right."
Future idiots: "Yeah, that sounds right."
Ethical Hedonism
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I can totally see this happening.
Trump CAN'T get out of Paris agreement, it would take at least 4 years before you guys are out of it. The next president (maybe you guys won't vote for a science illiterate idiot next time) can re-ratify the treaty.
CITIES, STATES, COMPANIES AND INDIVIDUALS are ultimately what will decide of the future. And that future is greener. The speed of the transition is what we can influence.
The retards in the White House can deny the science as long as they want and try to bring back coal (lol... This industry will never come back to what it was... It is OVER), nothing will stop the transition except if everyone gives up.
Get you chin up, visit my climate change thread and do your part.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1319159&highlight=trumped
Note : many republicans think Climate change is real.
CITIES, STATES, COMPANIES AND INDIVIDUALS are ultimately what will decide of the future. And that future is greener. The speed of the transition is what we can influence.
The retards in the White House can deny the science as long as they want and try to bring back coal (lol... This industry will never come back to what it was... It is OVER), nothing will stop the transition except if everyone gives up.
Get you chin up, visit my climate change thread and do your part.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1319159&highlight=trumped
Note : many republicans think Climate change is real.
FinalStageBoss
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Does the treat spell out consequences for the US if he doesn't enforce the Paris agreement?
We need democrats, especially young democrats, to fucking vote.
Economic sanctions, trade wars.
CrocMother
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The younger generation already hates you.
John Kowalski
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A relative majority is no less powerful or meaningful, and it stands to be determined if those who didn't vote would hypothetically result a different candidate if they had. So we're left not with "this man is not representative of this country" but "this man represents a solid percentage of this country, and perhaps more".
Haunted
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US influence is going to get weakened over the next couple years.
China and Russia are going to become stronger. The Brexit is going to weaken the EU to some extent, but with Merkel de facto taking over the "leader of the free world" moniker from the US president, EU's influence on the global stage will not wane as much.
China and Russia are going to become stronger. The Brexit is going to weaken the EU to some extent, but with Merkel de facto taking over the "leader of the free world" moniker from the US president, EU's influence on the global stage will not wane as much.
1.21Gigawatts
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Thats why Putin is a fan.
Hierophant
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told you guys this is how we start speaking mandarin
Go take some chinese courses because you're gonna need it soon
Go take some chinese courses because you're gonna need it soon
Trump can't legally withdraw from the Paris deal for four years, but there's nothing stopping him from just actively not pursuing any of those goals during his term.
I agree that cities and increasingly green-conscious companies, plus the continuing decline of coal no matter what Trump says, will help to keep climate action from completely backsliding.
I don't think that many Republicans believing in climate change is any kind of consolation, though, when the major decision makers and the party as a whole continue to ignore it.
mckmas8808
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I hope they take advantage of this moment.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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fuck that.
I've said it before, gloves are fucking off. We need to go all in GOP style.
Stop trying to take the high road.
AstroNut325
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Sain Drevia
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Regardless of what his administration says and/or does regarding climate change, I'm still committed to taking steps to help offset my carbon footprint and being a good example for those around me (my next car will be electric, I will be installing solar paneling on my first home, cutting down on beef in my diet, etc.). If the world is fucked, then so be it. I'll at least know that I tried to be part of the solution rather than the problem.
Hierophant
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you guys have to be more direct in calling out the GOP hypocrisy, the high road doesn't work, especially since it relied on people having critical thinking skills to understand when the GOP was manipulating them
AstroNut325
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Brah... he can legislate taxes and all kinds of restrictions/fees onto electric cars, solar, renewables, ect... making them less cost effective. He can, and will surely try to f*** you over, and the rest of the planet.
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Ditto this. F*** the high road. The states between the West and East coast are clueless idiots with zero critical thinking skills.
Charles Foster Kane
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All of this Trump experience this year has felt like those antichrist coming stories that religious nutjubs used to tell.
Sain Drevia
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I'm aware of what he can do, but what I'm saying is that unless things get truly out of hand, I'm willing to pay the premium to still go that route. I understand that isn't feasible for everyone, but I have the means to do so and will try my damnedest to support the companies that specialize in cleaner/renewable technologies.
AstroNut325
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Ah I see. I will be doing the same. I'll pay the premium to get an EV and solar on my roof in the next 4-5 years. Hopefully, solar next year!
I already use public transit as much as possible. And we eat meat 3-4 times a week only. And our AC is off unless it's really really hot or really really cold.
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This should rightfully be on page one of every damn newspaper in the US, together with the information of what bullshit it is and how the orange idiot actually disregards fucking proven facts that determine the outcome of the entire world, including the US.
Is it? No? There you have your reason on how this could have happened.
Is it? No? There you have your reason on how this could have happened.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Climate policy basically got zero coverage during the election. Media thought that spicy scandals were more important.
Of course. Like Medicare part D, they will see the light when they have the power to claim that victory for themselves.
It is what I envision happening with Obamacare. They will name some bill the Obamacare repeal and replace act and it will in reality be a re-structuring. Fixing stuff they helped break like risk corridors. Re-organizing the marketplace to benefit their special interests. With Tom Price front and center I expect federal malpractice caps and bans to help get the AMA some kickbacks and his fellow physicians. Carve up Medicare to make it somewhat lucrative for private insurers but harm the government side by reducing the strength of the risk pool by siphoning off younger, healthier Medicare patients.
It will be a shitshow framed as a bill to help the American people and working class families. As for climate change. I actually don't think they are at that point to try and capture that victory for themselves. Which is scary.
Nikodemos
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The religious nutbags were right!
Except they are The Beast's followers. <m._night_shyamalan_intensifies.gif>
TechnoTrousers
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RIP Earth 
They literally did this when they overrode Obama's veto on the "sue Saudi government" bill.
"If this could hurt the United States, why didn't the president tell us?????"
Hierophant
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do you think obama is fuming in rage or just quietly disappointed?
Nah, after a vote, everyone living in the country is to blame. No lame excuses.
Sky Interloper
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Goddamn the coal industry money in US politics, it's its fault that this is happening. I mean, what other country would staunchly try to keep using such a highly polluting fuel when the US has enormous reserves of natural gas an alternative much less toxic to the atmosphere.
Completely decarbonizing the economy is something that is not going to happen as easy as many people want, but the faster coal is phased out, the better for everyone.
Completely decarbonizing the economy is something that is not going to happen as easy as many people want, but the faster coal is phased out, the better for everyone.
Tell a lie enough times, sooner or later people will start to believe it. Climate change denial is basically a conspiracy that's been going on for decades.
To Far Away Times
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This was one of the issues that got me to flip from GOP to Democrat.
Climate change is measured and factual. It is not an opinion.
The denial of fact for belief. I just don't even...
Ugh - I can totally see this happening.
Netherscourge
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Air quality in LA will be lovely a couple years into Trump's reign.
^And this is WITH environmental regulations.
^And this is WITH environmental regulations.
California basically already said fuck off and enjoy killing yourselves, to the rest of the USA on this stuff. They're doing their own thing. It's good.Air quality in LA will be lovely a couple years into Trump's reign.
^And this is WITH environmental regulations.
I'm sorry. I did my best. I voted. I protested. I sought discourse at Trump rallies.
Please tell me what else I can and could've done?
hydragonwarrior
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It's amazing how much we wanted Republicans to fail (and end up in their own worst case scenario) that we completely ended up in the worst case scenario for Dems everywhere instead.
Stein should be sweating bullets right now, alongside any environmental group in the US. The best you can do is a Standing Rock protest, and it ultimately won't change things. All you can rely on are private companies belief on climate change, sans oil and coal industries.
I'd be a lot less gloomy if there was evidence that the Dem party has figured out how to make sure they're not going to lose the next election, and have some plans for 2018. But holy shit, some of the attitudes of "who cares" in this thread make it seem like Trump will win again in 2020.
Stein should be sweating bullets right now, alongside any environmental group in the US. The best you can do is a Standing Rock protest, and it ultimately won't change things. All you can rely on are private companies belief on climate change, sans oil and coal industries.
I'd be a lot less gloomy if there was evidence that the Dem party has figured out how to make sure they're not going to lose the next election, and have some plans for 2018. But holy shit, some of the attitudes of "who cares" in this thread make it seem like Trump will win again in 2020.
Air quality in LA will be lovely a couple years into Trump's reign.
^And this is WITH environmental regulations.
Can't wait to see how they pin this one on brown people too...
Jmanunknown
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RIP Earth
Earth will be fine its plants, animals, and humanity that are in trouble. Access to safe/clean water will be a really major issue and is already an issue for at least 1/10th of the worlds population. It is only going to get worse as humanity continues to pollute the safe/clean water we have and climate change effects get worse.
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