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Competitive Super Smash Bros. Melee Discussion Thread
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What the fuck @ those rules
sigh
at least Japan loves Mew2King again
Moon's pretty solid. Only things I don't really like is that sometimes he falls into the same habits (tech-ing one direction all of the time) and this weekend he was very unaggressive in his edge guarding
Now Ryobeat though =) Good Peach good loser's run
How did you screw up against an IC's though....kept attacking their shield in front of them and making these super unsafe airdodges
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
Weston losing . . still though, he was popping OFF. Westballz vs. Wobbles in winners was one for the history books for sure.
theprodigy
Member
wow come on Smash 4, break 3k viewers for Aftershock pls
also Axe with the character variety
also Axe with the character variety
Wait, what?
Be still my heart.
Edit: meanwhile, Lunchables Roy vs IPK Lucario is pretty damn slick so far.
Oh hell fucking yea. Haven't been playing much lately cause of mid-terms and spring break but I'm ready to come back.
Based PMDT for FINALLY putting in a Bowser Castle stage that was long overdue in the smash series.
Also nice Gambit avatar!
#BuffPit
#WhensLyn
#SamiSquad
#Issactoobecausewhynot
Wow, I missed the set, but I gotta watch it as soon as it's up.
For comparison, what were Melee numbers like?
theprodigy
Member
Smash 4 hit ~3.5k in the end? dunno
Melee was at least double that, it's higher than PM is right now
my god
the level of polish these dudes put into their work at this point is incredible
looks fantastic.
Smash 4 was around 3.6K I think. Melee was around 7.5K, and PM is around 4.5K.
Melee had the benefit of Clash Tournaments hosting Tourney Locator when Smash 4 ended though.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Finally info on PM 3.6. Can update that OT I've been waiting to post for a few months.
Bowser's caslte looks great visually, but I don't like the layout as much as the "unofficial" one. Can't really complain though, theirs is more true to the Mario series.
Bowser's caslte looks great visually, but I don't like the layout as much as the "unofficial" one. Can't really complain though, theirs is more true to the Mario series.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
I've kind of wondered whether it'd make sense for the PM devs to invest in making their own game instead of just doing PM. I feel like PM is always going to be in this odd legal position anyhow, and clearly these devs are pretty talented in how they mod Brawl already. I figure if Sony can blatantly copy Smash Bros and get away with it, indies could get away with something similar. Anyways, was it just me or the Bowser stage's lava looked off for some reason? Everything else looked good though.
Making your own game is a lot harder than using an existing engine, existing assets, and existing data. Not to mention that a lot of the appeal of Smash, whether casual or competitive, is simply the allure of playing as Nintendo characters. Trying to sell (for a given use of the term) a Smash-alike without Fox, Marth, Mario, or whoever is going to be inherently harder to do than having them.
From what I've seen from the PMDT, they have no desire to make a smash-alike.
These are dudes who stuck with the game/series for decades plus plus and loved it for lifetimes.
They don't want to make a ripoff, they just want to give back something to Smash by culminating mechanics and balance they love from the entire series into one platform.
These are dudes who stuck with the game/series for decades plus plus and loved it for lifetimes.
They don't want to make a ripoff, they just want to give back something to Smash by culminating mechanics and balance they love from the entire series into one platform.
Aside from how hard it would be to create a game like this from the ground-up and Nintendo franchises being the games' primary appeal - how would they even go about that? This is not a small indie-like team. Literally hundreds of people from all around the world have contributed to the project. Many have come and gone. How would they set up a company and divide profits, based on that?
The voluntary basis is what makes Project M and other impressive non-commercial community-made efforts like Black Mesa possible in the first place.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Ah I didn't realize it was volunteer based. That's pretty cool then.
Posted this in the FGW thread, should post it here too.
There's a random tournament at UCI that has a $10,000 pot bonus for Melee. WTF. I never heard of this tournament.
https://www.facebook.com/events/1566360033636786/
http://www.startlan.com/home/
Why does this tournament have Melee with prize pool than Dota 2, StarCraft, Hearthstone or CS GO?
It's at the Bren Events Center on May 8-9th.
Melee is eSports now.
There's a random tournament at UCI that has a $10,000 pot bonus for Melee. WTF. I never heard of this tournament.
https://www.facebook.com/events/1566360033636786/
http://www.startlan.com/home/
Why does this tournament have Melee with prize pool than Dota 2, StarCraft, Hearthstone or CS GO?
It's at the Bren Events Center on May 8-9th.
Melee is eSports now.
theprodigy
Member
E S P O R T S B O Y S
(lol)
anyway upcoming major tournaments? isn't NCR supposed to be this weekend, though I dunno if it will have a big Melee turnout
(lol)
anyway upcoming major tournaments? isn't NCR supposed to be this weekend, though I dunno if it will have a big Melee turnout
Melee players seem to be picking I'm Not Yelling (which is a week later) over NCR.
theprodigy
Member
lol this is Bad Moon Rising/Final Round all over again
Awareness/hype has a lot to do with it. Most people only enjoy watching Smash 4 casually i.e some Twitch streamer who plays on For Glory and talks to the chat or something akin to ZeRo's Youtube content.
I linked the tourney in the Smash 4 thread and no one seemed interested at all, I think most people only are willing to watch EVO, CEO, MLG, Apex, etc. A majority of the people watching the Aftershock stream were probably people who watch Smash 4 at Xanadu too.
Really sucks that Apex and it's super defensive playstyle and fucking the bracket up soured so many people's initial opinions, but I have hope everything will sort itself out in the future. Looking at ZeRo's playstyle and how he is definitely more aggressive than defensive in Smash 4 is a pretty good example of how I and many others think Smash 4's meta will evolve into, especially considering he looks like he is a few months if a not a year ahead of everyone else based on his grip on the game.
Basically as long as people play the game and love playing it a scene will form.
theprodigy
Member
eh like M2K in early Brawl, people will catch ZeRo eventually, and it's probably gonna be faster especially if Diddy does get nerfed
also look what I found while trying to search up a player
If it comes down to it, other things roughly equal, I'd almost always rather go to a Melee/Smash only tournament over a fighting game tournament that has Melee at it.
theprodigy
Member
meh
most of the other FGC subgroups (anime/NRS/Tekken mainly) would be better off getting out of Capcom's shadow too, but for whatever reason they don't have their own tournaments for the most part (in the US at least)
but that's a discussion for another time
edit: random, but imagine if Miiverse was picked at Evo and Miiverse comments were actually turned on and showed up during the match (I know it won't be because it didn't come out before the rules were finalized, but still)
honestly
at this point the smash community doesn't need the fgc
in the grand scheme of things it's sf4>melee>smash 4>marvel>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else
Oh man, just finished hanging out with a new Melee player. He is really into Melee and has dreams of Melee becoming even bigger than it already is. His Falco was okay, good considering his lack of real opponent experience, but his devotion and ambition give me a lot of hope for the new generation of Melee players.
I'm excited to see where Melee will be in 5 years with a brand new batch of committed players.
I'm excited to see where Melee will be in 5 years with a brand new batch of committed players.
theprodigy
Member
I hope that model/texture/sound effect set sees an actual release. I want to play that. Turbo mode was an April Fool's joke and we got that (wasn't it?). Still waiting on Ike Climbers and Slippy though.
I don't care if it's April Fools. All of my yes!
Scythesurge
Member
This Armada interview is a pretty great read.
msalazar.de/2015/04/01/inside-the-mind-of-a-hyper-adapter/
msalazar.de/2015/04/01/inside-the-mind-of-a-hyper-adapter/
theprodigy
Member
Is it just me, or are NCR numbers pretty lackluster all around?
Finally checked this out, I love the focus that Bowser got in the start of the video.
Anyone watching Beauty 10? Doubles grand finals just concluded and it was incredibly hype. Android is an incredible teams player. Stream at http://www.twitch.tv/geekygoonsquad
No, but I will now, thanks for posting it.