Bumblebeetuna
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Why? Live is an iconic name. Xbox Network is lazy and boring.
That price hike was to try to force people to move to GamePass Ultimate instead.Lmao. People thinking this is a move towards free online.
Do you really think they’d pivot so drastically from a 2x price hike to free?
MS lives by subscriptions, don’t be ridiculous.
It's not a rebrand. It doesn't say Xbox Network anywhere.Legit question, Why the rebrand? Live everyone knows about it. I don't understand the reason behind this other than some head honcho wanting to 'Make a difference'
CTRL + HMeanwhile Xbox staff changing thousands of Xbox live help articles to say Xbox network.
IMO Gold going free while bundling it with GP makes alot of sense. Its also them trying to justify a price hike. Remember when you needed Gold to play online MP with game pass, and now only Ultimate has Gold bundled?It's pretty obvious something is happening with the online service at Xbox. Suffice to say, you don't lightly shutter a branding you've spent 15 years building up.
Gold going free makes sense. It getting bundled with Game Pass makes less sense, but is possible depending how they want to handle things.
What I don't really understand is why this is happening now rather than back in September or November. Some internal checklist probably, but would've been a megaton before launch. I suppose it still would be.
At the very least, here's hoping they're not waiting until summer for an explanation - especially if it's not the "right" explanation.
We have console wars symbiosis.Live means Vita!
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Its called game pass ultimate. Shows how much you know about the matter!If they make XBL free, they'd have to drop the price of Game Pass Unlimited. I don't see them doing that.
Live and Vita both have four letters, the number four represents a quadrilogy therefore Xbox will no longer have only 4 face buttons and MS will have more than 4 system generations in the 4th month of the 4th year of the 4th new moon therefore it is Phil making the snow not Bill gates... but both names also have 4 letters so maybe they’re actually distantly related.Live means Vita!
Correct, I spend more time using it than learning its name.Its called game pass ultimate. Shows how much you know about the matter!
They won’t even include a $15 codec that they’re advertising in their product, and these dudes think they’re going to have the largest portion of that division’s revenue wiped out. C’mon son!Lmao good luck thinking the multiplayer paywall will fall
Lmao good luck thinking the multiplayer paywall will fall
If I buy all the shit I need to watch a movie, then I buy the movie itself, I can then watch that movie and all of its contents.Umm? Most of them? I bought a TV, Soundbar, and Bluetooth headphones and then had to sub monthly to streaming services, and Cable for content. Even if I bought a physical disk for content, I still have to pay for its one time shipping which is akin to the Xbox Live charge. I bought a cellphone, can buy games on it, but still have to pay a monthly service charge to my carrier, even if I were on my home WiFi 100% of the time.
Internet backbone companies charge each other access fees all the time, and could in theory charge you, but the current business model, is that as an end user, you are simply shielded from those charges by your Internet Service Provider, who in turn raises the price you pay.
I don't understand the logic that paying for something that you use, and use often, is somehow unfair. Especially something that is $5 a month paid annually. If you want to connect to their network, you need to pay for access. This is not a hard concept.
For an analogy, I have a fun car (similar in concept to buying a game), yet I still have to for gas (electricity/internet) to run it, and Excise Tax (Xbox Live charge) to use the road.
Another analogy, I own a home (game), pay for gas & electricity (internet access), yet I must still pay property taxes and homeowners insurance to live in it (Xbox Live).
Xbox Network sounds like a television station name.
Lol it does.
Idiotic name change. Xbox Live still sounds cool, Xbox Network sounds boring.
Sony RN:
How would al carte multiplayer game sales work under a gamepass only model?Eventually, Xbox Live will just be replaced by Game Pass. They'll just require basic $10/month GP for paid online mp, while ftp will be free. They'll soften the blow by "upgrading" everyone's existing subs from XBL to GP. It'll double the price effectively (like they did already,) but many will not care cause "now they get game pass."
And $15/month GPU will shift its focus as the tier with Xcloud, EA play, etc. Live branding will go away. Everything will just be Game Pass.
So it's not live anymore
Get it?
Not sure what you mean, but basically nothing would change for users, except cost and the branding.How would al carte multiplayer game sales work under a gamepass only model?
I work in marketing.
Why? Brand is strong ..
Yeah the stupid part like advertising and target group research.Marketing is the fucking cringiest career path on the planet.
Like at @ kyliethicc stated, should they ever make a change like that I doubt any changes to the underlying technology would be made. So, probably no difference at all in terms of how CoD or Madden, etc. would interface with the network. Would just be a change in the service that you needed to be subscribed to.How would al carte multiplayer game sales work under a gamepass only model?