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Cyberpunk 2077 3rd person pre-alpha gameplay video from August 2013 leaked on 4chan
Butch_0451
Member
As if the game didn’t have enough problems already, just imagine all the extra shit they’d had to have dealt with if it was in third person.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
So the story I always heard was that they started development while Witcher 3 was still in development but pulled almost everyone off when Witcher 3 went into crunch and then rebooted development after the expansions shipped.
This definitely seems to back that up, it's clearly an entirely different game. I also think the direction they went with was a lot better, even if they shipped it too early.
This definitely seems to back that up, it's clearly an entirely different game. I also think the direction they went with was a lot better, even if they shipped it too early.
Nikodemos
Member
They, however, fucked up everything by deciding to go after that open-world GTA scrilla, instead of trying something more narrowly-focused, maybe even hub-based. Also, the rumored late story switch by Badowski (made Reeves's character into a larger part of the story) would have caused a bunch of already-developed stuff to become unusable.
Not only a lot better but also way more original as well. To my knowledge we never got a Deus Ex lite open world as extensive as cyberpunk prior to this.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
The open world was awesome, but it brings with it comparisons and expectations from pretty different types.of open world games like GTA. So they look ridiculous with a broken, half-implemented police system or whatever.
Sentenza
Member
Removed. What did it say?
Nikodemos
Member
They never should've gone open-world in the first place. You can sell a hub-style layout with the proper lore.
CartoonsNCereal
Banned
Why...they are one of the best devs we have lol most other devs arent trying to push anything forward...do you care about your hobby?
Fuz
Banned
Thank god they didn't go with that stupid camera.
CartoonsNCereal
Banned
But they already succeeded in open world with the witcher 3, so its not like they were a stranger to it
CartoonsNCereal
Banned
Witcher 3 never had thebsame open world as skyrim...but it was the better game.
I expected a witcher 3 design philosophy. Otgers sadly, saw guns and cars and compared to GTA and fallout.
My comparison made more sense since...its an rpg and the dev of the wotcher 3 but...kids will be kids
Nikodemos
Member
There's a great difference between the relatively sparse open world of TW3, even inside towns/cities, and an open world where you need a huge amount of algorithms for realistically-behaving people.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Not necessarily. Making a gag reel isn't unheard of. You don't know the intent behind the video. It could just have easily have been a humorous attempt to showcase bugs that needed fixing at one time or another.
harmny
Banned
They are literally making hot dog bikes and replacing adam smasher head with a chicken. Only a moron would see this as something serious. They are having fun.
In fact I would ask how they have time to do all this with all the crunch stories. I thought Jason told me devs looked visibly sick and were almost dying at their desks. Yeah the same Jason that tweeted that this video was the evidence that he was right and then he deleted the tweet because he was so wrong it was embarassing
Rolla
Banned
Bug reel isn't conclusive proof that upper management knew etc etc
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harmny
Banned
The opposite in fact. He tweeted that he was right and this was proof. Then he deleted it because he was absolutely wrong. In fact you had developers from other studios commenting that they do joke reels all the time
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harmny
Banned
indeed. because it is a prototype
SJRB
Gold Member
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SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
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Skifi28
Member
I can't think of a single thing they tried to push forward other than expectations.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
As crazy as it sounds, that super early demo with flat textures and empty buildings didnt look bad as a foundation.
Someone weird about this arms though.
Someone weird about this arms though.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
They are literally making hot dog bikes and replacing adam smasher head with a chicken. Only a moron would see this as something serious. They are having fun.
In fact I would ask how they have time to do all this with all the crunch stories. I thought Jason told me devs looked visibly sick and were almost dying at their desks. Yeah the same Jason that tweeted that this video was the evidence that he was right and then he deleted the tweet because he was so wrong it was embarassing
I dont know what he posted, but he took 2013 alpha phase joke videos as serious evidence of management incompetence for a game that launched in Nov 2020?
This guy did it for clicks? Or the dumbest guy in gaming?
harmny
Banned
how many AAA open world first person cyberpunk games have you seen?
"none because cyberpunk 2077 is a broken mess" 
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
having some fun internally is ... fun.
I guess bugs collection happens in every dev team
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Then it's just Deus Ex though. I think the open world added a lot.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Yup. Early Mass Effect games worked well enough using that style.
Mozzarella
Member
Glad they went for First Person, that example of third person looked very generic and takes out the immersion. The problem was not the first person. The game showed in the leak looked like a game that would suck really hard, lol.
Nikodemos
Member
It certainly added a shitton of bugs and broken (if not outright missing) mechanics.
Thing is, if I'm unsure whether I can properly build a car, I'd rather build a fully functional motorcycle, instead of a shitty barely-running car.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Don't blame the open world for that. They just shipped it before it was done, it's really that simple. It's a great game but it needed another year of polish probably and a lot of shit got left on the cutting room floor.
The same shit happened to Underworld Ascendant and that was hub based. It's not about that.
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harmny
Banned
they went from doing a hub based witcher 2 to making an open world in the witcher 3 and it turned out to be neogaf's game of the generation. with your mentality they would be still selling cd roms and localizing games to polish because you sound too scared to take a risk. no developer is %100 sure they can do something new. they just do it.
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IbizaPocholo
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CartoonsNCereal
Banned
Lol you're acting like they made a bad game....
You played worse/less impressive games all year.
harmny
Banned
yeah why do you dress up and comb your hair if you only see yourself in the mirror. that's dumb. i'm naked all the time in real life.
CartoonsNCereal
Banned
Right, because every game coming out was looking like cyberpunk.
People were just hyped just "because".
Most devs are releasing indie 2D's, Cods, hitman, ass creed, farcry, and souls games. And then your open world fps's were fallouts and elder scrolls. You never got shit like this, and you never got anything like this within its genre, so stop.
Cyberpunk was certainly a step above those titles in the same vein as the witcher 3, why are we acting like cdpr doesnt have the capability to do this. And why are we suddenly acting as if cyberpunk still wasnt a step above the majority these uninspired titles were getting today.
Footage of cyberpunk created more intrigue than say...returnal, why? Because returnal just looks like some game...like if i showed a non gamer returnal it wouldnt show non gamers how far shit has come in the same way a showcase of cyberpunk can...
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Skifi28
Member
The only thing Cyberpunk has going for it is, well, the Cyberpunk setting and RT. Everything else has been done before and much better. Its RPG elements are fine, but not exactly groundbreaking.There's absolutely nothing special about its open world and how you interact with it, if anything it's basic, at best. The developers built hype by showing very specific and polished footage and then promising that 90% of the game that wasn't shown was just as good and exciting. We all know how that turned out.
I really don't see what kind of metric hype generated is, especially if the end product was a colossal disappointment in every possible way. Are we celebrating scamming people now?
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Hugare
Member
Fist person is so much better for a game like this
It adds to the immersion, and interacting with items is so much better. In a game with so many assets it makes a lot of diference.
You can see an example in the video: player is selecting items that he cant see because his character model is in the way.
Npcs animations were awesome, some of the best in the industry. It wouldnt have been as noticeable in 3rd person.
It adds to the immersion, and interacting with items is so much better. In a game with so many assets it makes a lot of diference.
You can see an example in the video: player is selecting items that he cant see because his character model is in the way.
Npcs animations were awesome, some of the best in the industry. It wouldnt have been as noticeable in 3rd person.
Fuz
Banned
CartoonsNCereal
Banned
No I dont know how that turned out, because in my perspective the core game was actually very good and up to that quality, it just had bugs. And In every possible way? Which games? Lol
I expected an open world rpg with great and varied quests that kind of shit on others in its genre from a presentation and quest standpoint, like the witcher 3 did.
For example we had skyrim and fallout, and witcher 3 made those look like the devs werent even trying in terms of the shit that matters (quests, gameplay, rpg elements, especially quests)
And thats what cyberpunk ended up doing..
What other first person open world rpg are you comparing it to that did gameplay, presentation, and quests better?
And why are noobs comparing a cdpr game to GTA...because it has guns and cars? thats pretty low creative IQ lol
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Skifi28
Member
The Witcher 3 made Cyberpunk look like the devs weren't even trying. It had tons of sidequests that put the main quests of other games to shame. Can you really say the same about Cyberpunk?
It tries to be an open world game so it will be compared to other open world games, is it so strange? Its open world is an ebarassment compared to GTA V that came out in 2013 and you will find many videos where it doesn't compare favourably to even GTA IV from 2008. Yes, it has more RPG elements than those games, but that doesn't excuse all the faults of a game releasing in 2020.
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