AnotherOne
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[DF] Doom Eternal PS5 vs Xbox Series S/X
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Don't worry about the summary just know its another one.
DenchDeckard
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Woooooo!
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AnotherOne
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Fuckin rights bro.
thatJohann
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TLDR:
Both are great, both have almost perfect frame rates including on the 120 FPS mode.
PS5 has 2x fast loading times but a convoluted upgrade process and does not carry over the save.
XSS/XSX Smart Delivery made the upgrade a breeze carrying over the save as well.
both are great. I guess pick either one!
Both are great, both have almost perfect frame rates including on the 120 FPS mode.
PS5 has 2x fast loading times but a convoluted upgrade process and does not carry over the save.
XSS/XSX Smart Delivery made the upgrade a breeze carrying over the save as well.
both are great. I guess pick either one!
rickybooby87
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And to think, you can get similar performance for $399.99. What a bargain.
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Gamerguy84
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I don't think the upgrade of games is any hassle but they need to do a better job with those saves.
A Most Virtuous Cat
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Expected Khaled. Got Khaled. 
Strider Highwind
Banned
The user name and the gif by the op has me rolling
Looks like a great upgrade. I really like the upgrades to the PC Version so its dope seeing the console version is getting the same love
Looks like a great upgrade. I really like the upgrades to the PC Version so its dope seeing the console version is getting the same love
Riky
$MSFT
"It's also interesting to note that Xbox Series consoles use the hardware-based tier two VRS feature of the RDNA2 hardware, which is not present on PlayStation 5. VRS stands for variable rate shading, adjusting the precision of pixel shading based on factors such as contrast and motion. Pre-launch there was plenty of discussion about whether PS5 had the feature or not and the truth is, it doesn't have any hardware-based VRS support at all. However, developers can tap into the MSAA anti-aliasing hardware and exploit it to deliver something very similar to a tier one VRS solution. Metro Exodus does this on PlayStation 5, while Call of Duty Warzone does something similar on all consoles. In combination with Series X's extra GPU grunt, the use of variable rate shading may explain why the Microsoft console achieves higher resolutions overall."
Confirmation of the joint AMD statement about RDNA2 hardware features.
Confirmation of the joint AMD statement about RDNA2 hardware features.
Fake
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You can.
ManaByte
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Uh...
www.eurogamer.net
Doom Eternal's next-gen patch tested on PS5 and Xbox Series consoles
Released at the tail-end of last week, Doom Eternal's upgrade for PC and next generation consoles is an important relea…
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Armorian
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Uh...
Doom Eternal's next-gen patch tested on PS5 and Xbox Series consoles
Released at the tail-end of last week, Doom Eternal's upgrade for PC and next generation consoles is an important relea…
Yeah, looks like RDNA1 with RT after all. I wonder about mesh shaders but chance that PS5 supports it om hardware level are slim. But... it has geometry engine and this shit has some custom elements not present on RDNA2 PC parts? It's confusing...
MasterCornholio
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Uh...
Doom Eternal's next-gen patch tested on PS5 and Xbox Series consoles
Released at the tail-end of last week, Doom Eternal's upgrade for PC and next generation consoles is an important relea…
Even without it games don't look like trash on the PS5. Pretty impressed with how well it's keeping up with the XSX. Certainly not the console that I had in mind when the first rumors hit.
Md Ray
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Loading times are 2x faster than SX (4 sec vs 8 sec). No mention of game sizes, 3D audio, or DualSense features support.
DenchDeckard
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Well it only took 9 months but we have the first game and confirmation that the ps5 doesn't have VRS 2 and therefore is missing RDNA 2 feature set.
Its a shame because it seems like vrs 2 could really help next gen psvr to deliver higher resolutions and performance for the headset.
Is there a chance that the quality of vrs can improve even more? It could be interesting.
Also, pretty crazy that John mentions that the resolution is noticeable.
Ultimately the game is amazing 9n all platforms and id software continue to be qizards who push these boxes exactly how you would expect it. Up to 30 percent more res on xbox with vrs and twice as fast load times on the ps5.
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MasterCornholio
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Uh...
Doom Eternal's next-gen patch tested on PS5 and Xbox Series consoles
Released at the tail-end of last week, Doom Eternal's upgrade for PC and next generation consoles is an important relea…
Even without it games don't look like trash on the PS5. Pretty impressed with how well it's keeping up with the XSX. Certainly not the console that I had in mind when the first rumors hIt.
But it's not RDNA1 with RT.
I Love Rock 'n' Roll
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Again! But why?
Md Ray
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More like RDNA 2 with RT but without tier 2 VRS support on the hardware level.
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MasterCornholio
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Pretty much otherwise AMD wouldn't have sold the PS5 as an RDNA2 system.
Venom Snake
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I am not an expert so i do not fully understand the point of VRS in Doom. If it produces the same framerate at a higher resolution, but at the expense of image quality, what is the point of it?
I mean, i would use something like this on a weaker machine and not the other way around..
I mean, i would use something like this on a weaker machine and not the other way around..
Armorian
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"Additional features confirmed by AMD include real-time, hardware accelerated ray tracing, Infinity Cache™, mesh shaders, sampler feedback and variable rate shading."
Infinity cache aside we know Xbox uses RDNA2 with all this features, but for PS5 only RT is present and confirmed.
Md Ray
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The GPU clock speed is also another hint.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
I don't recall anyone saying anything about the PS5 looking like 'trash' man. Where did you hear that?
What is against some early rumors was that XSS not having more TF would prevent it from running games well. John pointed out that both the PS4 Pro and the XSS have 4 TF but there is no way that the PS4 Pro would run Doom Eternal at 120 fps. It might be time to just acknowledge that the XSS is every bit the current gen device it was billed as and comparisons to the Switch and PS4 should have never been a thing.
I'm really impressed with this title and I'm looking forward to what ID can do for XGS seeing how they're now first party.
MasterCornholio
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So how is it RDNA1?
MasterCornholio
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Why can't I be happy it doesn't look like trash on the PS5?
It's why im relieved at how good games look on the PS5.
mansoor1980
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xsx has reduced detail , vrs2 in action
Skifi28
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Does no infinity cache make the XsX GPU RDNA 1.8? Who decides how many points are deducted per feature lost? It's a silly argument as a GPU architecture is more than the additional features it supports. You could remove all RDNA2 features including RT and it still wouldn't be RDNA1 as clock for clock it would have better IPC and thermals while being able to reach much higher clocks.It doesn't have all the things that makes RDNA2... RDNA2
It's RDNA1 with RT and come custom Sony/AMD parts - so let's call it RDNA1.5?
It was like this I think:
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Armorian
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SlimySnake
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This was confirmed by the Metro devs. PS5 GPU does not have hardware support for VRS. Software only.Uh...
Doom Eternal's next-gen patch tested on PS5 and Xbox Series consoles
Released at the tail-end of last week, Doom Eternal's upgrade for PC and next generation consoles is an important relea…
Md Ray
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Mesh shaders could be primitive shaders, sampler feedback could be present too, under a different name. Why are we having these silly RDNA 1 discussions again?
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mansoor1980
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its just like dynamic res , lower some graphical detail to get more fps , strange that a 12TF console would need that
Armorian
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IPC difference is actually non existent
PS5 has custom RDNA2 just like Cerny said - custom enough that only part of it that is from RDNA2 is hardware accelerated RT
BigLee74
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Yeah, you see that would be true if the whole image was like that all the time, not when it’s calculated unimportant small areas of the screen that are generally post-processed to buggery in normal gameplay anyway.
DigitalScrap
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I’mExpected Khaled. Got Khaled.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
The Perf per watt gains are also only possible on RDNA 2.0 GPUs. The RDNA 1.0 36 CU GPUs cannot even come close to hitting 2.23 ghz let alone hit them in a console TDP.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
UE5's nanite system is using mesh technology. Both the PS5 and XSX target the same 1440p 30 fps resolution on high lumen settings and 1080p 30 fps on epic settings.
If there was a gigantic performance difference between Primitive Shaders and Mesh Shaders, the xsx would be targeting higher resolutions.
MasterCornholio
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It doesn't have all the things that makes RDNA2... RDNA2
It's RDNA1 with RT and come custom Sony/AMD parts - so let's call it RDNA1.5?
It was like this I think:
Let's call it what AMD calls it.
Andodalf
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I am not an expert so i do not fully understand the point of VRS in Doom. If it produces the same framerate at a higher resolution, but at the expense of image quality, what is the point of it?
I mean, i would use something like this on a weaker machine and not the other way around..
it hardware which makes it so that it can, for free, reduce rending quality in areas of the screen that don’t matter, to increase res where it does. It’s a straight benefit overall.
DenchDeckard
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Why would a games console that has unified shared memory for the gpu and cpu have an infinity cache.
Both consoles have an infinity cache in theory. Around 12 to 13.5gb each.