Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
The irony supreme is that a very well optimised game does not need VRR, so he is celebrating lack of optimisation on top
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DF: Elden Ring Back-Compat - Xbox Series X Running One X Code Can't Hit 60FPS
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Fess
Member
lol not selling anything but I looked up the TV. Didn’t know gsync was a thing outside of PC monitors. Very interesting!
It’s too big for that desk though but I realize I should definitely start looking for an upgrade. A better screen/TV plus a comfy chair could get me in a better mood. I don’t want the PC in the living room though, way too noisy.
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sircaw
Banned
and for the 99% of people that don't own vrr sets what is the best way for them to play?I see the blue boys are thoroughly celebrating a game being badly optimized for Xbox. Very cringe tbh. VRR still makes it by far the best version to play though
Dr Bass
Member
The XSX has a better GPU. Yeah you can make some arguments about the speed rating of the PS5s SoC vs XSX, but still ... the XSX has a better GPU basically.
And yes, a lot of this comes down to software craftsmanship. Which is where Sony currently shines. Their studios are firing on all cylinders, and that's the hurdle Xbox and their now large portfolio of first party studios need to overcome to match what Sony's output has been. Obviously they have talent in in places like Playground Games, but it will be awhile before they have the kind of technical excellence across the board the way Sony seems to. There is only so much talent in the industry and Sony has been obviously fostering their studio development for so long ... again, not a flip you can switch.
The point is these kinds of "gotchas" are just dumb. I don't understand the point of this thread (among some others that seem to be "gotchas" in the other direction). Sonys dev environment might be better and able to squeeze more juice out of the system easily. No I don't think MS is waiting on magical "tools", but again craftsmanship matters, and Sony has been doing a good job at this for a long time, while MS is constantly changing dev strategies it seems like. And yet things are still pretty close to neck and neck, which is what was predicted by a lot of us when these things were announced.
Point is .. both machines are fantastic. One isn't great while the other sucks. They are both fantastic. Can that sink in for everyone please? It just all comes down to how well the devs can execute. Some will be better than others. And the Xbox will continue to get killer exclusive games just as PS and the Switch will.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Yeah agreed. Not making excuses for this, but they probably assumed it wouldn’t sell well on XBOX, so they just ported it over without much optimization perhaps? The same reason Tekken 7 is still running at 720p on the One X for example.
Barakov
Member
Bernd Lauert
Banned
sircaw
Banned
PC on a VRR monitor.
JetBlackPanda
Member
Series X with VRR and a TV that supports it is butter smooth.
MastAndo
Member
Continually disappointed with the performance of this on XSX. It's particularly upsetting because it's becoming one of my favorite games ever and I would love to experience it at a locked 60 fps. More technically impressive games have done it, so it's a real head scratcher.
Every time I boot the game, I hope to see an update, but I know that's not likely to happen.
Every time I boot the game, I hope to see an update, but I know that's not likely to happen.
Ezquimacore
Banned
The PC version is trash too. From Software and Team Ninja sure know how to make trash ports.
JetBlackPanda
Member
Team Andromeda
Member
Utter drivel from DF, still it proves you can play Xbox games offline *rollseyes*
nowhat
Member
I blame the tools (and that includes you!)We certainly don't see the 18% more compute performance delivered in most games. I blame DX12 overhead
Mr Moose
Member
They set it to offline so SmartDelivery doesn't kick in.
What's Guardians of the Galaxy got to do with Elden Ring?
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
Swift_Star
Banned
I wonder what your tune is gonna change into once VRR is delivered on ps5. We all know you’re just championing this feature because it’s available only on Xbox.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
I like silky smooth gameplay, sue me
Chukhopops
Member
You know tons of devices use variable refresh rate screens including watches, smartphones, laptops and of course computer monitors? And that those devices use it because it’s simply superior and more versatile than fixed refresh rates?
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Ah yes I've been drinking because I think it's ridiculous to blame MS for a game they didn't develop running inexcusably poorly on their system. Do you happen to have any proof of MS demanding higher resolutions in this game that just so happens to run at the exact same res on XSX and PS5? Your 'it's been said' statement isn't fantastic evidence.
I'm certain MS is also to blame for the game loading at similar speeds on PS4 and X Series consoles.
There is nothing wrong with simply acknowledging the reality that From took far more care developing this game on PlayStation over other platforms. The results are evident. To blame MS is absurd.
SLB1904
Banned
Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true.I like silky smooth gameplay, sue me
Just assume you got bamboozled by the social media warriors.
Where is your 2tf god now?
The better Ray tracing at least 40fps difference
What happened with the cus? I remember that was a buzzword you guys love it as well.
Now clinging into vrr aka gsync like its your savior
Bernd Lauert
Banned
I get it, you're still hurt from the 9 TF RDNA 1.5 FUD. Still doesn't change the fact that VRR is a godsend, especially in unoptimized games like Elden Ring.Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true.
Just assume you got bamboozled by the social media warriors.
Where is your 2tf god now?
The better Ray tracing at least 40fps difference
What happened with the cus? I remember that was a buzzword you guys love it as well.
Now clinging into vrr aka gsync like its your savior
Mr Moose
Member
Ah yes I've been drinking because I think it's ridiculous to blame MS for a game they didn't develop running inexcusably poorly on their system. Do you happen to have any proof of MS demanding higher resolutions in this game that just so happens to run at the exact same res on XSX and PS5? Your 'it's been said' statement isn't fantastic evidence.
I'm certain MS is also to blame for the game loading at similar speeds on PS4 and X Series consoles.
Performance Analysis: Diablo 3 at 1080p on Xbox One
So how does Xbox One handle an additional 44 per cent of resolution?
www.eurogamer.net
+ Desiny.
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SLB1904
Banned
FrankWza
Member
You guys should chip in and buy df a better tv because jl said he still feels the drops to the 40s.
AutumnLeaves
Member
"godsend"
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Best way to play according to DF. Need to get me a VRR set.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Can’t believe being against VRR is even a console warrior defense point in 2022. I thought it was made abundantly clear since Gsync in (checks note), freaking 2014 that it’s the best solution for gaming with reduced tearing. 8 years we know it’s the best display tech to have.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Amen.
Buying a VRR display to complement the new console was a great decision for me.
A bit of a shame that PS5 owners will only be able to utilize it via somewhat expensive TVs. Xbox owners have the additional benefit of being able to use much more reasonably priced Freesync displays to get the same effect.
SLB1904
Banned
no one is against vrr, the problem is there is a lot of misleading information being spread around, actually look at the post above mine.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
And what's misleading in the post above yours, exactly ?
I collect VHS tapes
Member
it's phenomenal. I read the posts about people bitching about performance on PC and PS5 and I really can't relate at all. the game is smooth as fuck on the xsx with VRR.
why the fuck doesn't Sony have VRR on the PS5? it seems like a no brainer. it's fucking amazing.
SLB1904
Banned
do you think people would give up of 4k gaming for a freesync display just because of vrr?
lol
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You realize 4K Freesync monitors exist right ?
I would know because I have one. My SX, PS4 Pro and PC are hooked up to a 32 '' 4K monitor with Freesync.
You don't *have* to post just for posting sake if it's just gonna be uninformed stuff.
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SLB1904
Banned
i own one, and it wasnt cheap.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Sure, but compared to HDMI 2.1 TVs that aren't those chinese Hisense crap, it's cheaper.
Nothing in my post was misleading. Let's not start slandering other people because of other fundamental differences.
It's been a long time coming, once it finally goes live I expect a change in tone about it here lol.
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Sega Orphan
Banned
Froms game engine is a mess. It has been for along time. They should just lease the RE engine from Capcom and be done with it.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
It has absolutely terrible performance on PS5 too, so I dunno. I guess it's even worse on Xbox and PC, but yeah, they are just not very skilled developers.
Portugeezer
Member
It adds to the mystique of the game.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
How is it worst on pc? Performance is definitely wayyyy better on pc for me than on ps5. Even with it in performance mode.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Well, the shader compilation freezes etc. PS5 doesn't have that at least. But it does drop to like 45fps in heavier fights, and never ever runs at a smooth 60. Ah well.
Pedro Motta
Member
This is such a bullshit lol.I like silky smooth gameplay, sue me
Captain Toad
Banned
Even if you DO have VRR, you have to deal with over three times as long loading on Series X.
The best way to play is the PS4 version on PS5. Period.
Bernd Lauert
won't admit it, but he knows this.