Yeah, I don't think the Sony fans are on kool aid.
Hopefully they have at least learned not to listen to Penello
DF are hardly infallible, I remember they interviewed Albert Penello about the OG gimp console the XBO and did not contest his lies. They just published them verbatim spreading FUD about the PS4 vs XBO situation. Their attitude about mid gen refreshes like XSX and XOX compared to their attitude towards a hypothetical PS5 pro also reveals their slant.
Yes because this thread is full of big mad spergs ready to burn down DF for their reasonable comments. Sprinkle a bit of smug and downplaying of PC on top. It is a shit show.
Lol they're backtracking on the FUD they were spreading pre-launch and they're rightfully being called out on it.
I honestly don't think they are backtracking at all. Their latest comments on DF direct is all about forced parity, 'strangeness' and XSX technical superiority. All about teraflops and CUs and how 'the additional power' is possibly "evaporating due to DRS". They have yet to mention or emphasize a single PS5 GPU advantage, a single metric. I personally think they are as clueless and shameless as in 2020. "We still really don't know why..." Really Richard? If you are that freaking clueless and thick headed find another job, it's never too late.
Definitely that. Cyberpunk's regular RT is like 1 bounce and 1 sample and demolishes something such as a 3080 that has what, 2.5-3x the ray tracing performance of a PS5? And Cerny probably did this tour in 2018-2019 where the most powerful GPU was the 2080 Ti. Everyone, even consumers, rightfully realized that viable ray tracing on consoles was still a decade away.
I'm not big on RT personally but I did find it transformative on games like Spider-man and Metro Exodus.
It's really kind of sad that ballersgate 3 couldn't release because the co-op would not perform adequately on the series s... If only you could at least get the 15 frames per second split screen gets on the PS5
As I read this post....imagine how bad it must be on the Series S.....
Read your post tho...its not demonizing, its facts.
Yes and I think Sony will outshine Xbox on the first party front, because Xbox has so much on their plate with the day-and-date releases on Series X, Series S and PC. Sony can't even manage a proper release on PC after a few years. The PC market is a whole different beast.
Yes DF in their video that developers just don't care about Xbox and they use DX12 code for Xbox just like they use it on PC and call it a day. However, Alex said by doing this developers are missing tons of Xbox API features.
I think they mean that Xbox is not worth of their time. So it is quite opposite, where developers second priority is PC than comes Xbox.
Nice looks like we have found Bugaga's alt. PS5 is not faster at some random task genius, it is 22% faster at putting pixels on the screen. Do you even understand how GPUs work? And again XBSX is not objectively more powerful than the PS5, no amount of repeating that lie is gonna make it stick.
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That’s not downplaying pcs, that’s downplaying path tracing. I mentioned that i did the comparisons myself in that post you dared not quote because it had context that im a PC gamer myself. Very lame.
What utter bullshit that man talks.
But MS has. Whole eco system to take care of. Unlike Sony, which only has a PlayStation. And you kinda see it happen to their PC ports which most of the time are in need of patches and what not .. that’s what happens when developing for multiple systems .. and those are just year later ports .
So you disagree with Alex too, good to know. No need for your anti sony drivel.
LOL. What's a dump argument is using XBO X vs Pro as a reference.
It’s no Anti Sony drivel at all, it has the has to do with maintaining multiple systems. It’s a prime example of MS bashing to be honest, and totally unnecessary. It’s only used by me to get my point across, as both Nintendo and Sony don’t really operate this way (yet)
So when Hellblade2 will inevitably not live up to the hype, it's because they didn’t tap into Series X full potential?
You perfectly know what ray tracing does to indirect lighting, so why are you acting as if you didn't? You're standing outside, seemingly at night time. The indirect lighting differences will be at their biggest in sections where sunlight cannot penetrate directly.
I have no crystal ball! You ?
No need. You can quote me on it.
Guess who is at fault even in your scenario? No… it is not the consumers… they did not force the XDK to GDK transition, they did not setup a scenario where the XSX too console is only 25% or less of the target audience, and they are the ones responsible for the “tools”… but hey, thanks for coming around that supporting a wide variety of HW with a single stack leads to difficult to optimise for scenarios / underutilisation (not just flicking switch easy eh
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Amazing comparison, you should really apply at DF. They should be ready to hire you considering people in this thread have convinced me how useless they are.That’s not downplaying pcs, that’s downplaying path tracing. I mentioned that i did the comparisons myself in that post you dared not quote because it had context that im a PC gamer myself. Very lame.
Here are some comparisons. If the difference is staggering then we need to change the dictionary.
The pics are offscreen because i wanted to capture them in hdr. I have dozens of on screen comparisons If you are not convinced. If you go by cherry picked comparisons by a known path tracing shill like Alex then you will be misled. Play the game, turn off path tracing on and off, capture some footage and 99% of the time it won’t be massive or staggering or whatever DF said to big up path tracing.
What do you mean "it's faster at 'placing' pixels on the screen?" Is the Xbox One S 11% faster at "placing pixels on the screen" because it has a higher clock frequency?
So just to be clear, the narrative is when PS5 performs better, it means devs messed up the XSX version. And when XSX performs better, everything is as it should be?LOL. What's a dump argument is using XBO X vs Pro as a reference.
In that case the hardware differences were stratospheric compared to those of PS5 vs XSX. The funniest? Even so, they have a lot of cases where the Pro version was on par with the XBO X or even several cases being the superior version.
The fact is that the XBO X vs PS4Pro comparison would serve as a basis to defend against your argument. Not only that there were many cases where the PRo version was equal to or even better than the XBO, the situation is that there are even more cases where the XBO X seems poorly optimized with bugs, Or worse graphic assets, or worse framerate when the resolution could be 2x that of Pro where you had a much more coherent and polished version.
Returning to the PS5 vs XSX comparison. I'm sorry, but what comrade Vergil describes are only facts, even if you don't want to see them and react by insulting arguments that make sense.
The funniest thing of all is that you go, for example, to the A Plague Tale Requiem comparison thread and you see a case with significant differences in favor of XSX and the general opinion was that "they have optimized it better for XsX" or the PS5 version should be better optimized. Which would have its logic, but it seems that this excuse only works in one direction for you
There is no dump argument in defending that the Studios are more interested in offering the most polished version in the one that will be the one that will dictate the reactions of the media and users in the vast majority. A PS5 version significantly worse than that of XsX produces discomfort and negativity at a game launch. The opposite not so much.
The number of times that the XSX version has been fixed in later patches and in many cases even to be the best version is already an indication that its optimization at launch was not the best.
It would be perfectly logical to think that, given an equality of hardware power such as that shown by both consoles, the Studios will "relax" with a respectable or "on par" XsX version (that is, slightly better, slightly worse or the same as that of PS5).
I already told you that if XSX were less powerful than Ps5, with 70% fewer units on the market and and distributing optimization time with XSS, the differences in favor of PS5 would be more significant in the vast majority of cases vs the general equality (We could say extreme equality) that you see today.
