I agree with Jaffe here.
They uglyfied her even more compared to the real life model, her transformation into a young wayne rooney is almost complete.
By the third game i expect for her to look like this
Tell that to guerrilla, maybe they are manchester united fanboys...
Don't forget sylens, he is the smartest character in the game and who in the end get the real W.On the one hand, yes that was the story.
On the other hand, the Nora are a group of tribals led by women (matriarchs). At the start of the game you're thinking that it'll be quite feminist-preachy in this regard and that the tribe will be a utopia, but the matriarchs are shown to be utter fucking morons and Aloy basically rejects them and their idiocy. The person who made her into a hero is her "dad". The smartest and most competent person in the game by miles (who rescues Aloy on the equivalent of a white fucking horse, lol) is a guy.
So the negative depictions weren't all just one way.
I thought the only really "woke" part of the story was the rainbow coalition that the savage tribes were. After all those years after zero dawn it would just be a bunch of mixed race people. They were clearly trying too hard to display diversity there. Add that to the terrible facial animations and the dialogue in early parts of the game was pretty jarring.
Lol what a coincidence, so you are hated by 2 categories of people who enjoy the green color...I'm a serious meat-eater, cow/camel/goat milk drinker, bad cholesterol consumer. Vegans hate me.
Lol what a coincidence, so you are hated by 2 categories of people who enjoy the green color...
I agree with Jaffe here.
Not sure if you got my joke...I hate vegans, they kill my food's food.
He is pretty woke if i remember well, of course he white knight against uglyfication of videogame characters and childish gamers...I get what he’s trying to say but he’s rambling. He starts off by saying she’s not real, you’re not taking her home to fuck, it’s a game. Then he says it’s offensive to talk about the reason why she looks bigger.
If you’re disconnecting to the point of saying she’s just polygons, then why is any talk about how those polygons are angled offensive?
My thinking;
1. You either don’t care about gaming characters weight, looks, sexualization, representation, etc etc. Because nothing is real. You could literally run around with a fork or an apple instead. It’s just a game. Nothing is real. It’s polygons. It’s literally nothing but a bunch of triangels that animators and coders has programmed to be placed and moved in a specific way. Nothing else.
Why would you care about anything regarding those triangles?
This △ is Aloy.
2. Or you do care about gaming characters looks, how they behave, what they represent, what their life story is and all that. Because devs are trying to make them look and behave like a real person and tries to make us care, tries to make us love their looks, respect their life choices and care about their stories etc, even cry for them in certain games.
What kind of gamer are you? 1 or 2?
I’m in group 2. Which is why I think it’s a valid explanation that it’s the camera angle plus a concerned look on her face that makes her look bigger. Which is also why I think she looks nice in general but could be prettier since I’m a simple soul who enjoy to look at pretty women. Which is also why I’m annoyed at the human fights since I would love to play this with my kids but looking at people dying would be too much for the little ones.
Not sure if you got my joke...
Vegans and xboys...cmon bo, that was an easy one...Not sure if you're talking about Vegans + Aloy's green panty or something else.
I agree with Jaffe here.
I agree with Jaffe here.
Well she does look like a toy.Holy shit we have now surpassed Toy Story no doubt.
Are you on drugs?Also sex is the most important thing in life, but shouldn't be related to everything in life.
This thread smells like virginity
Are you on drugs?
Can’t relate to any woke thing, I live near the north pole, but one part of the rant is a classic it’s not just pixels concern about how we talk about overweight people while the other is a classic it’s just pixels rant about masturbating to triangles.He is pretty woke if i remember well, of course he white knight against uglyfication of videogame characters and childish gamers...
An hypocrite since his games were far more juvenile with kratos fucking women as a minigame, the guy doesn't fool anyone.
It is nice and all, but far from „the most important thing“Isn't it? Why live if not? To me at least it's the peak of joy and happiness.
It is nice and all, but far from „the most important thing“
Also, the speed in which you react and reply to every post seemingly anytime during the day makes me think GAF is the 2nd most important thing in life for you.
I bet you surf GAF after the act.FTFY
I bet you surf GAF after the act.
Now i see why it means so much to you. You are a starved man.Not if the little devil is awake, kicking my head from the bed behind me and throwing shit around and my wife chasing her around. The golden hour is usually after she sleeps, which you might mean you've already reached your limits.
I agree with Jaffe here.
I get your point here but to be honest....we all DO make judgements based on appearance every day. It's even in our language and speech patterns- 'What LOOKS GOOD to eat today?' It's also long established in the social sciences that people make immediate and unconscious judgements based on appearances and things like attractiveness. It's just biology and how we're wired. Now, you can be a 'pig' and base decisions consistently on conscious judgements you make, leaving them at a shallow level, or you can be more mature and avoid that. But those built in judgements and biases ARE there. Denying them does you no good. In fact, it's better to keep your eyes open to them and do some self analysis to make sure you're not losing balance and becoming more shallow in your decision making.I see Reddit is terribly upset this topic is being raised. They're downvoting every comment on the thread to hell. Hilarious.
Don't let people convince you there's anything wrong with commenting on the looks of characters in video games, or movies or TV for that matter. It's art, so it basically boils down to a matter of aesthetics and taste - and human beings have judged art in this way since art began. It's got nothing to do with how people are viewed in real life.
I think it’s a camera angle and face anim thing. But I agree on the overall idea of your post. Same thing no matter if it’s a man or woman, whenever I get to create my own character I always end up with a spectacular hunk of a man or a pretty curvy woman. Even my Khajiit in Skyrim was hawt lolContrary to what people like Druckmann think games are still being made primarily to have FUN and relax while playing them. And a part of that fun goes away if the main character you'll spend 100 hours with was intentionally made uglier than the character from the first game. It's just how most people work. You'll want to spend your free time with someone attractive or simply nice to look at, not necessarily with someone who isn't.
I haven't seen anyone here at least saying they can't relate with ANY character because it's "different from the Victoria's Secret models." Perhaps you can point that out? Your little straw man isn't even worth setting aflame though. Anyone claiming the whole 'woke' thing is a conspiracy theory is either stupid or willfully ignorant. But keep trying to score those points, man. You'll get tired of it sooner or later.I personally like tits and boobs in videogames, but I really don't understand why some people can't relate with anything different from the Victoria's Secret models. It is juvenile in the very meaning.
Every time I read "because the agenda/the wokes" I feel like the conspiracy theorists with the BigPharma/Illuminati.
See? Eggplant. I hope she recovers from that dentist treatment for when FW is out.shes good ..when serious
but then when talks
You are talking out of your butthole, sir. I LITERALLY just tweeted out THIS last night:He is pretty woke if i remember well, of course he white knight against uglyfication of videogame characters and childish gamers...
An hypocrite since his games were far more juvenile with kratos fucking women as a minigame, that thing partially created the type of gamer that he "hates" so much, the guy doesn't fool anyone like the majority of fake wokes.
Again, you're conflating how we should treat and judge people in real life, versus how we should view fictional characters in art. Those two aren't the same thing. It's perfectly fine to want an attractive lead for a game or a movie, while understanding you shouldn't judge people for being unattractive in real life.I get your point here but to be honest....we all DO make judgements based on appearance every day. It's even in our language and speech patterns- 'What LOOKS GOOD to eat today?' It's also long established in the social sciences that people make immediate and unconscious judgements based on appearances and things like attractiveness. It's just biology and how we're wired. Now, you can be a 'pig' and base decisions consistently on conscious judgements you make, leaving them at a shallow level, or you can be more mature and avoid that. But those built in judgements and biases ARE there. Denying them does you no good. In fact, it's better to keep your eyes open to them and do some self analysis to make sure you're not losing balance and becoming more shallow in your decision making.
First of all, i don't follow twitter, i don't even have the app on my phone, i just follow the news here in the forum, so that's on me i guess...You are talking out of your butthole, sir. I LITERALLY just tweeted out THIS last night:
And less than a month ago I joined the creative supervisory board of MOVIE GAMES after playing their game called LUST FROM BEYOND, an AO horror sex game that has all sorts of shit, much of it more explicit than this scene from the game:
I joined the company because I thought this game was cool and unique and very fun.
So again, you don't know what you're talking about.
I got NOTHING against sexy games.
I LIKE sexy games.
But just because a woman is in a game doesn't make it a sexy game.
Horizon is clearly NOT trying to be a masterbatory fantasy for you, pal. There's lots of games- and other things- on the net you can find to get your rocks off. Horizon clearly ain't supposed to be that.
Horizon is clearly NOT trying to be a masterbatory fantasy for you, pal. There's lots of games- and other things- on the net you can find to get your rocks off. Horizon clearly ain't supposed to be that.
How pretty she got thank you GG
The facial expressions are indeed vastly improved. It’s what I was the most impressed by. Feels like watching real conversations when she talks to someone.Pretty sure they've slightly changed the structure of her face to allow for more detailed animations. I totally felt her face was off too but then saw the vastly improved lip sync and expressions I realised that's why.
It's the same for the NPCs too, including the returning character .