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GDC: "Taking an Axe to God of War Gameplay" | Deep dive into GoW Combat
Skifi28
Gold Member
More edgy than the leviathan axe.
Vick
Member
Yes 100%
dcmk7
Banned
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
But this is basically a drive-by shit post, you had no intention of contributing to the thread.
Entroyp
Member
Waiting for E3. Ain’t that funny.
MasterCornholio
Member
I actually thought the game was really good.
driqe
Member
The final gameplay is very bad. They should've zoomed the camera out more. Just spreading facts here
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MasterCornholio
Member
What are the facts?
driqe
Member
I agree
MasterCornholio
Member
Hey I would really love that.
kretos
Banned
Every indie game on xbox launching into game pass day 1 RIP SON AND NINENDOR
driqe
Member
Bartski
Gold Member
great God of War core gameplay and combat systems design GDC talk
Yesterday GDC published this great talk from 2019 by Jason McDonald (now Design Director at Sony Santa Monica, was the Lead Gameplay Designer on God of War 2018) about the development of core gameplay systems in the last God of War. Focused on combat mechanics and re-discovering some key...
great talk anyway, much recommended.
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That he has no clue what he is talking about? Don't feed the troll by engaging him.
Whitecrow
Banned
I like the game but also think is pretty overrated.
-The 30 fps doesnt do the franchise any favour.
-The story is all over the place. Too much lore to read and too many incognites. Previous entries were a lot more self-concluding.
-Not sure if we needed a The Last of War. The essence was lost in favour of another emotional tryhard.
-The epicity was also kinda lost. Yes the game has its moments, but pales in comparison to other entries.
-The music didnt help to make the game stand out either.
-The gameplay? Fine.
-The 30 fps doesnt do the franchise any favour.
-The story is all over the place. Too much lore to read and too many incognites. Previous entries were a lot more self-concluding.
-Not sure if we needed a The Last of War. The essence was lost in favour of another emotional tryhard.
-The epicity was also kinda lost. Yes the game has its moments, but pales in comparison to other entries.
-The music didnt help to make the game stand out either.
-The gameplay? Fine.
driqe
Member
Seems like every different opinion around here is trolling
Vick
Member
This game is made by the same people who made you play as Kratos being the size of a literal pixel in previous games. If an incresed FOV would have benefited the game, don't you think would be there already?
They addressed the reason for their choices.
Crap, sorry. I even searched for it.great God of War core gameplay and combat systems design GDC talk
Yesterday GDC published this great talk from 2019 by Jason McDonald (now Design Director at Sony Santa Monica, was the Lead Gameplay Designer on God of War 2018) about the development of core gameplay systems in the last God of War. Focused on combat mechanics and re-discovering some key...www.neogaf.com
great talk anyway, much recommended.
dcmk7
Banned
Come into a thread for a game you don't care about, with no interest in contributing in any meaningful way.. but despite all that you still felt the need to say this:
And that's not trolling? Ok.
Vick
Member
If it really was, wouldn't that be reflected by users reception?
Which game is the one true king of the Playstation 4? which exclusive stands above the peasantry?
You got 4 votes, it's better that way, it makes for a better picture of the true crowd consensus. Let's see who is considered the crown achievement of the Playstation 4. I am estimating the sales based on either official numbers or if there is none, my own guess. 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim...
The game ran unlocked just like previous games. They never were full 60fps and Ascension, the one immediately before, was a bordeline 30fps title.
On PS5 God of War is locked 60.
Again, they were not. Most of them always ended in a cliffhanger, and you're not forced to read any lore. Also, i think anyone on the planet would agree with the story being on a whole different level compared to what was done before in the series.
It made a stagnant franchise relevant again and was met with universal love, apparently we needed it.
I can agree in regards to grand scale spectacle. But, to be fair, basically any game pales in comparison to other God of War entries when it comes to that.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I think it would have made a comeback eventually, but I was beginning to lose interest in god of war fast. This game stopped that from happening, and now I've never been more excited about it.
SLB1904
Banned
The music part is funnyIf it really was, wouldn't that be reflected by users reception?
Which game is the one true king of the Playstation 4? which exclusive stands above the peasantry?
You got 4 votes, it's better that way, it makes for a better picture of the true crowd consensus. Let's see who is considered the crown achievement of the Playstation 4. I am estimating the sales based on either official numbers or if there is none, my own guess. 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim...
The game ran unlocked just like previous games. They never were full 60fps and Ascension, the one immediately before, was a bordeline 30fps title.
On PS5 God of War is locked 60.
Again, they were not. Most of them always ended in a cliffhanger, and you're not forced to read any lore. Also, i think anyone on the planet would agree with the story being on a whole different level compared to what was done before in the series.
It made a stagnant franchise relevant again and was met with universal love, apparently we needed it.
I can agree in regards to grand scale spectacle. But, to be fair, basically any game pales in comparison to other God of War entries when it comes to that.
Buddy there is a 60fps mode.
The story is amazing especially on a second playthrough where a lot more makes sense. The gameplay is great too.
It's an all round amazing game.
Rick Dangerous
Member
Well, for me god of war 2018 was a real let down compared to gow3 (I skipped ascension due to mixed reviews).
Where is my hades fight ? My Poseidon fight ?
And I'm not trolling (check my post history).
Where is my hades fight ? My Poseidon fight ?
And I'm not trolling (check my post history).
MasterCornholio
Member
In another mythology.
Krappadizzle
Member
Amazing game and it's combat really struck that nice balance where it was very cinematic and fun to use, while still offering a good challenge. I remember starting it on hard and getting my ass handed to my by literally the very first small group of enemies you encounter. Took me a minute to readjust and realize that it wasn't the button mashing slaughter-fest of the previous games and it was more of a focused, precise slaughter-fest more akin to Dark Souls than previous entries and once I embraced that I was hooked.
Really a stand-out title on the PS4 and a fucking super feather in the cap for Sony in general. It's been a crazy consistently good series across 3 different generations and reinvented itself in a very solid way with it's PS4 release. Can't wait to see what they have in store for the future as SSM really have a great grasp on what can make a stellar GoW game.
Really a stand-out title on the PS4 and a fucking super feather in the cap for Sony in general. It's been a crazy consistently good series across 3 different generations and reinvented itself in a very solid way with it's PS4 release. Can't wait to see what they have in store for the future as SSM really have a great grasp on what can make a stellar GoW game.
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GHG
Gold Member
It's a ritual at this point.
Phil Spencer 29:11
“‘For I know the plans I have for E3’ declares the Lord, ‘plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.”
ItsTheNew
I believe any game made before 1997 is "essentially cave man art."
The combat was honestly one of the worst aspects for this game. They've had three years since release to come up with excuses why they went with such a narrow field of view. The answer to that was for nicer graphics, less to render when you're just looking at the back of some sweaty dude.
And no, barlog did not code the combat. in fact most game developers don't even have time to play any contemporary titles which may explain why God of war 2018 had such poor combat.
And no, barlog did not code the combat. in fact most game developers don't even have time to play any contemporary titles which may explain why God of war 2018 had such poor combat.
Yeah, it needed forced shitty "cinematic" camera angles like its predecessors. Good times.
Nemesis Prime
Member
I only wish we could properly jump in this game
eastcoastkody
Member
pretty good vid. I like the stuff about getting the camera angle right. Love behind the scene things like that.
Never been a god of war guy. I played like an hour of the original and wasn't into it. Got convinced to play the new one. Loved it. One of my fave games of the decade. The axe gameplay just felt so good.
And i know its fun to hate Avengers....but the guy who did the Leviathan axe worked on Thors hammer for Avengers. And its so satisfying.
80% of the reason i got a PS5 is God of War Ragnarok
Never been a god of war guy. I played like an hour of the original and wasn't into it. Got convinced to play the new one. Loved it. One of my fave games of the decade. The axe gameplay just felt so good.
And i know its fun to hate Avengers....but the guy who did the Leviathan axe worked on Thors hammer for Avengers. And its so satisfying.
80% of the reason i got a PS5 is God of War Ragnarok
Danjin44
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skit_data
Member
Can’t wait to see the sequel. The end of the game shows Fimbulvinter so the next game will be really interesting as Ragnarök draws closer. Really looking forward to see how they will tie together the whole story, considering the reveal of Atreus identity and his ”true identity” role in Asatro
Edit: they need to give us more enemy variety, those organgutan bastards grew tiring
Edit: they need to give us more enemy variety, those organgutan bastards grew tiring
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Vick
Member
Such as? Genuinely curious.
It this another "camera should be further away" take, that would deprive the game of the visceral and intimate feel, main reason it's so special in the first place?
This entire combat system would simply not work with a different camera. I refuse to believe one could play the game and think a further camera would improve it when it's so obvious it would simply destroy it.
And this one only addresses basic combat. 80% of it is missing, between all runic, special, other weapons and Atreus attacks.
When people say this is the best combat ever, they're usually referring to what you can do by the end of the game, like in Musphelleim challenges.
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Kumomeme
Member
i has no issue with the camera. it still manageable. other stuff for example controlling Kratos is like controlling Joel. he is heavy. there is weight to his running..which is fine but on certain moment during combat, it demand player to be fast and react quickly and yet Kratos response can be 'slow'. also the enemy placement can be improved. instead of everyone gangbang mindlessly, they can atleast put formation, or have the monster spread out like in uncharted game. the monster also can have attacking form so player can know and anticipated what kind of move it gonna use + add whatever suitable attacking pattern with it. also sometimes i confused of Kratos' dodge box.
and hope they add more variation of monster with variation of moveset.
i didnt finished the game, but i dont have trouble with the combat. but this is some of area i believe can be improved. the combat is fun but never been perfect at first place. certainly has room to get better. not saying the combat is suck, it is 'solid' but it still has flaw and can be improved further.
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llien
Member
I sign that.
With blood of my enemies.
Nothing comes close to it, it is a true masterpiece.
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