kiphalfton
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... So when is twitter going to permanently go down again.
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People are posting sexual harassment and rape allegations on twitter rather than picking it up with the police, so a case like this is just small potatoes of the same idiotic mentality to wash your dirty laundry in public.Her tweets are terribly ill-conceived.
As an intern looking to make a career in this industry, does it really make sense to go to a very public platform like Twitter to cast SSM because they didn't credit your contribution?
By all means, take it up privately with the studio, but to go public?
I'd be surprised if she ever finds work again in this industry after this.
Holy shit, is this true?Alanah Pearce also didn’t make the cut for the credits. Lol.
Listen dickhead this lady felt strong enough about this to highlight her work on Twitter, because a big studio owned by Sony couldn't be arsed to credit her for her work. I know from your post you're not very bright but this guy would defend PS to his last dying breath, that's why he posted that bullshit, you know it, I know it and he definitely knows it.
Imagine working for one of the top studios, even if it's 4 months, make it to final product, and then you cant put that in your CV.
Come on. Everyone and their mother would be so pissed off.
There's fucking Yong Yea in the credits..
After all the people her grandpa killed she still have the guts to ask for anything...
Do I need to be credited to make it count? Weird procedure.Yes even moreso they should be credited, interns are doing this sort of work for their resume
not surprised considering the asshats over there, extremely disrespectful.
Exporting stems isn't even composition. It's literally checking a couple boxes on your DAW and clicking export.People still use Pro Tools...
This is what growing up with social media does to you - you cannot even imagine why you would NOT post this on Twitter.Her tweets are terribly ill-conceived.
As an intern looking to make a career in this industry, does it really make sense to go to a very public platform like Twitter to cast SSM because they didn't credit your contribution?
By all means, take it up privately with the studio, but to go public?
I'd be surprised if she ever finds work again in this industry after this.
Depends on how they are structured, this could've been as well end-of-uni placement in order to validate her 'internship' part of the curriculum. Also LOL on 'if she was hot shit she would've gotten the job' - you don't work, do you?Fucking sick and tired of this culture of participation trophies. If she was so shit-hot she'd probably been offered a position at SSM, that's kinda the premise of internships!
Literally not even remotely the same thing whatsoever in any way, shape, form, dimension, and or being.I'm going to the big bank building downtown and I'm telling everyone in the building I painted the window coverings on the building's face. The company I worked for has their logo on a plaque outside, but I don't see my name anywhere which isn't fair.
Projecting little kitten war angst.what asshats are you referring to?
Projecting little kitten war angst.
Bizarre how many people start lashing out when a successful exclusive is released.
Depends on how they are structured, this could've been as well end-of-uni placement in order to validate her 'internship' part of the curriculum. Also LOL on 'if she was hot shit she would've gotten the job' - you don't work, do you?
A certain crowd has been particularly volatile recently...
Here’s the deal about interns - they are slave labour, working at a much lower wage than the regular employees. If SM is not hiring then it will be dumb not to take an intern, make her work for a few month and then let go, no problem whatsoever.So no, it was never likely that she'd get picked up, but obviously from both the studio and intern's standpoint, discovering a tremendous (if raw) talent is the IDEAL outcome.
On the other hand if they proved not to be up to the desired standard...
Is that her real name?Alanah Pearce also didn’t make the cut for the credits. Lol.
Yeah, some more than others have been emotionally traumatized by this game. But I'm not going to name any names.
On an unrelated note, what happened here, I wonder.....
I tend to agree, but would also like to know the full context. Is it standard practice that interns are not included in credits? I would like to know, because right or wrong, it's the difference between this being something done wrong to her, or something no different than any other intern who's ever worked on a videogame in the last 35 years, and why would she get the visibility vs all those who have come before her, etc. I'd really like to know. Regardless of whether "interns should be in the credits" or not, her tweet does not have the full context.Some people are confused about game internships, my understanding is that it’s often a several month stint then it’s over and there’s no possibility of getting hired. We don’t know if she got paid at all, and seeing her own name in the credits might be the only tangible thing she gets to take away from the experience. Since it’s completely free for a company to credit every little contribution, there’s no reason not to, except that they probably just forgot. I don’t think going to twitter is a bad move, it seems like it actually got someone’s attention and got something done about it. It’s not like she was throwing a fit, she just wants credit for her work, which is really the minimum anyone deserves
If it's that important to her, just put the intern experience on her resume and if a future employee doubts her, just give details what she did there to convince them and ask for a manager reference to vouch for her.Some people are confused about game internships, my understanding is that it’s often a several month stint then it’s over and there’s no possibility of getting hired. We don’t know if she got paid at all, and seeing her own name in the credits might be the only tangible thing she gets to take away from the experience. Since it’s completely free for a company to credit every little contribution, there’s no reason not to, except that they probably just forgot. I don’t think going to twitter is a bad move, it seems like it actually got someone’s attention and got something done about it. It’s not like she was throwing a fit, she just wants credit for her work, which is really the minimum anyone deserves.
Yeah there’s conflicting info, there’s an ad for santa monica interns claiming you get your name in the credits, but she may have been working for a subcontractor/satellite studio, and she says she was told she didn’t meet the minimum criteria. What exactly are those criteria? I would like to know as well.I tend to agree, but would also like to know the full context. Is it standard practice that interns are not included in credits? I would like to know, because right or wrong, it's the difference between this being something done wrong to her, or something no different than any other intern who's ever worked on a videogame in the last 35 years, and why would she get the visibility vs all those who have come before her, etc. I'd really like to know. Her tweet does not have the full context.
I agree. And don't whine and complain that you're not included in something, despite acknowledging you don't even know for sure if you are supposed to be or not. Do something about it! Change it if you don't like it.If it's that important to her, just put the intern experience on her resume and if a future employee doubts her, just give details what she did there to convince them and ask for a manager reference to vouch for her.
That kind of process is only done by every other worker on Earth. It cant be that hard.
Having one's name publicly addressed on a product is pretty self centred to begin with. It might be the norm in most media, but if they forgot or if they thought her contribution isn't worth putting in the credits, then that's life.
I dont see at my work the VP of Marketing or Marketing Managers in charge of a product line forcing their credits in the About Us section of the brand's website. Nor have I ever saw R&D guys who are the ones who invented it in a lab asking either. That can be easily uploaded by the webmaster in 30 seconds at zero cost. Nor do I see any low level Marketing Assistants ask for public recognition either even though they are tasked with doing crappy admin and gopher jobs. Who gives a shit.
People working on creative media products give a shit, why have credits at all? Why not just say “sony” made it? Most industrys don’t have a credits roll as standard, this one does, so it’s silly that people keep comparing their job to this situation. Most people also get paid to perform their job, in this case the credit is far more valuable than the pay. It’s true her name probably doesn’t need to be in the actual credits in order to benefit from the experience, but I know I would want that credit and get the experience of being up there with the rest of the team and feeling like a real game developer instead of a throwaway intern.If it's that important to her, just put the intern experience on her resume and if a future employee doubts her, just give details what she did there to convince them and ask for a manager reference to vouch for her.
That kind of process is only done by every other worker on Earth. It cant be that hard.
Having one's name publicly addressed on a product is pretty self centred to begin with. It might be the norm in most media, but if they forgot or if they thought her contribution isn't worth putting in the credits, then that's life.
I dont see at my work the VP of Marketing or Marketing Managers in charge of a product line forcing their credits in the About Us section of the brand's website. Nor have I ever saw R&D guys who are the ones who invented it in a lab asking either. That can be easily uploaded by the webmaster in 30 seconds at zero cost. Nor do I see any low level Marketing Assistants ask for public recognition either even though they are tasked with doing crappy admin and gopher jobs. Who gives a shit.
I dont know. You tell me why media is the only industry in the world that has credits roll. And depending on the tv show, movie or game the list can be super long that goes on for 10 minutes or it can be a short snippet of only the key people.People working on creative media products give a shit, why have credits at all? Why not just say “sony” made it? Most industrys don’t have a credits roll as standard, this one does, so it’s silly that people keep comparing their job to this situation. Most people also get paid to perform their job, in this case the credit is far more valuable than the pay. It’s true her name probably doesn’t need to be in the actual credits in order to benefit from the experience, but I know I would want that credit and get the experience of being up there with the rest of the team and feeling like a real game developer instead of a throwaway intern.
Maybe they shouldI dont know. You tell me why media is the only industry in the world that has credits roll. And depending on the tv show, movie or game the list can be super long that goes on for 10 minutes or it can be a short snippet of only the key people.
A game will have an artist make cover art. Every other company has a person or team that designs the packaging art. Not just the artwork, but also within dimensions which are important. Along with that, the company has advertising that goes along with it that is creative too.
How come nobody gives a shit about having their name working on something, unless it's a media employee?
Maybe. If enough employees cry about it. But likely not needed as nobody gives a shit.Maybe they should