tommycronin
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Added emphasis on y to really hit home the racism.
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IGN: Resident Evil 5 simply can't be remade, at least not to the standards of Capcom's best work. So the answer is not to remake, but to rewrite.
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Neon Xenon
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Content aside: I like RE5. Quality-wise, I would place the game in the middle. Do I need or want a remake? No.
GametimeUK
Member
All this racism talk about the infected dudes who have no control over what they do, yet the main villain of the whole game who is making conscious decisions is a white male. But yeah we don't mention that. Huh.
Apocryphon
Member
I mean, racial controversy or not, it’s just a shitty game that didn’t come close to approaching the greatness of games like RE2 and RE4. If they’re doing RE5 I’d be much more interested in a full on remake than a remaster. I’d also rather see Code Veronica and RE1/0 get the RE2R/RE4R treatment than RE5/6.
spookyfish
Member
D) Remake Code: Veronica instead.
Darkmakaimura
Member
I still remember Adam Sessler having a hissy fit over this game.
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Its time to ignore IGN completely
Synless
Member
Wrong, it’s one of the best up there with RE1, 2, and 4.
Personally one of my most replayed with friends.
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Eiknarf
Banned
So it was Matt Purslow who wrote the article right? Does all of IGN agree, or was it an opinion piece?
It’d be great if they let him go
IAmRei
Member
same, I enjoy the game. not consider it horror game or any. just like house of the dead, i find it enjoyable. and the main character is badass duo which i like. not for anyone, but still quite fun for some.
Megatron
Member
If you have friends its awesome.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I don't like playing campaign co-op, I did play a fair amount of co-op mercenaries with a friend, and we got a decent amount of play out of it.
Perhaps some people would have a different opinion of the game if it was co-op only.
VulcanRaven
Member
It doesn't need a remake. It still looks great.
Sleepwalker
Member
It only does if Capcom are looking to bring together a tighter timeline of main games, which is what I think they are doing with these remakes, specially when/if they rewrite 6 and remake 1 again.
Majukun
Member
in terms of rewrriting the atmosphere and gameplay "loop" through the narrative i'd say i agree...5 is when the series decided to turn full action game and completely cast the survival horror part aside, and since the remake REs are all about bringing back the old series, it would make no sense to remake the actioney part.
about the black people issue, i barely played the original, but can't say i remember the game depicting pre-zombified "residents" as savages , violent or both.
and neither seem the two example they link tbh, one just complains that we are shooting poor people and since he grew up in an unpoverished african village it feels uncomfortable doin so...understandable, but that's no fault of the game.
The inhabitants of that spanish village in 4 didn't look exactly wealthy, yet no complain was made there.
second one says something similiar by saying that it's like making a re in the 40s in europe, which i guess means with war-thorn cities and citiziens...and i'm sorry but hasn't that already been done?
it is very strange that what they are asking is essentially to whitewash the zombies, or crearte an entirely different game just to avoid having to do so.
about the black people issue, i barely played the original, but can't say i remember the game depicting pre-zombified "residents" as savages , violent or both.
and neither seem the two example they link tbh, one just complains that we are shooting poor people and since he grew up in an unpoverished african village it feels uncomfortable doin so...understandable, but that's no fault of the game.
The inhabitants of that spanish village in 4 didn't look exactly wealthy, yet no complain was made there.
second one says something similiar by saying that it's like making a re in the 40s in europe, which i guess means with war-thorn cities and citiziens...and i'm sorry but hasn't that already been done?
it is very strange that what they are asking is essentially to whitewash the zombies, or crearte an entirely different game just to avoid having to do so.
Megatron
Member
You can’t sell a $60 game that co-op only. Especially to gamers who are notoriously friendless, lol.
Apocryphon
Member
It’s dogshit like RE6. Too much of a focus on action when RE4 was already pushing it, no enough focus on horror and puzzles. Shitty characters. Shitty level based structure. Over abundance of ammo and healing items. Forced co-op gameplay. Awful on-rails shooting segments. Awful QTE sections….
It’s one of the worst games in the series IMO.
gaming_again
Member
Yeah but why use one of the greatest QTEs ever as proof of this?
bender
What time is it?
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Well, I didn't think it was a great idea either, I was just trying to say something pleasant in response to your post.
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
I'm sorry RE5 burned down your house.
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
They're right. Sheva and Jill's breasts definitely needs to be rewritten to be Sydney Sweeney sized. The underrepresentation of large breasted birthing individuals was appalling in the original!
semiconscious
Member
yeah, by the time we get to ps3/360 era games, like dead space & re5, where the games still look fine & control well, I'm good with remasters...
As a co-op maybe but as a single player game it just felt like an inferior RE4 and ended really badly. There was a talent drain after Gamecube RE4 was made and it really showed in Capcom's output for some time after that.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
RE5 was great. Out of the context of this racist nonsense, it always fell short because it followed RE4. Same with Final Fantasy VII and VIII.
I personally loved how gamey it felt. Co op was a great experience, Mercs was great as per standard, AI partner in single play was fine, people mostly bitched about giving her ammo sink guns and her immediately running through ammo, or using a full heal on a minor injury. It always struck me as a sort of metagame, kind of like setting Gambits for one person in FFXII, the ultimate extension of resource management. The hallmarks of base management, survival horror, and TPS action, all in neatly packed little chapters with pre chapter load out screens. Emblems and shit to collect in game, tons of extra modes and unlockables. A return of the files littering the explorable areas. I fucking love RE5.
Only issues I see is the terrible 3x3 grid inventory. I honestly feel like a good marriage of RE4 mechanics and partner management would be something like having both characters use the same attache case, or more of a need to distribute ammo between one another or something. Could maybe also use more emergent opportunities within free play to split up and tackle objectives/encounters with different player builds. Have a sniper Sheva in a Place with the enhanced verticality of RE4R's environments while Chris wears body armor and shotties on the ground. There were a few of these situations in the game, obviously, but they often felt like set piece moments, very specific scripted things that you couldn't learn from and improvise for future battles. A lot of RE5's co op splits were over a wider horizontal area than a vertical one. This was great for separating the characters and creating scenarios more reminiscent of RE4 and past games, but it did very little for making the implementation of co op more engaging.
I'd love to read a good editorial about shit like that, but racism. Of course. Because black people are being depicted in Africa and becoming Zombies in a zombie game. Al Sharpton is having palpitations.
I personally loved how gamey it felt. Co op was a great experience, Mercs was great as per standard, AI partner in single play was fine, people mostly bitched about giving her ammo sink guns and her immediately running through ammo, or using a full heal on a minor injury. It always struck me as a sort of metagame, kind of like setting Gambits for one person in FFXII, the ultimate extension of resource management. The hallmarks of base management, survival horror, and TPS action, all in neatly packed little chapters with pre chapter load out screens. Emblems and shit to collect in game, tons of extra modes and unlockables. A return of the files littering the explorable areas. I fucking love RE5.
Only issues I see is the terrible 3x3 grid inventory. I honestly feel like a good marriage of RE4 mechanics and partner management would be something like having both characters use the same attache case, or more of a need to distribute ammo between one another or something. Could maybe also use more emergent opportunities within free play to split up and tackle objectives/encounters with different player builds. Have a sniper Sheva in a Place with the enhanced verticality of RE4R's environments while Chris wears body armor and shotties on the ground. There were a few of these situations in the game, obviously, but they often felt like set piece moments, very specific scripted things that you couldn't learn from and improvise for future battles. A lot of RE5's co op splits were over a wider horizontal area than a vertical one. This was great for separating the characters and creating scenarios more reminiscent of RE4 and past games, but it did very little for making the implementation of co op more engaging.
I'd love to read a good editorial about shit like that, but racism. Of course. Because black people are being depicted in Africa and becoming Zombies in a zombie game. Al Sharpton is having palpitations.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Should he allow the zombies to eat him because they're black? Are you serious? I can't tell.
GametimeUK
Member
I have no idea how this is even a reply to my comment lol. Are you being serious?
Kacho
Member
I think he misunderstood what you were saying
Was the video version posted? IGN got ratioed hard there and the comments are ON.
IAmRei
Member
They have red dot however, seeing this thread itch me to playing iit again. Barely install it yesterday and currently in chapter 2.
Eiknarf
Banned
Nok Su Kow
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Rawbutt Jellybean
Member
lmao @ ign article not having comments, can't reply to the IGN tweet, the article author protecting tweets
These idiots know legacy gaming media is dying and refuse to face reality.
These idiots know legacy gaming media is dying and refuse to face reality.
Rawbutt Jellybean
Member
RE5 is underrated because it gets unfairly lumped in with RE6 which was a total dumpster fire.
It's not RE2 or RE4 but not being a 10/10 doesn't mean it's bad.
saintjules
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laynelane
Member
Top comment on the video at this time. Really sums up a lot of the various issues surrounding this, doesn't it? I'm hoping more people speak up like this. I can only imagine how maddening this is for many of the people being 'defended' by these gaming activists/bloggers.