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June Hardware Sales Funtime
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monchi-kun
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CoolTrick said:
i am Vince Klortho, Keymaster of GOZER....are you the Gatekeeper??
This sort of thing happens to companies all the time, I'm sure.
Nintendo failed to reach a new market with its DS handheld, and has instead split the market for GBA's virtually in half. Half "I want a Gameboy." kids and half "Ooh, that two screen thing looks neat." kids/teens. Poor strategic decision, but then again, I wouldn't expect a dual-screened PSP to generate more demand with Sony's handhelds either.
And in case you're wondering what I mean, I think that if the DS never existed, the GBA would be outselling the PSP right now in NA.
But I really hope we're tired of these machines when the X360 launches. Judging by recent PS3 game showings, this next-generation has so much to offer.
Nintendo failed to reach a new market with its DS handheld, and has instead split the market for GBA's virtually in half. Half "I want a Gameboy." kids and half "Ooh, that two screen thing looks neat." kids/teens. Poor strategic decision, but then again, I wouldn't expect a dual-screened PSP to generate more demand with Sony's handhelds either.
And in case you're wondering what I mean, I think that if the DS never existed, the GBA would be outselling the PSP right now in NA.
But I really hope we're tired of these machines when the X360 launches. Judging by recent PS3 game showings, this next-generation has so much to offer.
I have lurked here for awhile. What's wrong with what I am asking? All of a sudden someone throws out a number without any source at all. I don't recall them posting sales numbers (maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember). So why should I believe it? Me being a newer member has nothing to do with this situation. If that poster is trustworthy then very well, I shall accept the number.
captmcblack
Member
If Nintendo is making all of the money and all of the sales from moving the DS and the GBA...then isn't that like, good? For them, anyway? :-\
monchi-kun
Member
I'm trying to free your mind, CoolTrick. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.
Not at all...littlewig said:
Q1 shipped (SCEA): 1.530.000
Q1 sold (NPD): 620.000
Q2 shipped (SCEA): 1.210.000
Q2 sold (NPD): 895.000
Total shipped (SCEA): 2.740.000
Total sold (NPD): 1.515.000
...though NPD wouldn't count Canada. So estimate about ~10% added to the PSP sold figures.
..pakbeka..
Member
How many copies did Wario Ware: Twisted sell?
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Woah! PS2 >2x Xbox even with GTA:SA & Conker...
I wanna see a fight between 99$PS2 and 299$X360 this christmas :3
I wanna see a fight between 99$PS2 and 299$X360 this christmas :3
sonycowboy
Member
Okay,
outside of the PSP vs DS numbers (112k June, 57k May are real), does anybody have any comment on the other numbers?
The PS2 number literally shocks this crap out of me. There were no big releases, and I thought it would be much, much lower. It's unreal and I think it ensures that no price drop will happen until October/November, which should give the PS2 a MONSTER bump for the holidays.
The Xbox just confounds me. It's relatively available at retail (except specialty stores, IMO), although I'm 100% convinced that Microsoft is portioning out distribution, but to what end? If they have limited supply, does it really help to hold some back for the holidays, and how much hardware can they have left?
The GCN is just about dead. Only Zelda will provide anything, and they can only hope that the removal of the Xbox as a price point competitor eventually will help them in that market, although I don't really see that happening, despite the fact that the GCN will be out for another 2 years or so.
outside of the PSP vs DS numbers (112k June, 57k May are real), does anybody have any comment on the other numbers?
The PS2 number literally shocks this crap out of me. There were no big releases, and I thought it would be much, much lower. It's unreal and I think it ensures that no price drop will happen until October/November, which should give the PS2 a MONSTER bump for the holidays.
The Xbox just confounds me. It's relatively available at retail (except specialty stores, IMO), although I'm 100% convinced that Microsoft is portioning out distribution, but to what end? If they have limited supply, does it really help to hold some back for the holidays, and how much hardware can they have left?
The GCN is just about dead. Only Zelda will provide anything, and they can only hope that the removal of the Xbox as a price point competitor eventually will help them in that market, although I don't really see that happening, despite the fact that the GCN will be out for another 2 years or so.
typhonsentra
Banned
50k for Advent Rising.
monchi-kun
Member
Barrage said:
I think Micro is going to be well received.....Nintendo is deffinitely right about targetting non-gamers, Micro is very sexy and less intimidating than the PSP.
sonycowboy
Member
Barrage said:
It hasn't fallen like it has in Japan, but it's much lower than GBA sales have been. They've just been so damn high that it's hard to notice the difference.
GBA sales are down ~32% vs the first six months of 2004 (which were down 17% vs the first six months of 2003).
sonycowboy said:
I don't find it so shocking. PS2 had a monster June last year. I know there was a slight price drop last May, but it wasn't all that significant and the May sales didn't have the same spike as June. I just attributed it to the fact that kids were out of school for the summer and parents were buying PS2s to keep the kids busy. I don't doubt that the same is true this year. Of course, there could be other things at play (like slim PS2s still replacing older models), but the point is that this 355K doesn't surprise me in the least.
sonycowboy
Member
Odysseus said:
It was ALL about the price drop. $179->$149 is huge. Look at the Xbox's percentage jump just a few months before (last April). $149 is a magical price point for consumers. So is $99.
$179 is the lamest price point in the history of consoles. It gave no bump and was just a way for Sony to extend this generation an extra year.
$129, is a pretty good bump historically, as each price point below $149 really opens up a whole new consumer segment.
I expect Sony to drop to $129 this year and save the $99 for when the PS3 launches. However, given the significant battle with Microsoft, I wouldn't be completely shocked if they went all the way down to $99
Weekly sales for all consoles are actually pretty flat vs. May, so these numbers should not be surprising.
DS sales got a weak bump due to free games + new color. That should dissipate fairly rapidly.
PSP weekly sales are tapering off slightly, but reaching a steady state at a very high level. PSP could be the dominant platform over the holidays with a price cut, GTA and the UMD format taking off.
DS sales got a weak bump due to free games + new color. That should dissipate fairly rapidly.
PSP weekly sales are tapering off slightly, but reaching a steady state at a very high level. PSP could be the dominant platform over the holidays with a price cut, GTA and the UMD format taking off.
PSP did much better than expected.I think that by the end of the year it will be the new number one handheld console in USA.
Actually I expected this to happen in Japan and not in USA (at least not so soon),and I've never believed that UMD movies could be so successful...so PSP definetly reserved surprises.Now it will be really interesting to see how it will perform in Europe.
Actually I expected this to happen in Japan and not in USA (at least not so soon),and I've never believed that UMD movies could be so successful...so PSP definetly reserved surprises.Now it will be really interesting to see how it will perform in Europe.
NintendosBooger
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Elios83 said:
Wow, it's going to top the GBA's overall NA sales that soon??
sonycowboy
Member
Rhindle said:
True, but sales rarely are that linear in the US. Although in my prediction threads, I do always tell people to consider the number of weeks in the month. But the US has so many up and down periods from a retail perspective that it's hard to know.
BTW, here's the average weekly sales by month for this year (by dividing the monthly sales by the number of weeks for that month) NOTE: I have to leave GBA & DS out because of the super secret nature of those numbers
Code:
[b]Month / Period PS2 Xbox Gamecube PSP[/b]
[B]Jan per week[/B] 122,501 60,594 28,082 0
[B]Feb per Week[/B] 134,476 53,261 28,603 0
[B]March per Week [/B] 98,376 44,984 18,608 123,706
[B]April per Week [/B] 83,030 38,169 15,539 87,769
[B]May per Week [/B] 68,399 32,715 12,622 62,548
[B]June per Week [/B] 71,000 33,600 14,000 58,800sonycowboy
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Gessle said:
Nope. Your number is too high
What we do know about the DS is 1,650,895 (Nintendo's press release said 1.72 million) from launch to March 31st, plus 57K and 112K the last two months plus whatever it did in April (where it was GBA/DS = 250K). I'd say that 1.9 million is pretty accurate.sonycowboy said:
I dont know if his numbers are too high, but they are a bit off.The 428,000 mark was Jan - Mar, not April. April DS totals are unkown, May is 57k, June 112k and Nov+Dec. was around 1.15 Million.
Doing the math thats 1.74 Million without April if im not mistaken.
Oh and here is US+Japan for June 2005
US NPD
PSP - 294,000
DS - 112,000
Japan MC May 30th-July 3rd
PSP - 107,880
DS - 166,952
Total US+Japan
PSP - 401,880 (+13% from last month)
DS - 278,952 (+26% from last month)
Doing the math thats 1.74 Million without April if im not mistaken.
Oh and here is US+Japan for June 2005
US NPD
PSP - 294,000
DS - 112,000
Japan MC May 30th-July 3rd
PSP - 107,880
DS - 166,952
Total US+Japan
PSP - 401,880 (+13% from last month)
DS - 278,952 (+26% from last month)
Guy LeDouche
Banned
original AND creative.Reilly said:
sonycowboy
Member
Fuzzy said:
It's close, but not right. Let's just say April was pretty bad as well.
Version 3.0
Member
sonycowboy said:
No, it isn't. At least, not according to the numbers on this forum:
DS Sales
Nov = 479,000
Dec = 745,899
Jan = 152,091
Feb + Mar = 275,909 (from YTD sales through March of 428,000, minus Jan)
Apr = ??
May = 57,000
Jun = 112,000
Total = 1,821,899 plus April's missing #, probably a little less than 100,000. His number looks pretty good. If you have better data, can you post it?
sonycowboy
Member
Leondexter said:
I've already said that April was << 100k, but not as bad as May. BTW, you do know that most of the DS numbers for past months was because I posted them, right?
Fuzzy said:Why is it that you always make these kinds of statements instead of actually saying what it is you obvious want to?
I'd love to, but I like my numbers more.