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June Hardware Sales Funtime
- Thread starter Rhindle
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Considering there will be only 4 weeks of for July, I predict the PSP will come in around 220K for the month, and DS will get 80-100K for the month. So the DS will still be in the lead by August by about 100-200K.
Now the month of August will be interesting, this is when the DS hits it's stream of games. We have Nintendogs, Advance Wars, and Yu-Gi-OH all coming out in August.
For the PSP, the only game coming out for it is Death Jr.
From August and onward, DS will have an edge on the number of software releases, so it will be hard for the PSP to overtake it in US this year.
Now the month of August will be interesting, this is when the DS hits it's stream of games. We have Nintendogs, Advance Wars, and Yu-Gi-OH all coming out in August.
For the PSP, the only game coming out for it is Death Jr.
From August and onward, DS will have an edge on the number of software releases, so it will be hard for the PSP to overtake it in US this year.
sonycowboy
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littlewig said:
Well, by that logic, the DS should have outsold the PSP this month.
DS had:
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a) A new color
b) A free game bundled
c) 5 games (Kirby, Meteos, Bomberman, Goldeneye, & Splinter Cell) - with only Meteos & SC at then end of the month.
PSP had:
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a) Two games released at the end of the month (MC3: Dub & DTR)
I do think software will make a difference, but unless it's a huge release, it won't move hardware significantly and the DS is already is very low area, so it needs to rebound.
I do expect the PSP to continue to decline (although I've expected that for 2 months and it hasn't gone nearly as low as I expected).
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sonycowboy said:
Great! Why stop now? Everyone loves numbers.
sonycowboy said:
Including you!
sonycowboy
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Prine said:
As a slight clarification, 294k is ~2.6 times 112k
sonycowboy
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jarrod said:
:lol :lol
It's all Sony all the time baby! (Except for that pesky GBA - We'll get you meddling kids!!)
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sonycowboy said:
To be fair, this was the third month after the launch of the PSP. If the PSP destroys the DS in August with that lineup, then start posting the bail out pics.
littlewig said:
PSP has a stronger lineup than DS for the rest of the year as far as western gamers' tastes are concerned.With all the EA stuff like Madden,Burnout,SSX plus of course GTA Liberty City Stories I really don't think PSP will have any lineup problem this fall in Usa/Europe.
Edit: I forgot to mention all the UMD movies catalogue
:lolsonycowboy
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jarrod said:
Of course, for it to be truly correct, you'd have to modify that line to "Worldwide gamers know the score"[/b]
sonycowboy
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jarrod said:You forgot PSP's b) 19 or so movie releases.
Dude,
That numbers gonna get ALOT bigger :lol
jarrod said:Er... everything you mentioned but GTA is hitting DS too.
You wouldn't be able to tell by sales, I'd bet.
jarrod said:Er... everything you mentioned but GTA is hitting DS too.
But the impact those titles will have on the two consoles will be really different in my opinion.
On DS Ea titles will pass without being noticed, on PSP they have the possibilty to be good sellers (and system sellers).
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sonycowboy said:
Yeah, the DS software hasn't done much to help hardware sales. I think the reason is simple: the competition. The PSP is selling 'cause it's cool, simple as that. It's not the games, it's not the movies, it's just fucking cool. And that hurts the DS, a lot. The "different demographics" is BS right now--they are both new handhelds, and people are choosing between them when they buy. The demographic that the DS is supposed to appeal to (aside from non-gamers, who are never coming, guys!) is still going for the GBA. Maybe that'll change as it becomes apparent that the bulk of Nintendo's games are coming on DS.
In Japan, the GBA has pretty much been replaced with the DS. It didn't happen here. I think Nintendo messed up here when they didn't call it the "Game Boy DS". They tried to hedge their bets in case it failed, and now it's struggling because of that. "3rd pillar", yeah right.
Certainly, PSP's doing a fantastic job at trying to look like a mini-PS2. But that in itself doesn't somehow make it's overall lineup more appealing to "western tastes" when DS has most of those same titles plus essentially everything that made GBA the best selling handheld in history (Mario Kart, Mario, Sonic, Yu-Gi-OH, Harry Potter, Tony Hawk, Kirby, Mega Man, Disney, etc). Be more carfeul in your words, GBA is one of the most successful US platforms ever and DS has pretty much supplanted it's software support.Elios83 said:
"Yeah, the DS software hasn't done much to help hardware sales. I think the reason is simple: the competition. The PSP is selling 'cause it's cool, simple as that. It's not the games, it's not the movies, it's just fucking cool. And that hurts the DS, a lot. The "different demographics" is BS right now--they are both new handhelds, and people are choosing between them when they buy. The demographic that the DS is supposed to appeal to (aside from non-gamers, who are never coming, guys!) is still going for the GBA. Maybe that'll change as it becomes apparent that the bulk of Nintendo's games are coming on DS.
In Japan, the GBA has pretty much been replaced with the DS. It didn't happen here. I think Nintendo messed up here when they didn't call it the "Game Boy DS". They tried to hedge their bets in case it failed, and now it's struggling because of that. "3rd pillar", yeah right."
Well there are actually quite a number of good NDS software in Japan which isn't really the case in NA (or EU). Nintendo didn't just replace the GBA, they showed the japanese what they NDS really could do and the dug it (Quendan, Nintendogs, Brain training, Band brothers just to name a few.
In Japan, the GBA has pretty much been replaced with the DS. It didn't happen here. I think Nintendo messed up here when they didn't call it the "Game Boy DS". They tried to hedge their bets in case it failed, and now it's struggling because of that. "3rd pillar", yeah right."
Well there are actually quite a number of good NDS software in Japan which isn't really the case in NA (or EU). Nintendo didn't just replace the GBA, they showed the japanese what they NDS really could do and the dug it (Quendan, Nintendogs, Brain training, Band brothers just to name a few.
Damn. I guess PSP demand is much better in the US than in Japan. That is really wierd since they are more likely to go for the overpriced gizmos. I wonder if Nintendo will shift focus back to the GBA once the Micro come along, or if the third pillar is really becoming a reality. B/c the DS is clowning the GBA in Japan...and the PSP at the moment. So it's not like they can drop it without losing big over there. But if the Micro comes along and bests both, maybe they can bail on the DS??? Two handheld future might be real afterall. :? PEACE.
Guy LeDouche
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I think the iPod did alot to eliminate any American consumer fear of high-priced gizmos over the last 1-2 years. Millions have now crossed the line where they are willing to drop $300+ for a mp3 player. A PSP isn't much of a stretch at all.Pimpwerx said:
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Kroole said:
I agree. And they need to do that here. They have until Christmas to do so, with only Pokemon to bail them out after that. They've all but abandoned the GBA on the development side, so they're going to be in a very tricky situation if the DS is extremely successful while the GBA retires in Japan (which looks like the case) but the GBA stays strong while the DS falters in the US (which looks possible).
I truly think that if they named the DS "Game Boy", it'd sell like crazy even without must-have software. The GBA sold in record numbers before it had any great games. I think in Japan they've accepted it as the new Game Boy, but not here. Here, they don't really know what it is.
BTW, I have Band Bros--it rocks.
My theory on the Microsoft holding back hardware is that if they put it out there and it all sells, then effectively they are killing the console and software sales going forward.
By spacing out the number of units they get into the market, they can sustain the console for a longer period of time and they'd be hoping this will mean that software sales will be stronger.
By spacing out the number of units they get into the market, they can sustain the console for a longer period of time and they'd be hoping this will mean that software sales will be stronger.
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
I think PSP sales will be up quite a bit for july because of the UMD movies. I'd say as much as 400k or at least 350k, so consider DS's instaled base already passed by PSP in NA. But I still don't think it's Game Over for DS yet, it may not outsell PSP but it'll still be a fairly successful system with all the big name games it's gonna be getting like Pokemon and Mario Kart.
sonycowboy
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PS2 is on essentially track to match it's best year ever - 2002. Of course, it would have to sell almost 4M units in November & December to do so (like in 2002), but if it drops to $99...
Jan-Jun for each of these years.
Jan-Jun for each of these years.
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Year PS2 XBX GCN
2002 2,481,071 970,672 644,936
2003 2,319,026 936,912 716,178
2004 1,847,507 1,364,859 712,651
2005 2,480,501 1,131,871 502,418monkeymagic
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sonycowboy said:
I see Sony dropping to $129 when X360 launches just to take mindshare and media column inches from X360 but not to compete for the same consumers (because after all they won't be)
PS2 really has no competition anymore and a drop to $99 won't happen for at least another year even beyond PS3 launch to offset losses on both PSP and PS3 hardware.
krypt0nian
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PSP = 294,000
michael000
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294,000 is impressive, PSP has it's foot comfortably wedged in the door now. About the only bad thing is that we'll have nothing but american style games to play on it since it's pointless for JP dev teams to work on new content for the PSP :lol
Drinky Crow
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PSP
Good times; good times. Gaming in North America is taking a nice stride forward.
Good times; good times. Gaming in North America is taking a nice stride forward.
Drinky Crow said:PSP
Good times; good times. Gaming in North America is taking a nice stride forward.
I guess prettier graphics over gameplay is considered to be a "nice stride forward" then.
But people, come on. PSP and DS will be around for a while. They're both hits, with the chance of PSP sales declining in the next few months. But that doesn't mean it still won't sell good either.
They're both staying around.
1) Graphics over gameplay? The PSP's graphics are passable because they simulate what you see on a PS2. The gameplay is what has been solid, if review scores are any indication.
2) Nintendo and Sony should just call a truce. Neither one is going to have a nice time with the other around. Perhaps a PSP for which Nintendo collects all the revenue and publishes million selling games like Pokemon. Sony doesn't mind losing money, nor being market leader. Nintendo doesn't mind making money, while trailing the market leader. Win-win.
2) Nintendo and Sony should just call a truce. Neither one is going to have a nice time with the other around. Perhaps a PSP for which Nintendo collects all the revenue and publishes million selling games like Pokemon. Sony doesn't mind losing money, nor being market leader. Nintendo doesn't mind making money, while trailing the market leader. Win-win.
There's 4 Japanese developed games in the NA LTD top ten for PSP:michael000 said:
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NEED SPEED:UND RIVALS EA 300,259
TWISTED METAL:HEAD ON SCEA 275,402
UNTOLD LEGENDS:BTHRHD SOE 260,135
WIPEOUT PURE SCEA 195,993
RIDGE RACER Namco 185,951
METAL GEAR ACID Konami 184,202
T.HAWK UNDGRND2 REMIX Activision 158,952
LUMINES Ubisoft 156,356
APE ESCAPE:ON LOOSE SCEA 127,104
NBA SCEA 123,407Cold-Steel
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Nintendo just really needs to come out of the gates with a game that demonstrates what makes the DS a seperate line from the Game Boy without using any pre-existing characters from their library.
In other words, fuck Kirby.
Get Electroplankton and Nintendogs stateside now.
Right now the DS just appears to consumers as a more expensive Game Boy.
I'm probably the only person who thinks that Rogue Agent did well on DS especially against the current Nintendo published DS catalog.
In other words, fuck Kirby.
Get Electroplankton and Nintendogs stateside now.
Right now the DS just appears to consumers as a more expensive Game Boy.
I'm probably the only person who thinks that Rogue Agent did well on DS especially against the current Nintendo published DS catalog.
krypt0nian
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Cold-Steel said:
Nintendogs should do well, but Electroplankton is a non-issue.
And I own Electroplankton...after the first 15mins, there is nothing to do.
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krypt0nian said:
For most of us it will be overlooked, but I'd imagine there's an open market for a game like this with girl gamers and casual short-term gamers.