Can't wait for the RPS or Kotaku Human Head interview. The Bethesda tears will flow.
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Kotaku: Bethesda is misleading gamers about Prey 2, Arkane is in fact making game
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Because any statements about Zenimax games by Zenimax must be taken with all the salt. You really think itll be like SS not just a Bioshock or Dead Space level "successor?"
He's completely lost all credibility. I doubt we'll hear from him again until he's presenting an actual, physical, real product at a tradeshow in the future.
moltonasty
Member
I said on june 1st, the only way this makes sense, is if they are trying a hostile take over of HH. Seem's it didnt work out, so they reset the project to save face... Good on J for keeping up on this.
Would have been a shame if the story back in the end of may, would have died. Everything they did, didn't make sense, unless they were trying a hostile take-over. The people over at Zeni though are known for their hostile take-overs, so not surprising.
Would have been a shame if the story back in the end of may, would have died. Everything they did, didn't make sense, unless they were trying a hostile take-over. The people over at Zeni though are known for their hostile take-overs, so not surprising.
Shit like uncovering shady and disgusting dealings between Bethesda/Zenimax and Human Head on Prey 2? Those sneaky fucks.
Yeah, he's probably gone from our view for a while, but other PR people will have to deal with this anyway.
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This is the one good part of all of this.
I wish we could have just gotten Human Head's Prey 2, which looked quite good, and then a new IP from Arkane as a spiritual successor to System Shock 2.
Baron_Calamity
Member
I'm amazingly ok with all this for some reason.
And how much they hate people on the GAF who think they know how shit works lol. It shows too everytime something happens the GAF is surprised because the vast majority of people here have no clue how the industry or business in general works but love to act like they do it's kinda sad actually.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Hey Jason, I made you a new Avatar
Krusenstern
Banned
Thanks. Man, what a dirty mess that is.
Personally, I could care less about when/how they want to announce their games, but I really don't want to support Zenimax screwing over devs like that.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
Has Bethesda always been like this? Or at least Zenimax?
I do trust Arkane to make a brilliant game but the whole situation disgusts me.
I do trust Arkane to make a brilliant game but the whole situation disgusts me.
Marmaladefire
Member
LMAOOO. amazing
Perfect!
Bethesda/Zenimax sound hellish to work for if they don't already own you, wow.
This goes back a long time, with several other companies.
The Gaf?
Are you having a stroke?
Intheflorsh
Banned
To be fair to Arkane, Kotaku did dig around in their email so "press sneak fucks" isn't completely unwarranted.
Still, this is a pretty unfortunate situation.
Still, this is a pretty unfortunate situation.
Any chance you could rephrase this into something coherent and provide examples?
eot
Banned
Please tell us how shit works then, you seem to know
Spring-Loaded
Member
That Steve Carrell "closing door on old man" gif would be particularly appropriate here because of the use of "the" before "GAF".
dragonbane
Member
not_so_special
Banned
lol thats true...i know a lot of devs ( real ones no pr mouths) and the hate the gaming press with passion,seriously..with passion
and i dont blame them
Yes? What's the point? It's stupidly infantile, I would look down on anyone referring to any other in such a language.
We are lucky tonight, a carousel of insidahs are with us! Tell us more guys.
Especially I would like to hear the story of Colantonio reason for hating the press when he got stellar coverage and glowing reviews for his studio new IP. I'm sure press chanting how impressed they were with Dishonored for months did nothing good for the game at all.
What they showed before is pretty much gone forever.
I think it's even more sad that they care at all. This is just a forum where people give their opinions, educated or not. NeoGAF is not a person, it makes no sense to get mad because "GAF doesn't know about anything". No one here has any obligation to know how it works, NeoGAF is not a job for most members.
I completely agree that some times people (PEOPLE, not NeoGAF, please) are very insensitive and forget that real people with emotions worked very hard on the things they are overreacting about and claiming that anyone who worked on this piece of shit should die of cancer or whatever, but not knowing about how the industry works? And by the same people who hate the press and don't want them to talk about how the industry works? Come on now. You may say "it's not the same people", well, it's not "NeoGAF" either but they love saying so anyway, don't they?
Neuromancer
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Triggerhappytel
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This is Arkane Austin. I don't know when this studio was established, but the Arkane who developed Dishonored are based in Lyon, France. I'm pretty sure they'll be focusing on a sequel to that game.
Bethesda are part of Zenimax, so I doubt this arose from a lack of communication between the two. More likely it was a strategic plan to bring Arkane in house for a cheap price.
SammiiDoogles
Member
Further cements my opinion that Bethesda/Zenimax is a fucking awful, awful company. Colantonio sounds like a prick as well going by that email.
I never played Prey 1 but what they showed with 2 was really interesting and looked exactly like something I wanted to play.
Good on Kotaku though.
I never played Prey 1 but what they showed with 2 was really interesting and looked exactly like something I wanted to play.
Good on Kotaku though.
YES.
weevles
Member
I'm still a little confused, so "Press Sneak Fuck" uncovered an email from Besthesda/Zenimax that confirms that the company was trying to hustle developer Human Head into some untenable position where they were either going to get bought out or go out of business for not meeting alleged milestones?
BTW, I think I will refer to all game journalists as "Press Sneak Fucks" from now on...that title just sounds all kinds of awesome.
BTW, I think I will refer to all game journalists as "Press Sneak Fucks" from now on...that title just sounds all kinds of awesome.
Well done by Kotaku, my respect for certain "press sneak fucks" has increased higher. Yeah, Bethesda sounds really shitty to work for based on all this, it sucks Human Head were treated that way as everyone were pretty excited by the footage we were showed. I hope they get to make the game they want to do, I'll try to support them in the future.
I still have faith that Arkane will be able to do something good too though.
I still have faith that Arkane will be able to do something good too though.
JehutyRunner
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Actually, Dishonored was a co-development between the studios in Lyon and Austin. Though now, it seems the two have become two separate satellite studios rather than just one entity, with Lyon and Harvey Smith working on Dishonored 2 and Austin and Raf Colantonio working on Prey 2.
GillianSeed79
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Who uses "press sneak fucks" in an inter-office email communication, or profanity in a work email for that matter? The original cyberpunk/bounty hunter/Blade Runner Prey 2 looked awesome, but for all we know they could be throwing that concept out right?
reptilescorpio
Member
Yup true, they are keeping things afloat over there pretty well thankfully. Hope they get another big contract and can ramp up, love their work.
Relaxed Muscle
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Jawmuncher
Member
I'd assume they just wanted to come out all out once with it.
Announcement, Trailer, and reveal of developer. While it's not a big deal to know early it does kill a bit of excitement and the like in a way. Though at a company level I don't see that being important but you never know.
Nobody wants that game.