Khalifa Jayy
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http://globalnews.ca/news/3067710/j...paul-mccartney-surfaces-and-its-not-pleasant/
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The savagery.
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The savagery.
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Letter from Lennon to McCartney surfaces, and it's not pleasant at all.
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Secret Character
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I've always disliked Paul, and this further cements that. He was always in it for the fame and the money, not for making art. When both John and George did solo works, it was clear that the real songwriting talent was in those two.
Sickboy007
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Lennon was an insufferable cunt, nothing new
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This letter and the fights surrounding it probably led to Paul putting a picture of a beetle fucking another beetle on the back cover of the album Ram and taking some digs in song lyrics, so Lennon responded back with 'How Do You Sleep' and recreating the album cover of Ram with a pig instead of a ram.
SocksAndShoes
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Man, John Lennon was such an awful person to those close to him.
VendettaRed07
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Lol. Basically this.
Whatever John had to say about Paul, pretty clear he went off the deep end and became impossible to work with.
Like there's a difference between Art and allowing your Girlfriend to come into the recording studio and masterbate under the piano while screaming your name. And then getting pissed off at your friends for being completely uncomfortable with the situation
PHOENIXZERO
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"Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue about that; I'm right and I'll be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now; I don't know which will go first—rock 'n' roll or Christianity. Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me."
But yeah, Lennon was a hypocritical shit bag.
Um... that's kinda awesome.
I've always gotten the impression that both Lennon and McCartney (while both incredibly talented in their own ways) were conceited egomaniacs.
The only Beatle who was an all around decent guy was George and no one remembers him because he wasn't nearly as flashy as the other three. It's a shame.
Holy shit is this a thing that actually happened
Omegasquash
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Pretty high on himself, as I understand. Fame and glory go to your head.
Nerd_Incognito
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While Lennon wasn't exactly a saint, I can forgive the tone of this letter seeing as it was written on the heels of an ugly breakup, with the need to defend his own lover, yet still ended it with a gesture of love towards both Paul & Linda.
Context is everything, people. And no one is perfect.
Context is everything, people. And no one is perfect.
Dyson Industries
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Tupac vs Biggie is a pale imitation of this raging inferno
I wondered how they captured the vocals for Plastic Ono Band
Puck Beaverton
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Both were egomaniacs, but Lennon was far and away the better solo artist.
VendettaRed07
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In theory, sure.
But when literally crazy behavior like his continues over long periods of time and you have a schedule and recording deadlines and jobs to do and John is dicking around with experimental nonsense and shoving unlistenable metta garbage on the albums, and having to fight with him every step of the way to make sure the next albums first 8 tracks aren't each 5 minute recordings of the sound of a bowling ball being rolled around in a bath tub, you can understand why all the other guys just got so fed up with him. (Not an actual example, but not too far from what was going on)
Omegasquash
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This is from Vice, so take it as you will:
You don't have to 'Imagine' John Lennon beat his wife and children.
I agree that no one is perfect, and I agree that context is everything, but Lennon was a prick. An artist, but a prick.
VendettaRed07
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Yeah. They had always had a "no girlfriends in the studio" rule, but John insisted Yoko was necessary for inspiration and she regularly did insane, incoherent stuff like that
Screaming Meat
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I... I would genuinely listen to that.
Doesn't mean I want to listen to it.
"Imagine no possessions," says man with custom-built climate controlled room in his apartment solely for storing his fur coats.
Goldenroad
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WHAT?! You mean best song ever, right?!
McCartney has never, in his career, put out anything anywhere near as bad as "The Wedding Album". Lennon was a great songwriter when he wanted to be, but McCartney was able to do it without even trying.
Holy shit, did this actually happen? rofl.
And, meh. I never liked Paul to be completely honest. I did like John in the earliest years of The Beatles. Then Yoko Ono happened and John turned into an insufferable turbo twat, just like Paul.
The only good thing these two ever did, was music. So at least, there's that.
.......John Lennon was Death Grips before Death Grips.
I like that song simply for how awful it is.
cultural differences. that statement didn't even move the needle in britain however the US had a fucking meltdown over it, leading many people to burn their albums and what not.
also fuck Paul, if we are to believe that he didn't die. dude got his karma back in spades thanks to Michael Jackson.
johancruijff
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Two special prick
I wonder if he would have used the ways of his wife.
https://twitter.com/yokoono/status/797187458505080834
TemplaerDude
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Still gonna blame Yoko for everything.
More like he was Clipping before Clipping
Netherscourge
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At the end of the day, the Beatles were just... spoiled brats who took themselves too seriously.
World SkiFree
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Varying responses to this letter have been fun to read. We need a Team Paul/Team John running survey to accompany this thread.
InaudibleWhispa
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But they weren't just fed up with Lennon, they were all fed up with Paul by the end. He wanted to establish his in-laws as managers, the others felt he wanted preferential treatment, Paul sued them. George said just as many bitter things about Paul as Lennon ("I’d join a band with John Lennon any day, but I couldn’t join a band again with Paul McCartney", "Paul ruined me as a guitar player").
Their diverging musical directions and tastes were absolutely part of the breakup, and they were all angry at one another for various reasons, but in terms of general relationships and friendships, Paul was more alienating than anyone else. George, Ringo and Lennon collaborated quite a bit after the breakup (George was lead guitarist for most of the Imagine album, and Ringo on drums for Plastic Ono Band for example).
LizardKing
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Well that's a misleading headline. This letter is mostly addressing Linda McCartney (apparently in response to a letter she wrote). He's not near as harsh when referencing Paul.
Secret Character
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Seriously. It's a pretty great name for an album title.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu9GMFxvWiE
"You live with straights who tell you "you was king"
Jump when your mamma tell you anything
The only thing you done was yesterday
And since you've gone it's just another day"
"The sound you make is muzak to my ears
You must have learned something all those years"
LizardKing
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I'm well aware they had a bitter falling out and shit talked each other. I'm just saying as far as this letter goes he's mostly talking to Linda.
Jag
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Pretty much this. If you can get a version of the movie Let It Be, you can seen the tension right up to then. It's why McCartney said he would never authorize a remaster or release of it because it was taken at a time when there was such tremendous discord within the group.
Hell, Harrison quit because of Paul and John being such assholes in the end. They supposedly talked about bringing Clapton to replace him.
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