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[SigmasonicX]

Yeah, but I don't think he's part of the cycle. I think the cycle is of story-relevant characters and he doesn't seem to have any role in the story. We also know that the Mul Daya twins are RG.

[EDIT] Looks like this was just officially spoiled:

Don't know why this article went up after the others.

Even for Tuesdays, I thought that having just one non-feature article was odd.

Now that Ayli has been officially spoiled, I say she has a good chance of seeing play, especially after rotation. If nothing else, she turns all of your lands into Diamond Valley.

As for Liliana, I still think that once she succeeds in killing all of her demons, Garruk will attack her and they'll end up killing each other.

 

[ultron87]

How did I end up with 132 play points on MTGO? Like, cool, that's a cube draft, but it seems difficult to spend the extra 2.

 

[OnPoint]

Liliana is going to be dead in the end

Why do you think this?

 

[Santiako]

Why do you think this?

Black characters always die first.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Why do you think this?

If we run on the assumption the story will have an end for any of the characters, she's an asshole.

How did I end up with 132 play points on MTGO? Like, cool, that's a cube draft, but it seems difficult to spend the extra 2.

They had some linear formula to convert Phantom Points into Play Points.

 

[LaserBuddha]

I've been working on a Meren EDH deck and it is coming along nicely.

So when Viridian Emissary (2/1, fetches a land when he dies) is given Persist by Cauldron of Souls, then dies, I assume he fetches a second land when he bounces back to the battlefield and then back to the graveyard?

 

[ultron87]

So when Viridian Emissary (2/1, fetches a land when he dies) is given Persist by Cauldron of Souls, then dies, I assume he fetches a second land when he bounces back to the battlefield and then back to the graveyard?

That's correct. It'll be on the battlefield for a tiny amount of time, but that's long enough to count as dying.

 

[OnPoint]

Black characters always die first.

Hahahaha I should have seen that coming.

 

[keeblerdrow]

In his preview article for Nissa, Patrick Chapin is trying so so hard to say something nice about her. He makes abstract and disjointed arguments and throws anything together to encourage people to try her in... Something.

"She's three mana! Those are good!"
"Her minus is a better rate on an unplayable card! Better rates are good, I guess."
"Her ult is almost an Ugin. So, yeah."
"If it weren't for wanting to play her origins card more, she's a solid maybe in a forced superfriends deck. Brew it?"

 

[acheron_xl]

[EDIT] Looks like this was just officially spoiled:

This would instantly be my WB commander of choice. Shades of Lyzolda here.

 

[kirblar]

In his preview article for Nissa, Patrick Chapin is trying so so hard to say something nice about her. He makes abstract and disjointed arguments and throws anything together to encourage people to try her in... Something.

"She's three mana! Those are good!"
"Her minus is a better rate on an unplayable card! Better rates are good, I guess."
"Her ult is almost an Ugin. So, yeah."
"If it weren't for wanting to play her origins card more, she's a solid maybe in a forced superfriends deck. Brew it?"

It's the shortest Chapin article ever! Mostly because there's very little that's nice to say about her.

 

[SigmasonicX]

The card, for those who hadn't seen it:

And the preview article

People generally agree that the card is bad, especially since the first two abilities can be directly compared to two of Gideon's.

 

[kirblar]

Origins didn't do well: http://icv2.com/articles/news/view/32837/magic-down-hasbro-q3 Sales down.

(Not really surprised.)

 

[OnPoint]

I'm still thinking UG Polymorph is where I'm going to try her. Still don't think she'll be good. But I wanna try.

 

[Santiako]

Starcity has nissa for preorder at 15 bucks. That's higher than kozilek. Madness.

 

[OnPoint]

Starcity has nissa for preorder at 15 bucks. That's higher than kozilek. Madness.

Yeah I'd stay far, far away. She's gonna be poop soup.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Origins didn't do well: http://icv2.com/articles/news/view/32837/magic-down-hasbro-q3 Sales down.

(Not really surprised.)

This seems to say that it did well.

Goldner also pointed to some positive Magic metrics, calling Magic Origins, released in Q3, the biggest summer set release in the game’s history, revealing that the Battle of Zendikar pre-release was the best-attended pre-release ever, and noting that the number of hobby stores carrying Magic was up over a year ago.

EDIT: Also, this article is from October, about a week after the release of Battle for Zendikar.

 

[Ashodin]

Nissa at 15 hahaha haha hahaha hahahahahahahahahah

Oh

 

[kirblar]

Must be MTGO then.

 

[Firemind]

What if there's an Arbor Elf reprint?

 

[Angry Grimace]

Starcity has nissa for preorder at 15 bucks. That's higher than kozilek. Madness.

Nissa is outright bad and Kozilek is probably a 1-of in Ulamog decks in Standard and/or Modern.

Nissa is probably one of the worst PW I've seen from a design perspective. I legit don't get what they were doing other than trying to make a PW for the Support ability.

This is how I would list the 3 mana planeswalkers from good to bad:

Liliana of the Veil
Jace Beleren
Domri Rade
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
Ajani, Caller of the Pride
Nissa, Vastwood Seer
Liliana, Heretical Healer
Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh
.
.
.
.
.
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar

What if there's an Arbor Elf reprint?

The weirdest thing about the 1 mana dorks for me is that they decided to switch to land-ramp, except land based ramp is pretty difficult to actually interact with, whereas its very easy to interact with creature based ramp.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Caleb Durward's cube draft on CFB is hilarious. Turn 1 Bitterblossom for B/W Tokens game one, game two is turn 3 Storm combo.

 

[Danj]

Magic Duels again, now stuck on Liliana Vess mission 5, where you have to fight 4 dudes in a row without a break (and if you die you have to do all 4 over again) - anyone got any tips?

 

[Angry Grimace]

Nissa should have just had a +2 instead of a +1.

 

[OnPoint]

Nissa should have just had a +2 instead of a +1.

She feels like she got 'fixed' late in the process.

 

[Angry Grimace]

How is Nissa 15 dollars but Goblin Dark Dwellers is 2 bucks

I guess people don't like free stuff with the 4/4s with evasion

 

[Keru_Shiri]

How is Nissa 15 dollars but Goblin Dark Dwellers is 2 bucks

I guess people don't like free stuff with the 4/4s with evasion

Planeswalker preorder prices are always inflated.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Planeswalker preorder prices are always inflated.

I just think this is a card that compares pretty favorably to Stormbreath Dragon, and could be involved in some horseshit shenanigans since every sorcery or instant played in constructed is typically powerful.

 

[Fou-Lu]

I am considering looking into MTGO. Is it still popular? Are card and booster prices equivalent? What kind of game modes are available? Do you earn anything from just playing or is it all gotten by paying real money?

 

["God's Beard!"]

Man, my buddy's selling of his cube in parts so I told him I'd take a look at the list and...

http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/22995

Holy shit.

Judge promos, 9 expeditions. This thing's gotta be in the 5-figure range.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I am considering looking into MTGO. Is it still popular? Are card and booster prices equivalent? What kind of game modes are available? Do you earn anything from just playing or is it all gotten by paying real money?

Prices are the same on MTGO as in real life due to the fact that you can convert the digital cards into real ones.

I like it, but most people hate the concept and the client (the client is actually fine now, but most people haven't touched it since they launched V.4 and it was a mess at the time)

 

[Angry Grimace]

Using M/M instead of C/C - there are a lot of variants (W/B, B/R, Mono-B, U/B) with the same shell.

Can't you just use "x" since people write "G/B/x" to describe decks with variable splashes all the time?

 

[kirblar]

Can't you just use "x" since people write "G/B/x" to describe decks with variable splashes all the time?

Yeah, x/x probably would have worked, I had the M/M on my brain from the first day of articles.

 

[Firemind]

dat feeling when you p1p1 ancestral recall and blue gets cut off.

Prices are the same on MTGO as in real life due to the fact that you can convert the digital cards into real ones.

I like it, but most people hate the concept and the client (the client is actually fine now, but most people haven't touched it since they launched V.4 and it was a mess at the time)

Cards are much cheaper to buy in though. They're digital though which is a turnoff for some people.

You can earn packs and play points by playing, but due to some changes in the past, it's much more difficult to go 'infinite' now.

 

[Danj]

You might want to try in the Magic Duels thread over on Gaming side. Not many regulars in this thread actually play it, since we started Magic before it came out. However, a general tip from your description would be to use cheaper spells in your deck; though I'm not sure if that's easier said than done.

Oh, sorry, didn't realise there was a dedicated Magic Duels thread. I'll take myself over there, thanks.

 

[Firemind]

Everyone sure has a hard on for blue. I got slaughtered by u/w in the first round. Red on the other hand was super open. Recall tricked me!

 

[charlequin]

This seems to say that it did well.

They say it's the "biggest summer set ever," which really just speaks to how little anyone cared about core sets and how much they expect the two-block paradigm to improve their sales.

 

[ThLunarian]

Everyone sure has a hard on for blue. I got slaughtered by u/w in the first round. Red on the other hand was super open. Recall tricked me!

Always splash for Recall.

Always.

 

[Joe Molotov]

How is Nissa 15 dollars but Goblin Dark Dwellers is 2 bucks

I guess people don't like free stuff with the 4/4s with evasion

Goblin + Exquisite Firecraft or Atarka's Command seems p. good.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Everyone sure has a hard on for blue. I got slaughtered by u/w in the first round. Red on the other hand was super open. Recall tricked me!

You know what card is stupid good in a deck full of 1 and 2 mana cards? Ancestral Recall. If you pick up Volcanic and its ilk, Recall is bonkers in mono red.

 

[ultron87]

I won a match of Cube with Blue/White flicker nonsense + equipment! Feels too fair to go far though. Also my mana base is garbage considering how much double white and double blue there is.

I'd never played with Brago before. He's fun when he is flickering Flickerwhisp, Jace, and Frost Titan. Almost had him flickering Treachery too but forgot my opponent's Venser the Sojourner says "you own" and not "you control" for his plus.

 

[Firemind]

You know what card is stupid good in a deck full of 1 and 2 mana cards? Ancestral Recall. If you pick up Volcanic and its ilk, Recall is bonkers in mono red.

drawing three cards versus playing creatures and attacking. idk man

Spoiler

alright i should have followed my heart

 

[Keru_Shiri]

I just think this is a card that compares pretty favorably to Stormbreath Dragon, and could be involved in some horseshit shenanigans since every sorcery or instant played in constructed is typically powerful.

I don't disagree. If anything, I'm thankful it's being slept on as it'll make buying in that much easier.

 

[Angry Grimace]

dat feeling when you p1p1 ancestral recall and blue gets cut off.


Cards are much cheaper to buy in though. They're digital though which is a turnoff for some people.

You can earn packs and play points by playing, but due to some changes in the past, it's much more difficult to go 'infinite' now.

Splashing for Recall is usually reasonable though. There's very few decks where I'm not going to try and splash for the most powerful card in the game.

 

[Firemind]

sonuvabitch got trolled by armageddon just when i was about to cast my game-winning spell

edit: lol third draft i get recall again

edit2: sonuva red got cut this time

 

[Angry Grimace]

26 Lands in deck: lol all you get is land
25 Lands in deck: FUCK YOU NO LANDS

 

[Firemind]

you play 25-26 lands in a limited deck?

 

[Ashodin]

I feel the same way about lands in decks. They're just angry when you take one out.

 

[ultron87]

Made it to the finals and got Splinter Twinned out after fighting through Isochron Sceptre w/ Fire/Ice. Could've actually beaten it if I hadn't tapped wrong which resulted in not being able to play a Banisher Priest because they played the Pestermite before combat. Oh well, that earned me another Cube at least!

I also enjoyed reminding myself/learning on the fly what things can protect a creature from The Abyss and the weird ass templating it has. Thing such as Mother of Runes (shuts it down completely), and Sword of Light and Shadow or Geist of St. Traft (which only protect themselves and you still have to choose another creature).

 

[Angry Grimace]

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