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[BennyBlanco]

I wonder if well ever get official platform splits

Edit- he deleted it

 

[Alexios]

Just say how much it sold, spare us the 1 in X in Y bullshit. Bitch.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Devs have stated otherwise unless for whatever reason the daily PS base is much larger then the daily steam base

 

[iamvin22]

This guy is a piece of work

 

[graywolf323]

without numbers those figures really mean nothing, how many active users does each platform have?

I mean Steam has 120+ million accounts including ~60 million daily active, I highly doubt that it’s sold 10+ million on Steam…

so without the basis for the figures he’s referencing, Piscatella’s not really telling us anything (except that it’s doing well on PC which is great for Sony’s GAAS plans)

edit: seems those numbers I remembered were from 2020 so Steam is likely even higher now

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Just say how much it sold, spare us the 1 in X in Y bullshit. Bitch.

Because he doesn’t know, it’s not hard data, it is some “engagement tracker”

 

[ByWatterson]

It's a huge hit moving on

 

[Punished Miku]

The Helldivers 2 Remake will do gangbusters on PS. Nothing to worry about.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Devs have stated otherwise unless for whatever reason the daily PS base is much larger then the daily steam base

Last time we got real MAU numbers that was not the case

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Last time we got real MAU numbers that was not the case

Then Matt’s engagement tracker isn’t working

Because the devs themselves stated it was around 50:50 with PlayStation accounting for 20% or so more sales

 

[tusharngf]

glorious numbers on PC side

 

[MasterCornholio]

Devs seem to be saying its doing well on PlayStation. Don't thing there's anything to worry about to be honest.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Then Matt’s engagement tracker isn’t working

Because the devs themselves stated it was around 50:50 with PlayStation accounting for 20% or so more sales

Well this only accounts for the US

 

[demented waffle]

Then Matt’s engagement tracker isn’t working

Because the devs themselves stated it was around 50:50 with PlayStation accounting for 20% or so more sales

Title states in the US.

 

[Pop]

Looking at the numbers in game, I would say its pretty even between platforms. Last night both had over 400k online

 

[SmokedMeat]

It can’t be! The numbers are wrong! This guy is bullshit!

 

[GHG]

So how many steam accounts are there in the US?

Edit: nevermind, there's that pathetic "active" qualifier once again, which can mean anything at any point in time.

 

[BiohazardX95]

It's no.1 in PSN Usa

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Title states in the US.

Have a hard time believing steam skews that much more US

 

[RickMasters]

Put it on Xbox gamepass and boost your numbers even further. It’s a GAAS game. Should also remove the upfront cost by putting it into their PSN+ sub….. soonish….

 

[mejin]

 

[GHG]

Put it on Xbox gamepass and boost your numbers even further. It’s a GAAS game. Should also remove the upfront cost by putting it into their PSN+ sub….. soonish….

It's so sad how you guys will go under instruction so easily.

 

[Solidus_T]

Didn't this game surpass Fortnite and COD on Playstation?

 

[graywolf323]

seems he even admits that this means nothing for how it sold on PlayStation vs. Steam

 

[demented waffle]

Have a hard time believing steam skews that much more US

Without actual numbers for each market, it's an exercise in futility. This is also US vs global.

 

[gothmog]

So what?

 

[Three]

Last time we got real MAU numbers that was not the case

This is MAU vs DAU. US vs Global. That's useless.

 

[Jigsaah]

I bought it on Steam. I buy almost all Sony exclusives on Steam because I want them to continue this practice. Excellent game Sony. Keep em comin'

 

[Topher]

Is this a new metric Piscatella has suddenly come up with? Ratios of Steam vs console?

 

[Topher]

Dude asked Piscatella where his PS numbers came from.



Reply....



Supposedly the post that caused Piscatella to block him....

 

[R3claimer117]

lol I knew people would crucify him for this but he’s right the majority or players are on steam.

 

[RickMasters]

It's so sad how you guys will go under instruction so easily.

Lol… projecting much? It’s so sad how you think you know people, that you don’t know and that then all with the same brush. All because cause they don’t play on you’re fave box.

I thought “when everybody played we all win” though? To paraphrase my fellow gaffers quoting phil….. wasn’t that what you guys were all saying the other day before MS podcast, thingy?


Now I put out the idea of a Sony Published GAAS game on all platforms it’s suddenly a thing? Where do you think I’ll be playing marathon? I’m one of the same people who said sea of theives and grounded were great ideas on other platforms…. That just how I feel about GAAS. I don’t think they should have an upfront cost when they have so much back end stuff to make their money back on. And I feel that to make that money you should have it in as many places as possible. But here you go with your usual fuckery talk


Are you sure you are not ass of can whippins alt account?

 

[GHG]

Is this a new metric Piscatella has suddenly come up with? Ratios of Steam vs console?

Seems like it. And there's no way of verifying anything because he's not divulging in any details/statistics.

For a start, what qualifies an account as "active" to them and is that consistent across both platforms?

Because I have a hard time believing that 1 in 4 steam accounts in the US are playing the game considering how big Steam is now.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Dude asked Piscatella where his PS numbers came from.

I mean you have to assume Circana has access to data the public doesn’t

 

[jm89]

Dude asked Piscatella where his PS numbers came from.

Can't say i'm surprised.

Him and dring the 2 sales dudes have a massive attitude problem, and get bent out of shape if you ask for more info to make sense of things.

 

[GHG]

Lol… projecting much? It’s so sad how you think you know people, that you don’t know and that then all with the same brush. All because cause they don’t play on you’re fave box.

I thought “when everybody played we all win” though? To paraphrase my fellow gaffers quoting phil….. wasn’t that what you guys were all saying the other day before MS podcast, thingy?


Now I put out the idea of a Sony Published GAAS game on all platforms it’s suddenly a thing? Where do you think I’ll be playing marathon? I’m one of the same people who said sea of theives and grounded were great ideas on other platforms…. That just how I feel about GAAS. I don’t think they should have an upfront cost when they have so much back end stuff to make their money back on. And I feel that to make that money you should have it in as many places as possible. But here you go with your usual fuckery talk

Look, the way I see it is that you have two choices here. Either you can continue being Phil's cuck, or you can take your own advice that you were very quick to express prior to his call to arms:

Lol….. have you not seen the Xbox line up this year? Xbox owners don’t need to beg for anything.

The usual port begging. Just ignore them.

Bingo!


It just comes across as some type of port begging that stinks of some weird sort of entitlement.

Choice is yours of course.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I highly doubt that it’s sold 10+ million on Steam…

This is USA only.

 

[Topher]

I mean you have to assume Circana has access to data the public doesn’t

Folks don't have to assume anything. Certainly nothing wrong in asking the question. Piscatella's reaction to being questioned raises more questions, imo.

Can't say i'm surprised.

Him and dring the 2 sales dudes have a massive attitude problem, and get bent out of shape if you ask for more info to make sense of things.

Reminds me of Jason Schrierer.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

helldivers success is massive and growing.

 

[T4keD0wN]

For a start, what qualifies an account as "active" to them and is that consistent across both platforms?

i think the amount of time logged in being equal or larger than 1 second is the only thing that classifies user as active for both on any given time period, its a worthless metric.

Concurrently online or better yet in-game would be useful.

We do know what their alleged maximum server capacity is, we do know how many people are in-game on steam, normally we could calculate the potential split if we assume the servers are at capacity by simply substracting it and then calculating the ratio, but the problem is that theres a lot of people who cannot get logged in on both platforms and such users would still counted as in-game on steam and that invalidates the numbers, so its completely impossible to give even a roughly accurate estimate.

Cant use sales either as a sale doesnt always translate to an active user, only ones who could have an accurate number are the developers, publishers and the server operators behind it.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Folks don't have to assume anything. Certainly nothing wrong in asking the question. Piscatella's reaction to being questioned raises more questions, imo.



Reminds me of Jason Schrierer.

NPD has been around forever, he’s not pulling this out of his ass

 

[graywolf323]

This is USA only.

we’ve seen it doing ~400k on both PS5 & Steam player concurrent player counts, do you honestly think Steam only has ~2 million daily active users in the USA while PS5 has a ton more?

Looking at the numbers in game, I would say its pretty even between platforms. Last night both had over 400k online

 

[GHG]

NPD has been around forever, he’s not pulling this out of his ass

NPD have been around forever but their engagement tracker thing is new.

The math isn't mathing here, even if we assume that all of the active player counts for Helldivers 2 are coming from the US on Steam.

 

[Alexios]

lol I knew people would crucify him for this but he’s right the majority or players are on steam.

Has nothing to do with my post, I can believe it sold way more on Steam, I don't believe it sold to 1 in 4 or that it has to in order to do way better than it did on PS5, even if restricted to a specific region only (I also don't see why such a game may have significantly more success in any single region).

Bitch please.

But hey he admitted it has nothing to do with sales and is just making a frivolous report/claim about how right now 1 in 4 active users are playing it vs whatever because it's something that can be true at this specific moment in time and wrong/not mean shit in the grand scheme of things too, it's bs.

 

[Astray]

we’ve seen it doing ~400k on both PS5 & Steam player concurrent player counts, do you honestly think Steam only has ~2 million daily active users in the USA while PS5 has a ton more?

Splits can be different between different regions. Playstation is very strong in non-US countries so it's likely that the ww split would be different.

I'd expect the split to skew in Steam's favor tho due to no Paid Online

 

[Interfectum]

 

[Tsaki]

Seems the Circana Player Trackers are pretty shit. Oh well, hope they stick with sales numbers

 

[onQ123]

Why did he feel the need to say it's mostly PC? Did he point that out for Pal World & other games?

 

[graywolf323]

Splits can be different between different regions. Playstation is very strong in non-US countries so it's likely that the ww split would be different.

I'd expect the split to skew in Steam's favor tho due to no Paid Online

except we know it’s the most played game on PSN in the US, higher than either Fortnite or COD

It's no.1 in PSN Usa

 

[Topher]

NPD has been around forever, he’s not pulling this out of his ass

And so he is above answering (or just ignoring them) simple questions and is right for outright blocking anyone who asked those questions about the data? Is that it?