the FTC is making the worst arguments than even the lower IQ average Neogafer.Quick summary so far?
it was just a thought experiment.MS lawyer asked Jim - Has MS not honoured any deal in past with PS or purposely released a broken or bad versions of their game on PS? He said NO. Then lawyers ask - what reason he has now to believe they will do it with CoD? On what basis he saying PS version will be bad or downgraded?. He said he has no reason to believe they will do it now? That gotta be a mic drop moment.
After that, He also downplayed his old email, by saying he couldn't understand what could happen and didn't grasp seriousness of the deal that time blah blah. i mean CEO of PS couldn't understand what will happen when MS buys ABK? He just lied shamelessly there :/
He also gave no answer to FF related questions and also to the question what he will do with CoD if it Sony acquired ABK? He just remain quiet and gave no answer to these 2 questions.
MS lawyers really made him sweat at the end looks like.
It's looking like this deal will go through now
Personally I think the deal (if it goes through) should have some sort of stipulation enforced by the regulators along the lines of "if you don't properly make use of your existing studios (which would include ActiBliz by then) you're not acquiring any more studoios/publishers".It's looking like this deal will go through now, and Microsoft will be able to force Sony out by default within the next 10 years, Sony's argument's weren't strong enough in the FTC hearing, Jim Ryan has failed imo.
Microsoft will have the ability to buy up more, they'll get more pushback but it won't matter... This deal will make third party studios weaker and be forced to join the Microsoft eco system because there won't be anywhere else to go in the long run.
They will close it everywhere and figure something else for UK. They will just make ABK separate entity for UK.On what grounds?
It’s blocked by the CMA
This court appearance by the FTC is mere entertainment at this point. It doesn’t change the UK’s stance
They're hooked on a FEELING.On what grounds?
It’s blocked by the CMA
This court appearance by the FTC is mere entertainment at this point. It doesn’t change the UK’s stance
The CMA will be bypassed via a loophole be it a new company to allow them to practice in the UK, it will be costly but that cost won't be any way near the loss of being out of the UK altogether.On what grounds?
It’s blocked by the CMA
This court appearance by the FTC is mere entertainment at this point. It doesn’t change the UK’s stance
The CMA will be bypassed via a loophole be it a new company to allow them to practice in the UK, it will be costly but that cost won't be any way near the loss of being out of the UK altogether.
The CMA will be bypassed via a loophole be it a new company to allow them to practice in the UK, it will be costly but that cost won't be any way near the loss of being out of the UK altogether.
2 is between 1 and 3.
We're learning today guys.
It would be cheaper for MS to buy Russia and then have Putin invade the UK TBHMicrosoft will just buy the UK.
I don't think so and i'm very curious what MS's next moves are when the deals fail. I would laugh my ass off if they said fuck this shit we are selling everything and stop making consoles.It's looking like this deal will go through now
"Shakka43"I'm gonna call your name out when I finish. Thank you.
They will close it everywhere and figure something else for UK. They will just make ABK separate entity for UK.
They were considering it that's why FTC went to court for injunction.
Personally I think the deal (if it goes through) should have some sort of stipulation enforced by the regulators along the lines of "if you don't properly make use of your existing studios (which would include ActiBliz by then) you're not acquiring any more studoios/publishers".
Reason I say that is because it just feels like Microsoft bought a bunch of developers, doesn't have all that much to show for it, and now wants to buy more. Also I don't see how acquiring ActiBliz would provide gamers with tangible benefits beyond their titles being on Game Pass. Specifically, I'm saying I don't see how Microsoft owning Activision Blizzard will lead to them making better games. It's not like ActiBliz can't fund their own games (same applies to Zenimax to be honest, I still don't understand what we gain from Microsoft buying them beyond their stuff going on Game Pass.
They will close it everywhere and figure something else for UK. They will just make ABK separate entity for UK.
They were considering it that's why FTC went to court for injunction.
You all need to look at how much Mobile gaming generates in revenue, and at the same time look at the vast majority of shit games that is out there.... This is the future of console/PC gaming once this deal is passed.
How so?Twitter is coming down hard on this thread... god damn
The takes are getting worse and worse as new people that hadn't been following through join in the discussionHow so?
I've given up on Twitter anyway WRT the acquisitions since it's pretty much all Xbox shills (seriously some of the "enthusiasm" seems ...sponsored?) patting each other on the back.Twitter is coming down hard on this thread... god damn
That's just Twitter in general. It's a hive of stupidity and bots.The takes are getting worse and worse as new people that hadn't been following through join in the discussion
The only thing existing custmers win, is more day 1 games in GP. But that will also change in some way, either with price increases, budget decreases or less output. Microsoft is using fuck you money to eradicate competition, in the end the industry will lose.
If it were that easy then every acquisition would go through.The CMA will be bypassed via a loophole be it a new company to allow them to practice in the UK, it will be costly but that cost won't be any way near the loss of being out of the UK altogether.
Meta tried doing that with giphy, didn’t turn out well for them with that bold move cotton
If it were that easy then every acquisition would go through.
Same boat. Haven't bought or played COD in years. Not interested in Overwatch, Diablo, or World of Warcraft either. Never played those games.They don't seem to appreciate/care about the implications of allowing Microsoft to fail and then essentially bribe the referee in the form of buying up all the big publishers.
I don't care about COD at all (haven't done since Advanced Warfare with Kevin Spacey) and I think WoW is/was a case of "aint broke don't fix it" and Blizzard kept messing with it until it's become something I cannot even recognize anymore. No interest in Starcraft... faint passing interest in Diablo but not a dealbreaker.... so my issue is not with Microsoft specifically acquiring Activision. It's more the idea that it's not good for competition generally to let Microsoft do what it's doing.
"Shakka43"
"Shakk43!"
"SHAKKA43!!!!"
Pfft.CMA already saw through that. MS and ABK aren't even allowed to invest in each other by proxy. So they could section off ABK from the UK all they want. They would still be in violation of UK law, as MS itself would still operate in the UK. Their only option without being hauled into court, likely fined, and possibly forced to divest, would be for MS to completely leave the UK.
If they hire that expert from yesterday probably notPfft.
Microsoft will just change its name to SicroMoft and ABK to BKA, and CMA wouldn't even recognize it.
Same boat. Haven't bought or played COD in years. Not interested in Overwatch, Diablo, or World of Warcraft either. Never played those games.
So the games and their potential exclusivity is not an issue for me. But this deal is horrible, and should just die.
If Xbox can't compete even after 2 decades without spending daddy's money, then perhaps they don't deserve to be a relevant player in the industry. Someone else will pick up the mantle.
Then they'll leave the UK! Even if cost them another 70bn!CMA already saw through that. MS and ABK aren't even allowed to invest in each other by proxy. So they could section off ABK from the UK all they want. They would still be in violation of UK law, as MS itself would still operate in the UK. Their only option without being hauled into court, likely fined, and possibly forced to divest, would be for MS to completely leave the UK.
Pfft.
Microsoft will just change its name to SicroMoft and ABK to BKA, and CMA wouldn't even recognize it.
If it doesnt matter to you why does it matter to you?Same boat. Haven't bought or played COD in years. Not interested in Overwatch, Diablo, or World of Warcraft either. Never played those games.
So the games and their potential exclusivity is not an issue for me. But this deal is horrible, and should just die.
Already explained it in the comment. It's a horrible deal that's bad for the industry. Very anti-competitive and monopolistic in nature.If it doesnt matter to you why does it matter to you?
Because it's bad forIf it doesnt matter to you why does it matter to you?
Even if it costs Microsoft $100 billion, they will get Diablo 4 and COD on Game Pass because they love their players that much!Then they'll leave the UK! Even if cost them another 70bn!
Because all that matters, all that is important is that a few men-children get to rent COD and Diablo instead of buying them.
Already explained it in the comment. It's a horrible deal that's bad for the industry. Very anti-competitive and monopolistic in nature.
But you dont care about ABK so why do you care??
factsSoooo, in summary
Jim Ryan
- somehow thinks that Xbox Series X is supply constrained and is selling good
- Murica players likes shooty shooty stuff and that's why COD is more popular there
- he doesn't remember if he met with regulatory bodies after october 2022 (wtf?)
- Nintendo is somehow part of console market but they are not Sony's competitor (???)
- Nintendo is played by bunch of kids despite fact that Nintendo infographic proves otherwise
- Don't think that Starfield exclusivity is anti-competitive (unlike PS fans around here)
- Thinks that COD devs would sabotage PS version of COD despite fact that there is no proof that Microsoft ever did it with PS versions of their games
- He flipped because Microsoft promised him Overwatch 1 and not Overwatch 2 despite game being SAME SKU (wtf?)
- thinks that Microsoft would engage in partial foreclosure of COD because of Game Pass despite Microsoft offering him ability to put COD into PS Plus day one
- He "doesn't listen to calls" where he said to the investors that he doesn't think that Activision merger would hurt Sony (wtf?)
- He "doesn't know" if they could be competitve if deal goes through
- He refused to negotiate deal with Bobby Kotick to have COD on PlayStation
- Publishers "unanimously" don't like Game Pass (despite the fact that many of them are putting day one games into Game Pass like Square Enix, Capcom, Ubisoft, Focus Entertainment etc.)
Yeah. It was fun
I've already told you. Read my comments.But you dont care about ABK so why do you care??
Maybe he can see the forest.
Soooo, in summary
Jim Ryan
- somehow thinks that Xbox Series X is supply constrained and is selling good (unlike people around here)
- Murica players likes shooty shooty stuff and that's why COD is more popular there
- he doesn't remember if he met with regulatory bodies after october 2022 (wtf?)
- Nintendo is somehow part of console market but they are not Sony's competitor (???)
- Nintendo is played by bunch of kids despite fact that Nintendo infographic proves otherwise
- Don't think that Starfield exclusivity is anti-competitive (unlike PS fans around here)
- Thinks that COD devs would sabotage PS version of COD despite fact that there is no proof that Microsoft ever did it with PS versions of their games
- He flipped because Microsoft promised him Overwatch 1 and not Overwatch 2 despite game being SAME SKU (wtf?)
- thinks that Microsoft would engage in partial foreclosure of COD because of Game Pass despite Microsoft offering him ability to put COD into PS Plus day one
- He "doesn't listen to calls" where he said to the investors that he doesn't think that Activision merger would hurt Sony (wtf?)
- He "doesn't know" if they could be competitve if deal goes through (isn't he CEO of SIE though?)
- He refused to negotiate deal with Bobby Kotick to have COD on PlayStation
- Publishers "unanimously" don't like Game Pass (despite the fact that many of them are putting day one games into Game Pass like Square Enix, Capcom, Ubisoft, Focus Entertainment etc.)
- Does not think that cloud gaming is separate market (HAHAHAHAHA)
Yeah. It was fun
Meanwhile, ABK share price is almost at 85$. So I guess that market also agrees that FTC is making spectacular job...to not have PI
Same. Only good thing ABK have put out in the last 15 years is THPS 1&2, Spyro/Crash remasters.Same boat. Haven't bought or played COD in years. Not interested in Overwatch, Diablo, or World of Warcraft either. Never played those games.
So the games and their potential exclusivity is not an issue for me. But this deal is horrible, and should just die.
If Xbox can't compete even after 2 decades without spending daddy's money, then perhaps they don't deserve to be a relevant player in the industry. Someone else will pick up the mantle.