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[FoxMcChief]

Wait, the judge seems smarter on this subject than him.

 

[SirKicksalot]

It's bad!
Why?
I DON'T KNOW!!!

 

[FlyyGOD]

This guy fumbling all over the place.

 

[HoofHearted]

..... the lack of understanding by the FTC lawyer here on what he's attempting to argue is mind-numbing....

 

[8BiTw0LF]

Nice move by MS to use a female lawyer. The female judge is a feminist 100%

 

[GHG]

I hope this guy doesn't have any aspirations of ever working anywhere other than the FTC. Because it ain't happening.

 

[Astray]

When Hoeg of all people starts to set-up a U-turn..

 

[Thirty7ven]

MS’s case is all about taking their good word. Specially on Cloud.

 

[Rossco EZ]

I hope this guy doesn't have any aspirations of ever working anywhere other than the FTC. Because it ain't happening.

he could go to mcdonalds at least

 

[bender]

I hope this guy doesn't have any aspirations of ever working anywhere other than the FTC. Because it ain't happening.

Don't be so harsh.

 

[8BiTw0LF]

More consumers - who use Windows and Xbox...

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

MS’s case is all about taking their good word. Specially on Cloud.

If only there was another bought out publisher they could refer to

 

[solidus12]

I'm still hoping for a twist wherein the FTC wins.

 

[Thirty7ven]

“More consumers” etc but the point is that MS isn’t the one that gets to pick winners and losers. They can’t get away from this argument.

 

[Basil King]

Anyone got links?
I can only read about how bad the FTC is being so much before needing to hear it myself.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Time for me to be a Dad and feed my kids. That was fun. Later folks.

 

[LiquidRex]

So how's it looking, is the FTC sabotaging their chances of winning this?

 

[PaintTinJr]

"I don't think we won" - FTC Lawyer

Whelp ......

He was talking lack of ability to analyse if the 10year deals being a win for gamers, and the FTC "winning" by having got other providers deals as a Microsoft concession for the merger

 

[HoofHearted]

LMFAO .... "I'm getting head nods... yes"... Holy Shit.

 

[3liteDragon]

Let him cook.

That FTC lawyer:

 

[DrFigs]

Well this judge is smarter than I thought

 

[LordCBH]

I'm still hoping for a twist wherein the FTC wins.

I want trial by combat.

 

[8BiTw0LF]

Anyone got links?
I can only read about how bad the FTC is being so much before needing to hear it myself.

https://kick.com/707555

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Has nobody made the point that Minecraft is multiplatform strictly cause of Notch and not because Microsoft were so concerned about the player base?

 

[ToadMan]

The FTC's doing much better on cloud arguments than the console ones.

EDIT: Bringing up good points that MS conveniently offered no contracts on cloud for Google and Amazon.

Cloud is an easier angle both because MS is easily the leader in the market and because harm will happen almost immediately the acquisition closes - ABK content will immediately come to MS cloud and be excluded from appearing on the largest cloud competitors in the US.

GFN has their deal - but that is an additional sub for B2P when a GPU sub gets that content and cloud access bundled.

 

[FoxMcChief]

When I try to leave, the judge sucks me back in, lol. Sony should up their subscription game with day 1 releases.

 

[Varteras]

Like every other publisher?

you think SE puts their shit on Sony first because they like Sony?
They do it because they can make money.

when they put it on another console- they also make money lol.

Those 10-year deals give Microsoft ample room to walk. And they get to keep ALL the money made. Not the typical 70/30 split. They keep 100%. That is not typical and if those are the kind of deals you're talking about, you're a fool for believing that is normal or a deal Sony shouldn't have turned down

 

[GHG]

When I try to leave, the judge sucks me back in, lol. Sony should up their subscription game with day 1 releases.

If you have a desire to kill them faster, then sure.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

"Why won't Sony just make their subscription better" is like saying "Why not instead of buying Activision Microsoft just make better games?".

 

[Rossco EZ]

When I try to leave, the judge sucks me back in, lol. Sony should up their subscription game with day 1 releases.

Varteras is that you?

 

[Kilau]

When I try to leave, the judge sucks me back in, lol. Sony should up their subscription game with day 1 releases.

You are going to send Varteras over the edge.

 

[Thirty7ven]

This is the entire case here.

Yet the judge keeps making it complicated. It’s better for the consumer when these competitor compete for third party content.

 

[RickMasters]

Well yeah, kinda hard to remove a game already out. And why didn't they despite Spencer wanting to when he can make that call?

but minecraft dungeons and heroes were made long after that aquisition...... you might find it hard to believe but maybe they actually wanted to continue to keep minecraft's fanbase as one unified thing regardless of platform and keep games set in that world, as multiplatform to keep that player base together? its perfectly plausible.

 

[adamsapple]

When I try to leave, the judge sucks me back in, lol. Sony should up their subscription game with day 1 releases.

Hand the kid a bow and let them hunt their food. This is interesting lol

 

[Larvana]

This is the entire case here.

Yet the judge keeps making it complicated. It’s better for the consumer when these competitor compete for third party content.

I hope you never become a judge or lawyer, jesus.

 

[Ansphn]

When Hoeg of all people starts to set-up a U-turn..

So the CMA was right all along.

 

[8BiTw0LF]

"Why won't Sony just make their subscription better" - because they don't have infinite money like Microsoft...

This judge...

 

[LordCBH]

Sony should up their subscription game with day 1 releases.

Why would they do that when they currently sell a fuck ton of copies day one?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

They already fucking told you why. Bobby fucking told you why

Omfg

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

The obvious reason Sony doesn't do Day 1 for their games on PS+ is because it's not financially feasible for their business model.

MS can tank the losses in B2P sales revenue left on the table with Day 1 Game Pass access, and even they are (rightfully) shifting away from that with the early access for FH5 and now Starfield.

 

[splattered]

This is such a wild ride, this is better than any videogame ever haha

 

[Rossco EZ]

yes it comes down to cod, a massive game that makes mega money. yes judge YES

 

[bender]

Always follow the lead of 3rd place competitor.

 

[DrFigs]

The MS lawyer is trying to confuse the judge

 

[HoofHearted]

COD vs. Hogwarts... ding ding..

 

[Not_A-Cop_Maybe]

Those 10-year deals give Microsoft ample room to walk. And they get to keep ALL the money made. Not the typical 70/30 split. They keep 100%. That is not typical and if those are the kind of deals you're talking about, you're a fool for believing that is normal or a deal Sony shouldn't have turned down

Sure.

But i dont think Nintendo, Nvidia and who ever else would sign something if this deal was not giving them some additional benefit. But you are absoloutely right- for all we know ms makes all the money. I dont think that Nintendo 4x larger player base would suffer. Based on this- everyone is getting something out of the deal.

Seems like a win- win again.

Seems Sony is just unhappy at the thought they wont make as much money- or that MS will get a piece of the pie when people but it on PS- at least for 10 years.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Judge said Hogwarts by name. ResetERA hates her now.

 

[GHG]

They already fucking told you why. Bobby fucking told you why

Omfg

Please understand, Phil's amnesia is contagious.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Holy fucking god she made the argument

 

[adamsapple]

"But other games come and go .. like MySpace"