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Mike Ybarra - Tipping Game Creators $10 or $20 on Top of the $70 Price is a Great Idea.
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YeulEmeralda
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Single mom working the night shift at a coffee shop? Sure.
Game developer? Get a job.
Game developer? Get a job.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
He did mentioned Elden Ring which was fantastic game without having high tech graphics or any GaaS crap and sold damn well and soon they are about release big expansion which I will gladly pay.
reinking
Gold Member
No. It really doesn't make it any more or any less palatable than it is now. People have already accepted microtransactions. If anything, "tipping" might make it less so because they are not going to take away one way to take in money just because the other exists.
I do not mind the occasional price increase, I do not recall saying anything negative about the increase to $70, but studios/publishers are always going to want more money. There is no ceiling because if they hit that one, they will raise the roof to new heights. What should happen as they get close to that ceiling, they should rein in their budgets and our expectations. Could it lead to more AA instead and less AAA? Maybe. Would it matter if we are playing good games? Probably not. My point is, the market needs to go on a diet and will correct itself if we stop overfeeding it every time a predatory practice is implemented.
I want to make one more point about the video game industry constantly asking for more money these days and then I will shut up. Some people like to point out that console gaming is on its way out because less young people are entering the market. Do you think it might have something to do with the cost of gaming these days? I am not talking about the cost of the consoles or $70 games. I am talking about the stuff you seem to like. I can see where non-gaming parents are going to say fuck the right off to a kid wanting $70+ for a video game and then wanting an additional $30-$100+ to get the full enjoyment out of it. Not to mention that "online" tax we have to pay. IMO, the constant price gouging is not going to be what saves the video game industry, but what is going to kill it.
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ZVWQP-9B8TM-VH9CT
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Nah, I won't tip anyone, they have tons of money. If the devs want more money, they should start by firing those who "work" at the useless diversity departments within the company.
poodaddy
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DaGwaphics
Member
I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to have a donation option available of some kind. As long as it is totally optional. I can see people that put a lot of time into some of these games wanting to contribute as a thank you to the devs for keeping things running.
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
I agree with this that if you want to show some love someone could get a higher edition.
My idea is that if I buy your game, I’m tipping you.
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March Climber
Member
No way you’re stating this on a forum where 75% of it’s userbase gets thrown into a frenzy(and derails threads left and right) whenever they see three capital letters or a baby logo within orbit of any video game.
DaGwaphics
Member
Tippings getting out of hands had a couple of local places with tip jars on the drive thru window. What am I tipping you for at that point?
As long as its optional It isn't a big deal to me. Funniest one I've seen is a non-charity tip jar at a convenient store counter. LOL
Solarstrike
Gold Member
How about a tip jar for the user end for once. One where people all over the world can contribute, just for gamers and gamers only to buy games with. When it gets up to a Trillion dollars, they could vote on which studios to buy and force to make good games instead of trash like 3 million rogue-likes and deck-builders.
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ZehDon
Gold Member
That's... not how business works. Anywhere. "Oh you enjoyed the thing? You should give them more money!" No no - that's not a special thing that earns superfluous financial gains above the sticker price. That's what the sticker price should represent: a product I enjoy. That's not "above and beyond", that's just the baseline.
Only in an industry that posts record profits and then fires 15% of its work force, hands its executives eight digit salaries with seven digit bonuses, rides USD$300m budgets to deliver bloated one-and-done wanna-be movies or astoundingly incomplete GaaS MTX factories, whose developers lecture, insult, berate, denigrate, and ostracise huge swaths of their customers, and have open distain for the fans and customers who supported and built this industry over the last 60 years, could they look at the state of things and unironically proclaim "We deserve free money!". No wonder this industry is spiralling towards a crash. Speed the fucking day.
Only in an industry that posts record profits and then fires 15% of its work force, hands its executives eight digit salaries with seven digit bonuses, rides USD$300m budgets to deliver bloated one-and-done wanna-be movies or astoundingly incomplete GaaS MTX factories, whose developers lecture, insult, berate, denigrate, and ostracise huge swaths of their customers, and have open distain for the fans and customers who supported and built this industry over the last 60 years, could they look at the state of things and unironically proclaim "We deserve free money!". No wonder this industry is spiralling towards a crash. Speed the fucking day.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Dominoes pizza has a tip option when you buy a pizza online for pick up. lol
Nydius
Member
I ain't tipping mystery "devs" who have salaried jobs. Imagine if I started demanding tips from coworkers because I fixed their computer or maintained their network (aka my job). I'd be laughed out of the office. Beyond that, the games he listed have hundreds of people who work on them. Who, exactly, would any "tip" go to? This wouldn't work out the way he thinks it would. Management would just collect all the tips and hoard them, like a bad tip-pooling restaurant.
Ybarra posted the stupidest take I've read on the internet this week, and that's saying something.
Ybarra posted the stupidest take I've read on the internet this week, and that's saying something.
Guerilla Munch
Member
Here come all the triggered entitied snowflakes to shit on tipping. Guess what chuds, good people tip.
Every week, without fail, I make sure to tip my favorite game developers, my landlord, and my wife's boyfriend. Don't like it? Find a new hobby.
Every week, without fail, I make sure to tip my favorite game developers, my landlord, and my wife's boyfriend. Don't like it? Find a new hobby.
phaedrus
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Ah yes.
The good ol Alumni Donations letters you get in the mail. My parents have been getting them since I graduate in the 90s because I never changed my mailing address.
So let me get this straight. You want alumni money from me to build more buildings and pay profs more and I get nothing o t of it going forward. No thanks.
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Management should be 'tipping' you when your game performs really well in the form of bonuses. But lets be real, all those go to senior managers or the publisher. Tips would go to the same useless people who didn't do any of the work. Maybe just start a go fund me or something. The idea is pretty insulting honestly in this envrioment. A lot of the world doesn't have a 'tipping' culture too.
FinalBossWithTheMostPower
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ThatStupidLion
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Horse armor has leveled up.
Last Hearth
Member
This already happens, deluxe editions are basically a tip. DLC also, most DLCs cost anywhere from 1/6($10) to 1/3($20) of the full game, while the actual content is more like 1/10th or less of the full regular game, people buy DLC as much as a way of thanking the developer for the game so they don’t object to the pricing.
IAmRei
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If i could, yes i would pay more than 100. I'm below average in income compared in big countries. But if there is an option for it, i will.
But i only have small list for those who i want to give more.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Sleepwalker
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Sure, I'll tip developers if I finish their game and end up loving it.
On the flipside I expect a full refund and maybe a coupon for a free game next time if I find it to be utter shit.
What's that? No? Didn't think so.
On the flipside I expect a full refund and maybe a coupon for a free game next time if I find it to be utter shit.
What's that? No? Didn't think so.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Video games have a few advantages over other industries when it comes to grifting.
1. Digital payments at the click of a button. E-tipping is really just an extension on current mtx or dlc. Except this time you get nothing out of it. Not even a shitty horse armour or faded wallpaper
2. Game companies chum up with gamers in hopes they connect with the game company. Whether it's the twitter handler, coder, director or whomever is the face of the studio gabbing, they try to get gamer's attention
Add it up, and they are trying to play with people's emotions. If they can convince you that you are part of their one big happy family and their coders need extra cash on top of their six-digit salaries and record sales/profits which most big game companies at (or close to it), it'll may make you buy more shit contributing to their corporate coffers. In this example, tipping. Other companies typically cant do these points as most arent digital downloads and quick payments and most companies simply sell you a product or service and that's the end of it. You dont have Samsung or your local plumber egging you on for e-store purchases, donations, tipping or trying to be your best buddy.
Do what you want gamers, but I know i wont fall for any of this grifting.
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
NecrosaroIII
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We need to destroy tipping.
Negotiator101
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
Please give me a single rational reason why worker group X should be tipped for doing their job but not group Y. You cannot. Unless you think everyone should be tipped, which is also a pretty insane idea.