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NeoGAF Games of the Seventh Generation Awards
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tiebreaker
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Ni No Kuni not in top 10... Not even top 50 is an abomination.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Dark Souls above DeS, as it should.
TLOU still overrated as fuck.
TLOU still overrated as fuck.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
An expected #1, only thing that could have knocked it is Galaxy 2 cannibalizing its votes.
Magic Mushroom
Member
C'mon, these are quality games. And Gamestop wouldn't have games like Demon's Souls or Bayonetta in any list.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone have the same reason for preferring Galaxy 1 over 2 as me.
Galaxy 2 is too hard, or at least harder than I'd typically want a Mario game to be. The Perfect Run is just....kinda brutal for the series' standards, and so are some of those daredevil run stars in that game. Don't hurt me for this opinion k thnx
Thanks to BC you can play catherine and Dead Space though
Those aren't native ports AFAIK - just emulators?
You might be right about not being native because they run better than they did in the 360 but it would be silly to not consider them because of it
Megatron
Member
Wow, Zelda performed terribly this gen.
On the PC list, shouldn't portal and team fortress not be on there? They are both on consoles. I voted portal #1 and I only played it on 360 as part of the Orange Box.
Also I agree that the galaxy games should be on the platform exclusives list. What's the difference between those and red dead? I can go into my xb1 and buy and play red dead, just like I can go into my wiiu and buy and play the galaxy games.
Great work Ani, I love looking at these numbers!
On the PC list, shouldn't portal and team fortress not be on there? They are both on consoles. I voted portal #1 and I only played it on 360 as part of the Orange Box.
Also I agree that the galaxy games should be on the platform exclusives list. What's the difference between those and red dead? I can go into my xb1 and buy and play red dead, just like I can go into my wiiu and buy and play the galaxy games.
Great work Ani, I love looking at these numbers!
NipplesAndToes23
Member
I never had the chance to play Galaxy 2 so I voted for 1.
I think my main reason is that Super Mario Galaxy is incredibly original and creative, there's pretty much nothing like it. But when SMG2 came out, well, there was something like it. So it could never recapture that sense of wonder.
But the second reason hits very close to what you say that SMG2 is at times too difficult. The reason I find SMG1 the best game of the generation and maybe the best game ever, is that basically captures that feeling of the garden of Mario 64 and then creates an entire game out of it. The way you soar, somersault and loop the loop through and over planets, it's half platformer, half performance art. It regularly feels like the platforms are not laid out to create obstacles, but rather the opposite, they are scaffolding to create kinesthetically pleasing movement patterns. And because the game is not very challenging it lets you free to move the way you want. It's essentially a game about self expression. Very unique in the AAA sphere.
SMG2 and SM3DW put much higher demands on the player, making the game system driven instead of player driven. That killed the self expression.
Great list overall, only things I really disagree with are the two Mass Effect games and Uncharted 2 being in the top 10.
My quick top 10 since I missed voting:
1. World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade/Wrath of the Lich King (can't choose between the two expansions, both belong to the golden age of WoW)
2. Super Mario Galaxy 2
3. Dark Souls
4. Fallout: New Vegas
5. Warhawk
6. Demon's Souls
7. Grand Theft Auto V
8. Red Dead Redemption
9. The Last of Us
10. Bayonetta
I feel bad for leaving my two favorite playing TPS, Vanquish and Max Payne 3 off this list.
My quick top 10 since I missed voting:
1. World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade/Wrath of the Lich King (can't choose between the two expansions, both belong to the golden age of WoW)
2. Super Mario Galaxy 2
3. Dark Souls
4. Fallout: New Vegas
5. Warhawk
6. Demon's Souls
7. Grand Theft Auto V
8. Red Dead Redemption
9. The Last of Us
10. Bayonetta
I feel bad for leaving my two favorite playing TPS, Vanquish and Max Payne 3 off this list.
Mr.Deadshot
Member
That's true. Fallout 1+2 are very different from 3+NV. I didn't like FO3, but I really liked NV. But F1+2 are true classics and like you said: It's hard to ignore the yank in the newer Fallout games. I played the GOTY-version of Fallout NV on PC, so I didn't have too many problems with bugs.
I wouldn't have Bayonetta in this list, too
But like I said: tastes differ.R_thanatos
Member
When you have so many great games , it's actually refreshing to see this list.
Glad to see that journey ranked 20th
Glad to see that journey ranked 20th
Boss Man
Member
Good list, I will add my ultimately meaningless disagreements:
1. Seems like some of the "PC" games like Portal and Skyrim got shafted really hard.
2. I don't understand how The Last of Us could be so high. I like UC2's spot, despite not personally being totally enamored with that game either.
3. I was gonna get pissy about Dark Souls until I saw Demon's Souls was right with it, good on you.
If it was my list I'd yank TLOU out and drop it above Mass Effect, then push everything else up.
The top three sandbox games should be Red Dead, Skyrim, and Minecraft in whatever order. <- Quality | Impact ->
1. Seems like some of the "PC" games like Portal and Skyrim got shafted really hard.
2. I don't understand how The Last of Us could be so high. I like UC2's spot, despite not personally being totally enamored with that game either.
3. I was gonna get pissy about Dark Souls until I saw Demon's Souls was right with it, good on you.
If it was my list I'd yank TLOU out and drop it above Mass Effect, then push everything else up.
The top three sandbox games should be Red Dead, Skyrim, and Minecraft in whatever order. <- Quality | Impact ->
Spine_Ripper
Member
Like always, I never vote on these but am always interested in what GAF thinks. No gripes about anything, but I will say I'm surprised to see GTA V at 21. Thought for sure it would have been top 10 lol.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
It sometimes gets forgotten in the sea of classics on the PS2 gen, but the last generation had some absolutely fantastic games. Glad to see them being remembered well.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Beautifully put together
And lots of really good games
And lots of really good games
Psychoward
Banned
Fallout 3 being there and not New Vegas triggers me so much, this is my punishment for not voting. (edit: nevermind I'm dumb and can't read)
also journey in the top 25 is legitimately surprising
and while I'm at it, Super Mario Galaxy at 1 is great, not my first choice but probably the best 3rd person platformer I've ever played so I can't hate.
Last of Us at number 2 is expected but still blegh, Mass Effect 2 being that high makes me happy cause I know it'll set off the RPGCodex fans of the world but 1 should still be higher.
also journey in the top 25 is legitimately surprising
and while I'm at it, Super Mario Galaxy at 1 is great, not my first choice but probably the best 3rd person platformer I've ever played so I can't hate.
Last of Us at number 2 is expected but still blegh, Mass Effect 2 being that high makes me happy cause I know it'll set off the RPGCodex fans of the world but 1 should still be higher.
It's quite the opposite. The game gets a lot of praise here.
Though some would suggest its a bit overrated.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Yeah, I still have a ton of shit to play on this. I'm still on this gen.
For PS3 I want to play: 3D Dot Game Heroes, Little Big Planet 2, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, Persona 4, MAG, infamous 2, God of War III, Dragon Age Origins, Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed 2, Tekken Tag 2, The Resistance games
360: Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey
Wii: Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mad World, No More Heroes, No More Heroes II, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Super Paper Mario, Punch-Out, Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story
DS: Ace Attorney series, Professor Layton, The World Ends with You, Mario Kart DS, Mario & Luigi games, Scribblenauts
PSP: Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep, Jeanne D'Arc, Daxter, Secret Agent Clank, Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions
I'd argue Trails in the Sky deserves to carry the banner for the PSP list, rather than being thrown unceremoniously into the multi-platform pile. The Steam port didn't come until well into 2014, years after the initial PSP release. I'm aware the original Japanese PC release complicates things, but this being an English-language site, the amount of people that put it on their list because they played the original Japanese version of an RPG with a staggering amount of dialogue is negligible, if not nonexistent.
On that note, why are Portal, TF2, Alan Wake, and Mark of the Ninja heading up lists of platform exclusives rather than being considered multi-platform? Those were released day-and-date onto multiple platforms. (Okay, TF2 I can see the argument for since console support for it dropped off a cliff while it got tons of PC support and additions. Still, though.)
On that note, why are Portal, TF2, Alan Wake, and Mark of the Ninja heading up lists of platform exclusives rather than being considered multi-platform? Those were released day-and-date onto multiple platforms. (Okay, TF2 I can see the argument for since console support for it dropped off a cliff while it got tons of PC support and additions. Still, though.)
Moff
Member
wow, no surprise they never bothered to release a sequel
somehow I never noticed this vote, but my top 10 would surely have looked a lot different
in hindsight, I don't think it was a very strong generation, the next one is already a lot better. thanks mostly to Dark Souls I think, because finally gamers are taken seriously again. Even if Dark Souls was not my personal #1 of it's gen, it sure was the most important game in it.
Iva Demilcol
Member
Only 2 of the games I voted for made it to the top 25. Dunno if I should worry I'm disconnected from the rest of the community or not.
Anyways, I'm kind of puzzled about the inclusion of some games: I thought Final Fantasy Tactics and Persona 3 Portable didn't count. They would've been part of my list. (And my list would ended up looking even more disconnected, I guess).
Anyways, I'm kind of puzzled about the inclusion of some games: I thought Final Fantasy Tactics and Persona 3 Portable didn't count. They would've been part of my list. (And my list would ended up looking even more disconnected, I guess).
TheGreatLugia
Banned
I wasn't expecting to get quoted. It's neat to see that the top five games were all on my list, as well.
It would have been nice to see Xenoblade at least make the top ten, though.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
WipeOut HD, the racing game of the generation.
Feels so right.
How come F-Zero's not on the lis- oh wait lol
Feels so right.
How come F-Zero's not on the lis- oh wait lol
Huge Succeeded
Banned
It's disappointing to me that Civilization V didn't even crack the top 25, but then, it's mostly console gamers on this forum so I'm not super surprised. Still an excellent list :3
Rich Uncle Skeleton
Member
I put Galaxy 1 over Galaxy 2 for the same reason I put Demon's Souls over Dark Souls: it came first and was therefore more impactful. Actually, Galaxy 2 didn't even make my honorable mentions. I was bored playing it because to me it felt too similar, too soon.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
COD4 was robbed blind.
Another thing that's quite lame. A majority of the top 10 is made up of Mario Galaxy, Souls, and Mass Effect. I would have just let one from those series in, especially since the likes of Demon's Souls and Dark Souls barely differ, but not my rules or my list.
