HeisenbergFX4
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The Edge thats coming is actually an official Sony controller
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Now that Sony is licensing PS5 pro controllers, which will you be getting?
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01011001
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yeah but that one is overpriced as fuck :/
MarkMe2525
Member
Over the past few years I have come to the realization that, at least for me, wireless is over rated. If you sit within 10 feet of your console, a wired controller is superior. Less input lag and more importantly, I never ever have to worry about my controller charge. It's a little thing that ends up being very impactful.
In saying that, I finally bit the bullet and will be upgrading to the PS5 and would love to see a high quality wired dualsense controller. I have a wired "pro" controller for my Xbox and I love it.
In saying that, I finally bit the bullet and will be upgrading to the PS5 and would love to see a high quality wired dualsense controller. I have a wired "pro" controller for my Xbox and I love it.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
For what it brings to the table it is overpriced especially only have 2 paddles on the back.
When I play on Xbox I most use wired controller as well as I love the Razer controllers
01011001
Banned
I would get it if it had Hall-Effect Sensors... but it uses Sony's typical sticks, which are horrible to say the least.
just a few days ago my 2nd out of 3 DualSense controllers of mine started to get stick drift on the left stick.
and I already had 4 DualShock 4s and 1 DualSense with drift on the left stick.
it's astonishing how bad these are, I can almost make a mark in the calendar after buying a new one for when the old one starts developing drift. it's like clockwork... and it's almost always the left stick, presumably because pressing L3 while moving the stick wears down the model of sticks Sony uses really fast.
and to know that they'll just keep using those awful sticks in their super pricey premium controller as well makes them a definite pass.
only 2 paddles wouldn't be an issue for me, I don't use paddles in the first place usually (except back when I played Halo 5 since the butten layouts available all sucked ass so I had melee on a paddle)
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I am hoping someone makes Hall effect modules for this controller but then again adding cost to an already overpriced controller
Salmon Snake
Member
I'll get Dualsense Edge once it's on sale and hopefully there's a "Black Edition".
Playing fps games on Playstation feels so bad without the back button attachment.
Playing fps games on Playstation feels so bad without the back button attachment.
01011001
Banned
they can't be that expensive. Microsoft already uses Hall-Effect Sensors for the triggers ever since the original Xbox One controllers.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I think the Sony replacement modules were $20 each so if you go ahead and replace them both you are adding another $40 ish to an expensive controller
01011001
Banned
yeah but that's not something you can compare to a fully mass produced controller.
the Dreamcast also used them for both the triggers and the stick.
and there are relatively cheap Switch controllers coming out with Hall-Effect sticks as well. and those don't look half bad tbh
LavitzSlambert
Member
Each day I get closer to a 180 on my original stance and contemplate ordering a DualSense edge and an extra stick module or two. It’s expensive, it lacks certain features, but it might be the best option and will definitely be supported by Sony.
LegendOfKage
Gold Member
If you do your research, there are usually some good 3rd party accessories made in every console generation. I think it's harder to tell these days, now that so many official controllers run into stick drift issues. It can probably be confusing to determine if issues are happening because of inferior quality materials, or if a 3rd party controller is running into issues because it generally uses the same sort of design as the official controllers.
If you want pro-controller options with official controller features, your best option is probably a modded controller. I mentioned that before, but I thought I'd go into a bit more detail. Just be sure you look over all the options if you ever decide to buy one, as some builders remove haptic feedback only if you request it, while with others you have to pay to keep it. I'd also watch a lot more videos than this one, to get a better idea of reliability, but here's a nice recent overview of some of the options that are out there.
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01011001
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the issue is that doing research isn't easy especially for controllers.
most reviews of controllers are extremely lackluster. I almost never see anyone actually test deadzones, reaction curves, how precise the stick detects specific movement angles, how well it recenters, doing good input lag lests, or if specific scenarios give it issues.
great example of this, the 8bitdo Ultimate controller for Xbox. at first glance an amazing controller with top tier build quality.
but, after using it I found more and more issues with it.
in some games it does not register/send specific stick angles correctly. it especially has issues in games that have axial slowdown, even if it's super minor slowdown, like in Resident Evil 8.
in games like RE8 diagonal inputs on the right stick will result in extremely slowed down camera movement that feels extremely jarring and can very negatively impact gameplay.
doing further tests on PC reveals that the sticks used in the 8bitdo controllers often have extremely low precision, and will start jittering between 2 angles instead of reading and sending the correct stick angle you are holding it in.
(and yes I did try to correct these issues by looking through and using the controller's app)
and it's stuff like that that I found in many controllers I tried. in cheap ones and in expensive ones.
with first party controllers you can at least be assured that games are specifically tested with those controllers in mind, and the console is designed with the signals and quality of that specific controller in mind.
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LegendOfKage
Gold Member
Here's a video preview of Sony's new controller that isn't the least bit critical, but it is fairly informative. No questions about less battery life or only two back buttons here.
And here's a video review of the Victrix Pro BFG that is highly critical, but also has a lot of positive things to say about the controller. They also have some of the best video of the controller itself that I've seen.
And here's a video review of the Victrix Pro BFG that is highly critical, but also has a lot of positive things to say about the controller. They also have some of the best video of the controller itself that I've seen.
Sw0pDiller
Member
So much salt in here, I think op hoped nobody would go for the edge controller and this tread would follow another edge "hate" path. I feel the edge is an amazing controller and has full software integration. My dualsense controller never died on me during a gaming session. 5 to 8 hours is more than enough. Will not buy untill sale or even better: give me back button attachment!
PectacularOz
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I still have 2 launch day controllers that I switch out every 2 days due to use (mostly Battlefield) - zero drift.
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[Sigma]
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Bruh the new Victrix Pro BFG release date says February 3 now lol. At least Victrix has finally said something about it now but damn, I thought this shit was ready to go but it looks like it's coming in hot which is strange, they must of had a bad batch and something wasn't done right with them. May as well do it right at this point and add hall effects thumbsticks delaying it further.
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LegendOfKage
Gold Member
Ouch. I also have to wonder if manufacturing in China is going to lead to a lot of this sort of thing, considering their Covid situation.
Tams
Member
01011001
Banned
then you hit the jackpot...
2 of my 3 DualSense controllers have drift on the left stick... fun!
and I suspect my third one is developing a dead spot on the left stick when moving it to a certain angle.
The Stig
Member
well, I feel stupid.
My wonderful GF (who also bought me my PS5 btw) bought me a "pro" controller. But not one from this poll. It is the scuf reflex.
Just started using it. Its lovely.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I hate being that guy but once you get used to pro controllers its hard not going back
Just make sure you take the time to learn those back paddles as I messed up a lot getting used to them but now in certain games for me its second nature having paddles
Banjo64
cumsessed
A word of warning for all.
I bought an Elite Series 2 in September 2020. After returning the first one for a sticky A button, this one has worked flawlessly. Until a few days ago on Tinykin, when I noticed the RB wasn’t working for soap surf.
This controller has been used reasonably heavily (estimated 40 days, maybe a little more), but has been treated with extreme care.
By stroke of luck, protect my bubble were offering 3 years insurance (accidental damage/manufacturers fault) for £10 on Amazon when I purchased this. Hopefully all should be resolved in the coming weeks. If they send me a new one, it’s going on eBay.
I’ve also just bought the Electric Volt pad in the sales, so can still play.
That being said, 2 years for a product is completely below par. My Dualsense also developed drift after only playing GoW 2018/Astro (Sony were fantastic in replacing this).
It’s standard pads all the way for me from now on as I’m not paying £150 every 2 years.
I bought an Elite Series 2 in September 2020. After returning the first one for a sticky A button, this one has worked flawlessly. Until a few days ago on Tinykin, when I noticed the RB wasn’t working for soap surf.
This controller has been used reasonably heavily (estimated 40 days, maybe a little more), but has been treated with extreme care.
By stroke of luck, protect my bubble were offering 3 years insurance (accidental damage/manufacturers fault) for £10 on Amazon when I purchased this. Hopefully all should be resolved in the coming weeks. If they send me a new one, it’s going on eBay.
I’ve also just bought the Electric Volt pad in the sales, so can still play.
That being said, 2 years for a product is completely below par. My Dualsense also developed drift after only playing GoW 2018/Astro (Sony were fantastic in replacing this).
It’s standard pads all the way for me from now on as I’m not paying £150 every 2 years.
Tams
Member
The Elite controllers are known to be shoddily built and Microsoft seem to have done jack all to fix it.
Banjo64
cumsessed
100%.
With my Dualsense drifting after 40 hours of total play time, I’m not convinced by Sony’s build quality either. Anecdotal of course, just a word of warning to anyone thinking £200 will equal a longer lifespan.
Tams
Member
Yeah, but Sony's only widespread problems only seem to be with stuck drift, which all manufacturers are having problems with, as they all use the same supplier.
The Elite has many more problems.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
The elite controllers are known for shitty plastic in their bumpers and is usually their first place for failure.
For around $20 you can buy nice upgraded bumpers from Amazon and fix that problem really easily but for a premium product this is pretty unacceptable and a lot of people don’t want to pop these controllers open much like they don’t want to replace the dual sense battery
I have two elite controllers that I have had to replace the bumpers in
Rocco Schiavone
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Flutta
Banned
Does it work? Have you tried it?
Remember they had a similar solution for the DS4 but for some reason the battery i got was even worse…..
//DEVIL//
Member
looks at title......
I already got a new PS5 controller for my PC from the marketplace for almost half the price from one of those people who were forced to get the ps5 bundle and now selling it to offset some costs.
I ain't paying 100$ CAD after tax for a regular controller let alone half the price of a PS5.
scamming customers to the extreme. PASS.
I already got a new PS5 controller for my PC from the marketplace for almost half the price from one of those people who were forced to get the ps5 bundle and now selling it to offset some costs.
I ain't paying 100$ CAD after tax for a regular controller let alone half the price of a PS5.
scamming customers to the extreme. PASS.
LavitzSlambert
Member
I don’t trust these at all. If they can’t even pass US regulations to be legally sold here, there is something wrong. I also doubt these could be used in the Edge, let’s wait for a tear down before deciding if this fixes the battery life issue.
Rocco Schiavone
Member
I installed the battery twice in two dualsense controllers. No problems but if you know better your problem.
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LegendOfKage
Gold Member
I'm very disappointed that the official Sony controller only has two paddles, but disappointed is far from hate. I didn't hope that nobody would pick the official controller either.
More than anything, though, everything is relative. If Microsoft's flagship controller has four paddles and a much better battery life, then Sony's controller not keeping up with their competitor in every way is a missed opportunity.
LegendOfKage
Gold Member
I've seen people saying that their orders are finally being shipped, so it should be sometime next week when people start getting them. There should be a lot more reviews soon as well.
[Sigma]
Member
The other day 17th I got an update email saying that my order would be shipped on the 18th. So it's out(seen some people got their orders shipped directly through PDP). The thing is even though mine said I would get it by the 20th(today), Amazon never charged me and it has not shipped. Now, the controller is out of stock so it looks like I missed the first round(even though I ordered in November.) It doesn't look like every store released it though. Some still saying February 1st.
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Art The Clown
Banned
When do you think these will ship? I never ordered anything from Direct before.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
My Best Buy order still showing preordered with an estimated ship date of Feb 1st.
Now I will be watching for that email the next day or two and likely should have ordered direct on this one
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
You should have ordered direct for this one.
Putonahappyface
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TheGreatMusashi
Member
I’m going to have to do something. My DualSense right stick started drifting so bad almost all games are unplayable. It acts like it’s pushed all the way to the left at all times. Tried resetting it, disconnecting it, everything.
Sent in a repair request at Sony, they sent me back a confirmation number and the site says to check my email for further instructions on how to ship it to them.
That was 5 days ago, still haven’t received an email on what to do with this thing. Sucks, it’s the only one I’ve got.
Once this one is fixed I’ll probably pick up the official one and keep this one as a backup.
Sent in a repair request at Sony, they sent me back a confirmation number and the site says to check my email for further instructions on how to ship it to them.
That was 5 days ago, still haven’t received an email on what to do with this thing. Sucks, it’s the only one I’ve got.
Once this one is fixed I’ll probably pick up the official one and keep this one as a backup.