hanspampel
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the ps vr number is november sales only. not lifetime to date.
so not that bad, imho
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so not that bad, imho
We don't know what their criteria is. They could be including digital sales, ps plus subscriptions, psvr sales, etc
Remember when Microsoft said halo 5 made x millions of dollars in revenue. But they were likely including controllers, hardware, req packs etc
Not really for November. Big YoY drop for both.
Unknown?
Member
I doubt they'd be talking about software in a press statement about how many hardware units of PS4 they've sold. Who knows but man terrible for both, PS4 down nearly half a million!
Still not confirmed so I take it with a grain of salt.
If that is what it does during the busiest shopping month of the year and just a month after it came out then it is not going to get any better. I'd almost expect it to completely drop off of the map.
What I meant is they were referencing revenue. They didn't say the best selling Black Friday week. They said the best week which makes me think PlayStation revenue as a whole
I mean what do you expect psvr to really do. It's a $400+ add on. A person could buy all the holiday releases for all that
Unknown?
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But it was in a statement about sells. If they had said that on its own I would be more inclined to think that. Also how would revenue be up when prices are cheaper? They're $50 less than last year which adds up to millions of revenue lost compared to last year.
That's why I said they may be adding psn sales, vr accessories etc
Unknown?
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I still doubt it. PSN sales and accessories were a thing last year too. It's unlikely they sold significantly less at a lower price then made it up elsewhere. PSVR revenue alone won't make up for that it's probably not even at a million WW yet.
All the marketing I've seen on TV for FFXV has been tied to XBOX.
For those worrying about PSVR just know GameStop is pretty much sold out company wide.
Working tonight I had 2 people come in looking to buy it for Christmas and no store within 100 miles had any and the website/warehouse is sold out.
Also no systems besides 3DS sold in a 6 hour shift. People who did ask were asking about the $250 price point for ps4 and xb1s which doesn't start till the 11th.
Working tonight I had 2 people come in looking to buy it for Christmas and no store within 100 miles had any and the website/warehouse is sold out.
Also no systems besides 3DS sold in a 6 hour shift. People who did ask were asking about the $250 price point for ps4 and xb1s which doesn't start till the 11th.
They can tie all they want, the fanbase will be moslty playstation.
LastMinuteHero
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So if true, that might explain why ps4 and xb1 are down yoy
I tried to convince the couple people wanting a PS4 to get the $299 tonight since we were giving out a year of PS+ but wouldn't bite. I guess hearing $249 sounds better to the public lol
LastMinuteHero
Member
Fuuaaa if it were me I would have grabbed that 299 but 249 does sound better to the ears. Do you think dec will help rebound the slump from november sales?
Honestly no idea, 5 years ago when I ran stores I could tell you, but now I work like 1 day a week tops just to help my friend so I don't know how things are when I'm not around.
I do know we haven't sold any of the FFXV bundles, but that's about it.
These holiday sales are nice but I believe they are going to start to backfire for yearly sales. I see sales becoming get more lopsided in Nov/Dec as consumers figure out they can save 50 dollars.
Mister Megative
Banned
Did I arrive in time for the silly "consoles are dying" talk?
In all seriousness, lol. Consoles are usually down YoY in their 4th holiday. Not ALWAYS, but most of the time, especially coming after a highly successful previous holiday.
For context, this is a much higher result for PS4 than holiday 2014, and I believe for Xbox as well.
In all seriousness, lol. Consoles are usually down YoY in their 4th holiday. Not ALWAYS, but most of the time, especially coming after a highly successful previous holiday.
For context, this is a much higher result for PS4 than holiday 2014, and I believe for Xbox as well.
outunderthestars
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I think PSVR is sold out everywhere and sells out roughly 20 minutes after retailers put stock up on their websites.
1st Course
Member
PSVR is doing alright. It's sold out everywhere.
gundamkyoukai
Member
If those numbers are true there not bad for both X1 or PS4 .
I expect PS4 to be down YoY for certain with the bundles they had .
Also looks like Sony under ship VR and Pro depending on where you are in the world lol .
This why they need to bring out more big games during the early parts of the year .
Since that might stop some people from waiting .
I expect PS4 to be down YoY for certain with the bundles they had .
Also looks like Sony under ship VR and Pro depending on where you are in the world lol .
This why they need to bring out more big games during the early parts of the year .
Since that might stop some people from waiting .
PSVR at 60K for November seems pretty good to me.
1.1 million PS4s with the launch of the Pro is a bit lower than I expected, but this is the fourth holiday for the console, as people have pointed out. December will be very interesting; I wouldn't be surprised if the Xbox One edges out the PS4.
1.1 million PS4s with the launch of the Pro is a bit lower than I expected, but this is the fourth holiday for the console, as people have pointed out. December will be very interesting; I wouldn't be surprised if the Xbox One edges out the PS4.
DriftingSpirit
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How much did PS4 and X1 do in November 2014?
Unknown?
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That's Cyber Monday which PS4 sold more on.
Mister Megative
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Samanosuke Akechi
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Guess this explains the no PR from Sony this month. Also looks like steeper price cuts are needed. The sooner these consoles get to $249-$199 the better.
Unknown?
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Sony hasn't had PR most of this year though despite winning most NPD months. I'm still not going to take this rumor as fact but extremely disappointing for both consoles if true.
Mister Megative
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Samanosuke Akechi
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Me either but if true, this might mean the pro didn't get many pre orders that ppl thought. If not for the pro, Sony might have had an abysmal November. Assuming this report is true.
DriftingSpirit
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Thanks.
gundamkyoukai
Member
If not for Pro Sony plans would have been different IMO.
Truth is looks like Sony went for profit this year more than anything else .
There bundle cost them nothing and remind me of what the did in 2014.
StrongBlackVine
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Yep. Next year expect Destiny, Battlefront and Red Dead Bundles.
EEDAR/NPD was predicting to get PSVR numbers at ~10% of the PS4 install base (i.e. typical high expectations accessory attach rate). Impossible to tell how it's really doing without October numbers and stock in November, but 68K for the month of November does not seem promising.
gundamkyoukai
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That would have be crazy and no one should expect that .
10% of the PS4 base is 5 million and PSVR cost $400.
Even if we only talking about USA that is still 1.5 million give or take for a $400 add on .
That was never going to happen in such short time and this month all about getting things at a cheap price.
eerik9000
Member
Sorry, but I don't trust anybody from the Crapgamer clique. The same guy also claims Quantum Break sold over 2 million.
LastMinuteHero
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Mister Megative
Banned
They're legit.
Jon Carter
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"Measly thousands"?
DarkLordMalik
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LastMinuteHero
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Which one? The qb selling over 2 million bit? Or the website itself?
gundamkyoukai
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There both down 25% to 30% give or take .
Mister Megative
Banned
It never fails to amuse.
Mister Megative
Banned
Down from last, PS4 way up over 2014
10% of LTD sales 2 months in would be near impossible, yes. Well under 10% of monthly sales in the second month does not bode well for ever getting to 10% of the LTD sales, though. If it was all sold out in November, that may delay the doomsayings, though.
SneakersSO
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Considering these have been some of the best deals, but as a base price and as a bundle, that both consoles have been sold at this entire generation, both consoles being down that much YoY is a bit worrying.
Mister Megative
Banned
The numbers for November.
Also, fucking lol at the doom and gloom. Numbers are fine.