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One killed, 2 injured after racist open fires in Kansas bar.

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Derwind

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Well that's not true. Fort Hood immediately comes to mind. The Boston Bombing is another obvious example.

I can't speak for the Fort Hood case but the Boston bombers were publicly crucified(as they should be).

So I see no reason why racially motivated shootings should be given any benefit.

Either with how it's reported or how the public disseminate the news, there are evident differences how a white shooters is treated and a minority/POC shooter is treated on average.
 

devilhawk

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I can't speak for the Fort Hood case but the Boston bombers were publicly crucified(as they should be).

So I see no reason why racially motivated shootings should be given any benefit.

Either with how it's reported or how the public disseminate the news, there are evident differences how a white shooters is treated and a minority/POC shooter is treated on average.
Lots of differences. The racist assholes don't get Rolling Stone covers.
 

Zaph

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So for those keeping count, how many acts or planned attempts now of white supremacy terrorism has there been so far in 2017 by westerners?
 

nacimento

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Maybe because any muslim extremists that carry out attacks like this are (rightfully) called "terrorists" and (not rightfully) their religion gets easily demonized, but if it's a white guy that did it, he's called "a lone wolf with mental problems". Like the guy from the Munich attacks for example.

The munich guy was half iranian though.

Terrible tragedy and a clear case of terrorism. Fuck the shooter, may he rot in jail.
 

Derwind

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Lots of differences. The racist assholes don't get Rolling Stone covers.

True, they get a go fund me page, a president that no longer places any focus on their brand of terror and a slew of sympathizers trying to debate how sensitive we should be when discussing their brand of terror... on top of the fact that when they make it on to the news, they are never described as terrorist.

It's pretty much night & day.
 

jem0208

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The GOP in Kansas is fueling the fears of people there with its massive Islamaphobia. Like this mailer:

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Incidents in the state are on the rise so when I see someone killed I'm shocked yet not surprised.
Wow, that is awful.
 

Gattsu25

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Horrifying. Hope this fucker gets the book thrown at him.

RIP to the deceased and hoping for a swift recovery to the injured.
The GOP in Kansas is fueling the fears of people there with its massive Islamaphobia. Like this mailer:

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Incidents in the state are on the rise so when I see someone killed I'm shocked yet not surprised.

Whoa
 
The GOP in Kansas is fueling the fears of people there with its massive Islamaphobia. Like this mailer:

ISIS.jpg


Incidents in the state are on the rise so when I see someone killed I'm shocked yet not surprised.

Was this at least pre-election? As bad as this mailer is, it takes on a whole new level of concern if the GOP is mailing these out post-election.
 

i-Lo

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The GOP in Kansas is fueling the fears of people there with its massive Islamaphobia. Like this mailer:

ISIS.jpg


Incidents in the state are on the rise so when I see someone killed I'm shocked yet not surprised.

I've to ask: If it is being mailed by GOP, then how is this remotely legal?
 

GK86

Homeland Security Fail
All brown people are Muslims/terrorists. Just like every Latino/a is Mexican.

Fuck that piece of shit racist.

RIP to the victim. It is sad your life was taken. I hope the two that were injured have speedy recoveries. And a big shout out to that man who stood up against this bullshit.
 
I wonder how many tweets we'll get from Trump about this attack?

I mean, he tweeted about some guy who did some attack all the way in France where nobody was killed, and there was only a light injury, so surely this is a much bigger deal since it's in his own country, and was killing involved?

A new radical Islamic terrorist has just attacked in Louvre Museum in Paris. Tourists were locked down. France on edge again. GET SMART U.S.


Oh nevermind, the killer was white. Nothing to see here.

Going to CPAC!
 

Apathy

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If he has a legit PTSD diagnosis you do not allow him to keep firearms. Period.

You also blame the government for not supporting veterans with mental illnesses. For a country that touts how much they love the troops and build up the military as heroes, as soon as they are back, they forget then if they have any sort of battle born illnesses. You can't send young men and women off to war and then not help them when they get back.
 
You also blame the government for not supporting veterans with mental illnesses. For a country that touts how much they love the troops and build up the military as heroes, as soon as they are back, they forget then if they have any sort of battle born illnesses. You can't send young men and women off to war and then not help them when they get back.

Lol, it's the US. If they aren't contributing to the military machine anymore and cease to be a source of money for the military, it's back to bootstraps for vets.
 

Sianos

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this sounds like more of a hate crime than terrorism

have we already forgotten the folly of benghazi? trying to be precise about wording when talking about extremist crime due to connotations of certain words implying greater organizational threat is the same as LYING
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Absolutely tragic. My heart goes out to the victims family and friends.

I hope this terrorist scum is tried accordingly.
 
"Suspect may have suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder. He also may have recently been diagnosed with a serious illness"


And that's how you know this terrorist was white.
 
The GOP in Kansas is fueling the fears of people there with its massive Islamaphobia. Like this mailer:

ISIS.jpg


Incidents in the state are on the rise so when I see someone killed I'm shocked yet not surprised.

GOP and Trump literally radicalizing people.
 
There is no doubt that all the rhetoric and dog whistles contribute greatly to this incident.

That being said the man is a vet.

If he has a legit PTSD diagnosis you guys are being fucking soulless


Oh boy here we go.

PTSD involves vividly re-living traumatic moments.

You tell me what moment he would be re-living that would involve him yelling "get out of my country"

I'll wait.
 
The point shouldn't be that they're from India and the guy thought they were Middle Eastern. The point should be that racist folks with guns in their holster will shoot at anyone that is not white.

This is the definition of radicalism.
 
There is no doubt that all the rhetoric and dog whistles contribute greatly to this incident.

That being said the man is a vet.

If he has a legit PTSD diagnosis you guys are being fucking soulless

First you lecture a victim of homophobic abuse on homophobia, now you're lecturing people for criticizing the perpetrator of a race-based terrorist attack? Honestly now.

What would you think if someone was making a post like this about an ISIS combatant? I'm sure there are numerous ISIS combatants who were indoctrinated by anti-American propaganda and by the disruption of their countries, but we do not see people making the same defense on NeoGAF for these people as you do for this person.
 

Saya

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White House says too early to guess at motive in Kansas shooting

A White House spokesman, addressing the fatal shooting of an Indian engineer and the wounding of two other men in Kansas this week, said on Friday any loss of life is tragic but it would be absurd to link the action to President Donald Trump's rhetoric.

Spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters it was too early to guess at the motive for the incident, in which a man opened fire in a bar, prompting concern that Trump's "America First" stance on immigration and jobs has fueled a climate of intolerance.
 

RinsFury

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This is the face of terror. PTSD doesn't mean you go an execute people because they 'look middle eastern and don't belong here'. Throw his veteran and PTSD suffering ass in jail for murder. What is soulless is how you are more concerned for this guys wellbeing than the ACTUAL victims of yet another domestic white hate crime, one of many since 9/11.

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Evil rotten motherfucker, give that piece of shit the death penalty. That face is pure evil, the stuff of nightmares.
 
Oh sweet summer child. Where you living outside this planet this far?

Not everybody cares about problems in the US and even those that do might not know anything. Don't have to be living off world to assume the state legislators in the US wouldn't be a bunch of fuckwits.

I'm still waiting to hear what the white Christian community is going to do to curb these rampant attacks.

Dude was a Christian? I must have missed that in the article lol, which paragraph is it in?
 

CSJ

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Being outside the U.S I always wondered what the legal stance on this was.
Now I know, this is so backwards and stupid.

If you're going to absolve someone of responsibility because of a mental illness in cases like these for example sake, then that lack of responsibility should correlate with owning a weapon as they cannot be held fully accountable, apparently.

What a piece of scum this guy is.
 
RIP.

Hatred is spreading like wildfire and we know who the arsons are. Unfortunately, we decided to give them a pedestal to spread their vile messages.

Edit:

And empowered their bigotry by reinforcing their ego.
 

TheOddOne

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- New York Times: Hate Crime Is Feared as 2 Indian Engineers Are Shot in Kansas.
In a brief phone interview on Friday night, Mr. Madasani described the remarks made Wednesday by the man sitting near him and Mr. Kuchibhotla at the restaurant. “He asked us what visa are we currently on and whether we are staying here illegally,” Mr. Madasani said. (Both men were educated in the United States and were working here legally.)

“We didn’t react,” Mr. Madasani said. “People do stupid things all the time. This guy took it to the next level.”

Mr. Madasani said he went in to get a manager, and by the time he returned to the patio, the man was being escorted out.

After Mr. Purinton was thrown out, Jeremy Luby, 41, a software developer, said he offered to pick up the tab for the two men, who thanked him during a brief conversation about work and cultural differences.

“It was wrong what happened to them,” Mr. Luby said. “I thought it was a nice gesture to say, ‘I’m sorry someone was being rude to you like that.’”
After the shooting began, another patron, Ian Grillot, 24, said he tried to count the shots while he hid under a table. Thinking the gunman had run out of ammunition, Mr. Grillot said, he confronted him, only to be shot in the hand and the chest.

“It wasn’t right, and I didn’t want the gentleman to potentially go after somebody else,” Mr. Grillot said in a video released by the hospital where he received treatment. “He did it once. What would stop him from doing it again?”

The shots echoed around the area, and Chris Lacross soon emerged from a store a few doors down to an unimaginable scene: an emergency medical technician performing CPR on a man lying in the doorway of the bar’s front patio, where tables and chairs had been flipped over, and someone was shouting that they needed towels.

Another man took off his shirt and applied pressure to the wound of another victim, who was writhing in pain, said Mr. Lacross, who allowed some people to use a store restroom to wash away spattered blood.
In Washington, the White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, rejected any link between Mr. Trump’s policy agenda and the shooting, which many Indians believed might have been inspired by the president’s harsh tone on immigration.
 
I just can't with this PTSD defense. Holy fuuuu

yeah, as someone who probably has at least mild PTSD (from barely surviving ICU treatment), it doesn't make much sense..

i mean, if you become a racist killer after you've become depressed or otherwise mentally ill, those sick tendencies were already there, just waiting to be triggered somehow.. the murderer here is just an absolute shit person, who happens to suffer from an illness.
 
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