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60fps is better than 30fps

 

[poppabk]

That gamers are a homogenous group that enjoy the same things.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

I'm just gonna spoil the contents of the rest of this thread.

Popular game considered good = bad
Unpopular game considered bad = good.

You're welcome.

Funny, the two posts after yours didn't fit your prediction

 

[YCoCg]

"Genesis/Mega Drive sound chip sounds like shit"

 

[Damigos]

1. Live service games are online only games
2. It's just cosmetic, you can choose not to buy it

 

[Raven77]

60 fps with mediocre graphics just worst in most genres vs 30 fps with amazing graphics.

This is a scientific FACT.

 

[cireza]

Saturn was not designed to make 3D and additional components were soldered directly at the last minute by SEGA's CEO himself.

MegaDrive sounds like shit.

MegaDrive had no RPGs or Adventure games compared to SNES. Because suddenly everyone was Japanese and living in Japan in the 90s.

 

[German Hops]

That's the popular opinion.

My opinion is that it's the greatest FF game made and one of the best ever JRPG games.

We just found D.Final 's alt.

 

[radewagon]

Breath of the Wild is an amazing game. I found it to be a boring walking simulator.

While I definitely enjoyed it more than a walking simulator, the loss of traditional dungeons was a huge letdown. Also, destructible weapons were a stupid design choice. It's a fine game, but easily one of my least favorite of the Zelda titles.

 

[German Hops]

Saturn was not designed to make 3D and additional components were soldered directly at the last minute by SEGA's CEO himself.

The last part is dumb, but I thought 3D for the Saturn was an after-thought?

wtf were quads all about?

 

[cireza]

The last part is dumb, but I thought 3D for the Saturn was an after-thought?

Of course not... That's the issue here. You believe things you read without even using 2 seconds your common sense.

Same as Saturn can't do transparency. Same shit everytime.

Quads was a choice that wasn't more stupid than triangles at a time where companies were still pioneering the technology, and it actually had advantages over triangles...

 

[TintoConCasera]

Everytime I see people claiming a game is GOTY material before even having played it makes me want to slap them in the face.

As for me I see lots of popular opinions that to me are just plain wrong, most of them related to the praise the most popular games seem to get when in my eyes they are the most generic shit with overused mechanics and 0 creativity. But I won't get into specifics.

 

[shiru]

Saturn was not designed to make 3D and additional components were soldered directly at the last minute by SEGA's CEO himself.

That's not an opinion. May be misinformation? But not an opinion. I also thought it was planned as a 2d console. The last quip is just dumb.

Same as Saturn can't do transparency

Not natively.

 

[DEAD ORIGINAL]

Halo is good

Was 1-3 after

 

[German Hops]

Of course not... That's the issue here. You believe things you read without even using 2 seconds your common sense.

Same as Saturn can't do transparency. Same shit everytime.

Quads was a choice that wasn't more stupid than triangles at a time where companies were still pioneering the technology, and it actually had advantages over triangles...

The 3D graphics on Saturn were all just clever hacks since it had no true geometry engine or triangle/polygon setup engine or 3D rendering engine.
The Saturn really had no hardware to produce proper polygon graphics. At least not standard triangles. Everything 3D was a hack of 2D sprites to look 3D.

This suggests that the Saturn was initially designed as a 2D system with 3D bolted on, last minute.

 

[Trunx81]

Inverted camera is the worst way to play.

 

[NightmareFarm]

"FFXV is trash. Worst FF game ever made".

Wheres back in the real world, it's probably the best FF ever made and certainly in the top five of JRPG games.

>certainly in the top five of JRPG games.

I agree partially because of episode ARDYN

 

[ReBurn]

Or in this case, the game is turn based so you can stare at your anime waifu butt jiggle.

That's called giving the people what they want.

 

[Banjo64]

Other recent Sony games aside from the original TLoU are 10s.

 

[Slicker than your average]

Turn based JRPGs are “strategic”.

Yeah right. Vast majority of those games you just pick “attack” from a menu over and over until you win. The best “strategy” is to grind some XP until you overpower the enemy. At best you might have to use some real big-brain strategy such as “heal the guy with low HP”, “use the element that this enemy is weak against”, or even “don’t attack while the enemy is doing their counterattack stance”.

I don't think I know any that has said they're strategic. If that's the case then it isn't a popular opinion.

 

[22:22:22]

60fps is better than 30fps

 

[The_Mike]

Xbox has no games.

Just because Gaf doesn't give a shit about them doesn't mean they aren't there.

 

[shiru]

Framerate is not important

Graffix (even the slightest increase) matter more than performance and playability

 

[EverydayBeast]

Being proud of a game’s difficulty is dumb.

 

[analog_future]

All these twats that are blaming "diversity hiring" as some dirge to modern game development.

"gAmEs ArE bAd BeCuZ oF wOmEn AnD tHe BLaCkS"

Literally one of the dumbest opinions I've ever come across.

 

[22:22:22]

Being proud of a game’s difficulty is dumb.

No it's not.

Using it to be an elitist prick though is.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

I was in the same boat as you, only having played Chrono Trigger and a few FF titles. Then I got into Shin Megami Tensei and realized how fun and how much of a challenge a turn based battle system can be.

Yeah I did say “the vast majority”. SMT is the notable exception. Although I think it’s more the case that SMT is just very punishing for screwing up. Basic idea isn’t much different.

I don't think I know any that has said they're strategic. If that's the case then it isn't a popular opinion.

Really? I feel like I used to hear that all the time. “I prefer turn based JRPGs because they’re more strategic”. “It looks like FF7 Remake is going to be a mindless button masher, I wish they stuck with turn based because it’s more strategic”. Etc etc.


Even look at the back of the box for any turn-based JRPG. Almost all of them have the word “strategy” or “strategic” on them.

 

[Gamerdude123]

Using Metacritic or video game awards to prove a game is a masterpiece.

This is such a laughable measure of determining a games quality for multiple reasons:

- Video game "journalists" (lol) are dependend on the publishers for their livelyhood. If publishers refuse to give them early review copies because the journalist gave their last game a bad review then the journalists aren´t going to make money. Conversely for giving a game a great review publishers will reward the reviewer with a new gaming chair or just flat out buy them off. The more influential the reviewer the higher the reward. Game reviewers know this so they are not gonna voice their real opinion on the game publically.

- The majority of gaming journalists are woke political activists who don´t even play video games. Literally everyone that works in a leadership position in the video game industry in a big dev studio in the West is also a woke activist. So the more woke a game is the higher it will review on metacritic and the more awards it will win.

- There is a definite bias towards Nintendo games and also most Sony games. If an unknown studio made identical games then those games would have been rated much lower.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Yeah I did say “the vast majority”. SMT is the notable exception. Although I think it’s more the case that SMT is just very punishing for screwing up. Basic idea isn’t much different.

I think it is. There's a lot of strategy when it comes to party composition and making the most out of your possible options. Have you played any of the mainline titles? Beating SMT V in hard is really hard, but not the kind of hard you can overcome by just levelling up, but rather changing up your strategy.

Another JRPG with actual strategy to it's battles is Crystal Project, with all it's mechanics like bating enemies, sttus effects and other things.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

I think it is. There's a lot of strategy when it comes to party composition and making the most out of your possible options. Have you played any of the mainline titles? Beating SMT V in hard is really hard, but not the kind of hard you can overcome by just levelling up, but rather changing up your strategy.

Another JRPG with actual strategy to it's battles is Crystal Project, with all it's mechanics like bating enemies, sttus effects and other things.

Yeah fair enough, the strategy in SMT is mostly about learning the enemies in some new area and then putting a party together that you need to defeat the boss. I’ve played several of the SMT/Persona games. I think the first Persona on PS1 was the only one I ever finished. To me they just become tedious after a while.

I do like proper SRPGs. Looking forward to Tactics Ogre after I finish with Star Ocean 6

 

[Edgelord79]

Only AAA games should be time worthy or considered for GOTY “awards”

 

[DerivedDataCache]

Epic Games is the devil.

This one triggers me cause theyve done more for the industry than any other company.

 

[fart town usa]

Devil's Third is unplayable trash.

In reality, far from it. Fun 1980s Arnie-style action romp. Game is a hoot and doesn't deserve the hate. Solid 7/10 development hell game from a rookie team led by an eccentric Japanese man in a trench coat. What more can you ask for?

 

[Shh]

60fps is better than 30fps

It is. I don't like when my eyes bleed.

 

[anthony2690]

60fps is better than 30fps

 

[TintoConCasera]

60fps is better than 30fps

They are. Get those eyes checked bro.

 

[Captain Toad]

"FFXV is trash. Worst FF game ever made".

Wheres back in the real world, it's probably the best FF ever made and certainly in the top five of JRPG games.

It's not the worst. 8 is. But 15 is right behind it.

 

[Fuz]

All of them except mines.

 

[adamosmaki]

RE4 is the best RE game. Just wrong imo and far from it . RE2 , RE2 remake, RE 7 and RE village are better

 

[Old_and_Slow]

Fallout 3 is terrible.
Fallout New Vegas is flawless.

Both are great!

 

[IDKFA]

It's not the worst. 8 is. But 15 is right behind it.

8 isn't great. It hasn't aged well and the combat is archaic. Not sure how anybody can go back to 8 (or the original 7 and 9) and enjoy them, but each to their own.

Disagree that 15 is as bad as 8. I just can't believe the hate 15 receives. I'll stand by my opinion that it is the GOAT FF game, that is until 16 comes out. 16 is looking to take the tile from 15, which makes sense as the series has just got better and better with every game.

 

[Bakkus]

That's an interesting one. It certainly held the industry back, as Nintendo's anti-competition policies kept third-party games from coming to significantly better hardware like the SMS and TG-16.

SMS better hardware? lmao. Also, TG-16 was a niche console which only sold a few millions worldwide.

 

[MAtgS]

All of the Geno worship when Mallow is an objectively better character in every way, including having an actual personality, subplot that progresses over the adventure, & better moveset potential for SSB.

"FF13 gets good once you reach Gran Pulse" It gets better, but that's relative. It's still not good.

"Sonic's shitty friends" is 1 that has bugged me forever & ever. It's a complaint applied only to Sonic & litterally no other franchise in existence. No one raises an eyebrow at Luigi/Toad/Peach/Wario/Yoshi all getting their own spinoff games if that happened to an equal number of Sonic characters the internet would lose its collective shit. The real problem is padding: Sonic Team's stubborn refusal to accept that Sonic games are better when they're short & stuffing in additional gameplay modes that don't compliment the experience.

 

[Bakkus]

My unpopular opinion is that technological stagnation is good for the games industry. High development costs are what have forced devs to converge on the samey AAA model, if technology stagnates eventually development costs will fall and we'll see a rise in the proportion of innovative, high-quality games like we saw in the SNES, PS1, and PS2 generations.

Too bad they didn't stagnate BEFORE now when most of the smaller Japanese studios which innovated went bankrupt...

 

[Bakkus]

- Video game "journalists" (lol) are dependend on the publishers for their livelyhood. If publishers refuse to give them early review copies because the journalist gave their last game a bad review then the journalists aren´t going to make money. Conversely for giving a game a great review publishers will reward the reviewer with a new gaming chair or just flat out buy them off. The more influential the reviewer the higher the reward. Game reviewers know this so they are not gonna voice their real opinion on the game publically.

Yeah, I think Zero Punctuation has stopped recieving review copies by Sony because he bashed TLOU2 and Horizon FB.

 

[-Zelda-]

LOL! But seriously, I get that people like 60, and that is fine, but I cringe every time I see someone online state that they will never play a game that is not 60 fps. Have fun missing out on a lot of good games then just because they arent 60fps.

 

[Randall Sully]

mine - Devil May Cry is slower and less fun than Ninja Gaiden (not wrong)

theirs - Mario is Perfection in videogame form (wrong) there's a bunch of lame sports spinoffs that are shovelware trash, 2D Mario is now reduced to shovelware-rier spinoff bargain bin (oh the irony - from trendsetter to copying trends) - even the most diehard journos admitted Odyssey wasn't capable of saving videogames from klaus schawbian industrial control grid, i find it the average Mario fan likes to rub the scrutiny the Sonic series and positive leaning fans in their face, yet - Mario symbolizes the worst scale of consumerism, pretending as if it's still some gigantic pillar of quality and encouraging this weird obnoxious behavior you see in youtube videos, that would make they're ancestors embarrassed, it's like everyone wants Mario to go through a huger downfall (and Nintendo) than everyone claims Sega and Sonic did - in the long run, because you people are certainly setting up for one......

theirs - Sony will lose this gen (skeptical - somewhat wrong) i don't own a PS5 yet - and i hate a lot of what's they're associated with now - and i semi-blame them for what happened to the Saturn, but honestly.......Playstation has always come out on top each passing gen eitherway, that's just the realistic side of me talking, i buy them for japanese third party games - so do other gamers whom share the same mindset, with that BLM or ideologue pandering going on - if profits fall hard atleast from those things - then they are simply just gonna reverse those from feedback suggestions, it's not like there's any wokeness from the new God of War game at all, supposedly

 

[TheInfamousKira]

Yeah I did say “the vast majority”. SMT is the notable exception. Although I think it’s more the case that SMT is just very punishing for screwing up. Basic idea isn’t much different.


Really? I feel like I used to hear that all the time. “I prefer turn based JRPGs because they’re more strategic”. “It looks like FF7 Remake is going to be a mindless button masher, I wish they stuck with turn based because it’s more strategic”. Etc etc.


Even look at the back of the box for any turn-based JRPG. Almost all of them have the word “strategy” or “strategic” on them.

It's definitely a buzzword that's taken on it's own identity. I think in terms of genre, where everything has to be dumbed down to the smallest common denominator, "strategic," was the PR approved phrasing for "It's turn based," trying to soften the blow and maybe get a few oblivious gamer dollars from people who don't understand or have their decoder ring. Yes, I just made a blanket statement that the general public is stupid. Shocking.

Doing something in real time isn't any more or less strategic than doing it via menus and turns, arguably strategy becomes harder and more married to the gameplay than ever in real time, because you ACTIVELY have to think whilst doing.

People who prefer old school RPGs are in just mixed up in the lingo, I think, in conclusion. Like, there are nights when I'm in a "smoke a bowl and chill," mood and that's ideal for turn based games, whereas sometimes I just want all the pseudo-adrenaline of action games.

I will say that an added Hard mode in this old school re-releases of vintage RPGs could address the issue with the lack of ACTUAL strategy. Even the elements that I'd argue are closer to real strategy, like minmaxing and party makeup would be that much more relevant to the actual gameplay. But I guess that would require alteration to actual code, which is harder than just making everything look like Farmville and re-releasing it. But we're verging off into MY issues now, so I'll part with this reply.

 

[sainraja]

Halo has slower movement because its "dumbed" for consoles(even though most console shooters have faster movement)

Halo was also designed to be played in 2001.

 

[Bernkastel]

Halo was also designed to be played in 2001.

You don't have to quote me if you are replying to OP