Which is proving my point exactly, PS4 was extremely behind which is why the Pro exists. The PS5 is not, hence it being even more niche.
You would think that we've been through this ignoramus TF shit already from the beginning of this gen. But it would not surprise me one bit if it repeats.
Well it’s much closer comparison then cameras and TVs. And as there are people that are going from consoles to PC it’s even closer.
It's not mandatory. Even when the pro was out, many devopers didn't have any enhancements for their games. The content works by default whether the devopers bother supporting it specifically or not, much like TV content doesn't have to be 8k because some people will watch it on their new shiny TV.
People also forget that Playstation has always been a trojan horse for Sony’s other hardware divisions.
Hate to go here but also wonder how much their (Xbox) fucked up naming of their consoles hurt them in sales with the pure casual buyer especially buying from someone like WalMart and asking the 75 year old lady working the register for help who normally works in house goods and is just filling inWhat's funny is that those people think they can actually change things.
News flash things actually got worse for them.
Still waiting for those leaks…
In 2016 SSDs weren't extremely common (or cheap) yet, and on top of that CPU speeds were irrelevant to consumer demands. 4K was becoming in demand as well as PSVR was being developed, hence the Pro making sense to create.
And just like I said earlier, they killed multiple birds with one stone.
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To sell 8K TV’s and push it as the new medium, as they have done before.
8K TVs won't be mainstream even in 10 years
The next push for TVs is 240hz, the LG C4 in 2024 is the first Oled with 240hz and many will follow
Reacting with a gif doesn't make it wrong, the takes in this thread are genuinely delusional. This is the same board acting like an SSD was some crazy new Sony tech back in 2020.
They won’t be without incentive. That’s where Playstation comes in. The only reason we use Blu-rays today is because of PS3, if not for that push we would have been relegated to HD DVD.
8K TV’s are already on the market, they just need a driver.
I mean, this is coming from someone who says that if the PS5 Pro isn't 4080-tier in GPU performance, it'll be disappointing.
Yes they were lol.
4K isn't even standard yet.
1080P TV’s aren’t widely available for purchase anymore, I’d say that makes 4K the current standard.
Could be, but that still leaves movies and games.
Same issues were raised when PS4 Pro was rumoured to feature 4K, history repeats.
Back in the day, a PS3 was cheaper than Blu-Ray players. I knew a couple of people who weren't that into games but didn't want to drop 1K on a player. A PS3 was an interesting prospect taking in cutting-edge technology at the time hundreds cheaper than a stand-alone unit.
Sure, but then there was also a pandemic that put a lot on hold and things aren't exactly going great globally.
MS doesn’t need any plans for Sony to push their own hardware. Tom Henderson has a pretty solid track record and the move to 8K would be just Sony doing what Sony always does.
True, but I was talking about how there is little need for a Pro.
When it comes to PS hardware Tom is dead on
The need would be for Sony to make bank on their 8K TV’s. Your needs may differ from Sonys however.
Also true, but that changes little about what I said imo.
I have said this before here but I have been in Discord with Spencer and Ybarra (while he was still at Xbox) and even back then they said of some upcoming projects that have never surfaced
Makes sense.
I will just say this when RGT and Henderson and Digital Foundry were all saying they didn't think a PS5 Pro was coming I kept saying it was and honestly can't say anymore than that without flying too close to the sun
No they weren't, I remember paying $50-60 just for a 128gb boot SSD. 1TB was just about $100-$120
Well you just said that not every game needs to be made for Pro so what’s the point of making one or better, what’s the point of making an expensive machine then? As for TVs and the whole comparison - manufacturer is making many models of TVs, mostly 4K (but obviously not all). They have differences in image quality (more or less) but in the end you have the same media on it. It’s universal and you can’t say that it’s not using a TV to its potential. With games it doesn’t work this way.
Yes and no. It can be easier because you have the power overhead so you just brute force the problems. In the end it’s quite lazy approach well known from PC space. You also aren’t using the potential of the hardware. Most of the times it’s easier to downgrade from high quality then to add quality to lower stuff (like character models). But you can’t or maybe rather shouldn’t do that when you are making an upgraded version of the console. In the end your baseline will be lower spec not other way around.
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Sadly and being honest I very seldom get these are the full specs type of infoI see.... So are you waiting to leak full PS5 Pro specs on December 31 for dramatic effect?
That's the wrong conclusion to reach from my argument. Not forcing all developers to do extra work does not mean the hardware is not needed or used. The majority of developers will be supporting the new hardware like we've seen before, it's in their best interest. But small studios without resources or technical knowledge don't have to do anything extra for their game to work. Developers also don't have to support the PS5, they can just make a PS4 version of their game and it'll work on everything, but I hope we're also not arguing that the PS5 was never needed.
It's honestly lazy to rely on a less than optimal solution in FRS. Glad Sony doesn't in their first party games, so I agree, hopefully the rumor is true about them working on a better solution to be shared.
