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[ZoukGalaxy]

meanwhile, on planet X

 

[RPS37]

Mmmmmm love when games have hundreds of written and audio logs.

 

[kuncol02]

meanwhile, on planet X

But world building in Redfall is amazing. And that's actually worst part of all of that. They had great idea for world and story and wasted it on this game. Main story beats on conceptual level are genuinely great. Whole sequence with

Spoiler: fist act boss spoiler

first boss mansion, dollhouse and later boss fight in human sized dollhouse that opens in front of you

is great concept, but not in coop shooter because there is no space to flesh it out. Genre of that game literally works against anything that Arkane tries to achieve there.

 

[Daneel Elijah]

Don't you think that this is an over-semplification?

They make the game somewhat good to play to score an 80, but if they knew how to do that, the game would not be a 4-5\10 at the very best.

I don't know, it still sound fishy.

Something really bad happened during the development of this game, you cannot just go from prey and dish (hell even deathloop) to this thing...

Not to give this theory any strenght as I have no idea of the veracity of it. And I of course didn't play or even seen the preview or the final game. But there is a precedent of even worse than that. Sonic 06 got a demo for Xbox 360 that had extra code that was not put in the end game. A public demo. Great video on the subject if you want to know more. So it could happen. At least back then it was not made to scam people like this would be if true. This would also conveniently explain why Xbox let the game ship if the same preview was shown to them as well. But this is full conspiracy at this point. And would made Xbox even more incompetent than in a Sony warrior wet dream. It can't be true, not 100%. But no matter what Redfall happened. And now Xbox will have to regain their customers trust. For me Starfield will be their last chance. If that fail they will have to pray for a botched PS6 to even make me look at them again without pity and/or apathy.

 

[FunkMiller]

But world building in Redfall is amazing. And that's actually worst part of all of that. They had great idea for world and story and wasted it on this game. Main story beats on conceptual level are genuinely great. Whole sequence with

Spoiler: fist act boss spoiler

first boss mansion, dollhouse and later boss fight in human sized dollhouse that opens in front of you

is great concept, but not in coop shooter because there is no space to flesh it out. Genre of that game literally works against anything that Arkane tries to achieve there.

Sounds like the kind of stuff that would have been good in a single player immersive sim.

 

[GHG]

Less than 4% of people have completed the first level. So what the hell did the “journalists” review?

Journalists went where no regular rational gamer would dare to go.

 

[kuncol02]

Sounds like the kind of stuff that would have been good in a single player immersive sim.

It really would. It could be new clockwork mansion, but instead whole concept is used only as entrance to simple arena for boss fight.
Worst thing is I don't even know who I should be mad at. I can't blame Arkane for failing in genre that goes against anything they ever did, neither Bethesda for pushing them to make something more popular (not after how bad Doom, New Order, Prey and Dishonored 2 sold) and I can't blame MS, because that game was way to late in development when they bought Zenimax. I guess I will blame people who cry about state of industry, that all we have are remakes and countless sequels and at the same time don't buy new unique games like Prey.

 

[baphomet]

It really would. It could be new clockwork mansion, but instead whole concept is used only as entrance to simple arena for boss fight.
Worst thing is I don't even know who I should be mad at. I can't blame Arkane for failing in genre that goes against anything they ever did, neither Bethesda for pushing them to make something more popular (not after how bad Doom, New Order, Prey and Dishonored 2 sold) and I can't blame MS, because that game was way to late in development when they bought Zenimax. I guess I will blame people who cry about state of industry, that all we have are remakes and countless sequels and at the same time don't buy new unique games like Prey.

Lol, since when did Doom not sell well?

 

[Stare-Bear]

So is it worth the 90gb download? I got it gamepass on pc

 

[kuncol02]

Lol, since when did Doom not sell well?

2 milions copies on PC in a year. That's terrible result for best shooter in decade. Zenimax was never talking about console sales (or even general sales) so I asume they weren't better.

So is it worth the 90gb download? I got it gamepass on pc

If you don't have data cap IMO yes. Shooting itself is surprisingly good (especially considering how bad it was in previous Arkane games)

 

[baphomet]

2 milions copies on PC in a year. That's terrible result for best shooter in decade. Zenimax was never talking about console sales (or even general sales) so I asume they weren't better.

So are you just stupid, or you don't understand how any of this works?

 

[kuncol02]

So are you just stupid, or you don't understand how any of this works?

You think that 2 or even 5 milions of copies for AAA shooter that was in development for 6 years is even remotely good? That's beyond tragic in terms of sales.

 

[baphomet]

You think that 2 or even 5 milions of copies for AAA shooter that was in development for 6 years is even remotely good? That's beyond tragic in terms of sales.

It's sold 5 million on Steam alone.

 

[Captain Toad]

The only good thing to come of this entire shitshow is that I've queued up another playthrough of both Dishonored 2 and Prey for this weekend.

Arkane, if you're reading this: please stop fucking around and do what do you do best.

That's like telling a sports team that is having a terrible season to play like they did when they won the championship twenty years ago.

They can't. They aren't the same people, they just have the same name.

 

[kuncol02]

It's sold 5 million on Steam alone.

In 7 years and most of that for ~20$ if not less.

That's like telling a sports team that is having a terrible season to play like they did when they won the championship twenty years ago.

They can't. They aren't the same people, they just have the same name.

They are the same people. At least on top. Redfall is directed by same guy who directed both Dishonored games and was main designer of Deus Ex and also co-directed by Prey main designer.

 

[Havoc2049]

Journalists went where no regular rational gamer would dare to go.

As someone who is playing through the game right now, this review pretty much nails it as to how I feel about Redfall.

 

[Phase]

So is it worth the 90gb download? I got it gamepass on pc

 

[GeoramA]

meanwhile, on planet X

So Redfall is good...if you play it like a walking simulator?

 

[Krathoon]

I wonder if the game is scaling back the AI on shitty computers.

That would be a really stupid design decision.

 

[Jadsey]

Blimey… incredible that it is sitting at 59 on metacritic now.

Sad really.

 

[kyussman]

Blimey… incredible that it is sitting at 59 on metacritic now.

Sad really.

Should be lower from what I've seen.Seems like the AI is actually broken in this game.Games with broken AI shouldn't be getting 4/5/6/ they should be getting 1/2/3.

 

[semiconscious]

But world building in Redfall is amazing. And that's actually worst part of all of that. They had great idea for world and story and wasted it on this game. Main story beats on conceptual level are genuinely great. Whole sequence with

Spoiler: fist act boss spoiler

first boss mansion, dollhouse and later boss fight in human sized dollhouse that opens in front of you

is great concept, but not in coop shooter because there is no space to flesh it out. Genre of that game literally works against anything that Arkane tries to achieve there.

this! there's so many times i've thought while playing this "why would you have all this immersive sim stuff in a multi-player game?" because it very obviously seems to function better as a single-player far cry type experience than as a multi-player blast fest...

 

[Jaybe]

Some of the funniest Redfall clips I’ve seen.

 

[feynoob]

 

[struggler_guts]

Honestly pretty tame for dunkey, must be too much ammo to work with

 

[kyussman]

"Fluppy,let me play please"

 

[Luipadre]

 

[skit_data]

Omg, that climbing animation is the funniest shit ever! How? What?! Is that the ”real” climbing animation or is it a bug?

Edit: Ok, watching it again it seems to only be one of them climbing that way. Which is almost even wierder than all of them doing it.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

I can't wait till Ms says "redfall has been played by 15 million players"

 

[Markio128]

I can't wait till Ms says "redfall has been played by 15 million players"

10 million crashes.

 

[killatopak]

This makes it seem like the bugs are actually more enjoyable than the game itself.

 

[-Zelda-]

This makes it seem like the bugs are actually more enjoyable than the game itself.

I kinda wish they would make a game that does this sort of thing intentionally. The laughs would be nonstop. Definately would be good in a group setting.

 

[Banjo64]

the ladder animation

 

[Musilla]

 

[Robb]

I can't wait till Ms says "redfall has been played by 15 million players"

I think we all know to read it as:

"redfall has been tried and discarded by more than 15 million players”

, by now.

 

[Rush2112]

The bugs in Starfield will be glorious.

 

[bender]

the ladder animation

And I thought it looked shitty in first person.

 

[LRKD]

Seeing that you can shoot explosive items, and kill your teammates makes me happy. I wish I could trick my friends into playing with me, but the way everyone talking about how bad this game is there's no way anyone's picking it up

 

[AJUMP23]

Looks like an achievement.

 

[Crayon]

hmm. you know sony saved a lot of grief by giving away destruction allstars. It would be a major black eye but now it's forgotten.

 

[Musilla]

 

[DeepEnigma]

Michelle?

 

[feynoob]

It might be a short video, but the parody got laughing so hard
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KYOFm5a7Bqg

 

[Batiman]

Michelle?

Michelle who?

 

[FrankWza]

I can't wait till Ms says "redfall has been played by 15 million players"

Reached

 

[feynoob]

 

[feynoob]

Reached

https://steamcharts.com/app/1294810

https://steamdb.info/app/1294810/charts/

 

[Crayon]

Arkane is officially a liability now. Good job. High five. They can make something this bad, and ms can release it pretending everything is okay. Match made in heaven.

 

[bender]

@Arenafighter
have you made a follow-up to that epic statement?

 

[Heisenberg007]