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Rust: female player model is in. Genital lottery begins again.
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Arkos
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A Link to the Past
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If you think that you can get banned for just having an opinion, you haven't been here very long. There are quite a few posters who persisted for some time while having controversial opinions, because they post in a certain fashion. You'd have to veer into "WBC/KKK" territory for a controversial opinion to be bannable.
Or maybe I'm lying
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
Hope I'm female so I can get rid of my micro-penis.
I think there's inherent fairness in assigning it randomly though which would make it ok for those folks. You're basically rerolling real life for the game.
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
I'm a white guy with a medium sized penis 
MannyToons
Member
Oh, neat!
...Wait, are they all perfectly shaven? That looks pretty silly, lol.
...Wait, are they all perfectly shaven? That looks pretty silly, lol.
I'm a white guy with a medium sized penis
Upgradong
Not really, unless there is a way for you to change sex in-game then it's nothing like in real life.
Since he seems to be interested in exploring sexual identity, I wouldn't be shocked to see him put an option in there through some actual game mechanics not a toggle
Would be legit if you could change sex but not race.
chaobreaker
Member
Oh OK
First few comments of an 11 page thread.
That racist user with the Trump meme avatar (I know, right?) Claim in another thread that he's black and he want to have a white Rust character before throwing additional censored slurs.
Thank you Garry.
Hero Prinny
Member
this is pretty much what i mean:
people change their sex all the time in real life so i don't really see why i can't just choose what gender I want to play as if both options are provided.
What I find amusing is if you ask for games to represent more female players you get told to let the developers do their vision without trying to interfere (I'm talking in general when talking about this stuff on gaming forums in general). A developer does a vision of people getting random characters with no choice of what/who they are and all the sudden the developer is bad cause they're forcing the players to play the game how they want.
I thought we were supposed to bow down to what the developer wants and not criticize?
I thought we were supposed to bow down to what the developer wants and not criticize?
Mayor_McCheeze
Member
I wonder if there is a squad of Jonah Falcons running amok. Slightly out of shape white dudes with 13 1/2" dongs flapping about.
Wait....to they "flap" in this game? Hilarious if they do.
Wait....to they "flap" in this game? Hilarious if they do.
shhhhhhh
Messofanego
Banned
Ehhh all the time, so it's that easy now?
Consumer
Member
I sympathize for these people that bought this in early access with the expectation of playing as a character that they can relate to. Many people find it disengaging and hard to invest into a character that's nothing like them, and since Rust characters are merely 2D cardboard avatars, race/gender are the only relatable factors.
Quite frankly, this feature seems poorly thought out and counterproductive to Garry Newman's purpose. Most people have accepted their IRL race/gender and apply that inherited identity to every game they can; white males tend to customize white male characters and vice versa for black women, for example. He's right that you don't get to pick your race/gender at birth, which is why it's asinine that he's letting (forcing) players to reroll the dice. Characters are our avatars; they're extensions of our physical selves and as such, we should we given the choice to maintain consistency between the two.
Quite frankly, this feature seems poorly thought out and counterproductive to Garry Newman's purpose. Most people have accepted their IRL race/gender and apply that inherited identity to every game they can; white males tend to customize white male characters and vice versa for black women, for example. He's right that you don't get to pick your race/gender at birth, which is why it's asinine that he's letting (forcing) players to reroll the dice. Characters are our avatars; they're extensions of our physical selves and as such, we should we given the choice to maintain consistency between the two.
Let's be real here someone ate the bush.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Artistic integrity only matters when all your characters are straight white cis men or busty Asian beauties!
Hero Prinny
Member
you know what i mean.
See, that's more sensible. It's not so controversial as you think. However, gender is still not a choice, sex characteristic could be a choice.
That said, however, Rust seems to take place in a post-apocalyptic world and everyone starts off naked with almost nothing. Where the hell are these people going to find the necessary hormones and surgeons to change their sex? I mean, if they can find a way to incorporate it into the game, I'm all for it.
alexbull_uk
Member
An interesting idea. I think it's pretty cool.
I played earlier and got swapped from a black male to a white female character.
I played earlier and got swapped from a black male to a white female character.
CountAntonius
Member
The original Character Model from years ago.
Barrylocke
Member
I know this sounds sneaky, but was the game ever explicitly said to allow the player to customize before the shift to your Steam ID doing the job was made?
And even if it was, this game is Early Access, IE not technically finished. This can be seen as just anorher bit of the leeway you get with a title that's technically still in development.
Ultimately, the survival game genre has other games, and the vast majority of them allow for character customization. I don't think its a big issue for there to be one game that chooses to randomize your attributes instead. Nowdays at least, this aspect of the game is very public, so people who buys into it now and gets disappointed at their new virtual look really have themselves to blame.
Looks to me like they have a small tuft of hair to make sure you don't actually see any of the female genitalia.
Pinko Marx
Banned
So people are okay with playing the most generic whit e dude ever, and running around with a bunch of people that look exactly the same. But throw in some variance and shit gets real.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
So what are you in the game?I'm a white guy with a medium sized penis
chaobreaker
Member
Garrett Hawke
Member
And this is why it is a fantastic ideaSome choice comments I found.
skullmuffins
Banned
Sure. Someone with a female character model in Rust can get a sex change after they manage to collect a shit ton of resources. Their model will be changed into a man with scars on his chest and a penis that isn't 100%. They'll also need to take hormones regularly or else they'll incur a debuff or something. Easy-peazy, just like real life.
I dunno, I think the randomization is pretty cool. Interesting how people are OK playing a preassigned model as long as everyone gets the same generic dude, but randomize some features to get some variety and suddenly it's a huge deal, even though you have exactly as much say over your appearance as you did at the start.
Eclectic Jabber Monkey
Member
Bought the game a years or so ago on sale, installed but haven't played it. Time to update it and see what I ended up with, lol.
Over two years in early access and nowhere near finished and this is what people get upset about? Amazing.
Man, I reinstalled this to try to play it again and my god is it terrible. They added all this scrub brush all over the ground and you can't see the fucking resources you're supposed to gather through it. I had to set all the terrain settings to low so I could see the stuff 0.o What a game.
I don't remember it being like that the other time I tried it but it's really...not fun. I had exactly the same issue with ARK. Guess I stick with Subnautica for my survival fix.
I don't remember it being like that the other time I tried it but it's really...not fun. I had exactly the same issue with ARK. Guess I stick with Subnautica for my survival fix.
Compsiox
Banned
Maps are randomly generated. At least give some other servers a try.
alexbull_uk
Member
Some choice comments I found.
I can't believe people actually care this much about the gender of their character.
Does this mean they all refuse to play games like Tomb Raider?
Hero Prinny
Member
yea thats a pretty good argument i guess, can't really think of a counter if you look at it that way.
Stallion Dan
Member
I don't even game on PC so will never play the game, but I find this incredibly stupid.
Yeah lets all laugh at the white guys having to play as black men or women and rage about it. Meanwhile someone who is black or a woman maybe gets stuck playing a white dude yet again. That steam thread has enough comments stating as much.
Don't see why the devs go to the effort of creating so many character types just to not let users pick what they want.
Yeah lets all laugh at the white guys having to play as black men or women and rage about it. Meanwhile someone who is black or a woman maybe gets stuck playing a white dude yet again. That steam thread has enough comments stating as much.
Don't see why the devs go to the effort of creating so many character types just to not let users pick what they want.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Playing as a girl being a turn-off isn't a new phenomenon and it's more widespread than you think, which ends up creating a feedback loop when big publishers refuse to greenlight games with a female protagonist.
Comrade Crunch
Member
That's hardly fair, Rust entered early access really early on in development, and about 8 months in, they scrapped all the work and started over in Unity with new assets and everything. Taking that into consideration, two years really isn't that long, AAA developers can barely push out a game in two years with considerably more people working on it.
bytemovies
Member
Its almost as if nobody has ever heard the phrase "walk a mile in another person's shoes." Honestly I can't even play this game atm but I want to buy a copy just to support what Facepunch is doing. I love everything that is happening here 200%.
As hilarious as it is for white straight male racists to have to play black females, I also like the idea of women or men of different races having to play characters that are completely unlike them. That's the whole point! Its complete and utter equality enforced by the system. No discrimination whatsoever! Its perfect!
As hilarious as it is for white straight male racists to have to play black females, I also like the idea of women or men of different races having to play characters that are completely unlike them. That's the whole point! Its complete and utter equality enforced by the system. No discrimination whatsoever! Its perfect!
THIS
Comrade Crunch
Member
It's a roll of the dice though, like in life, you don't get a choice and that's precisely what they're going for.
Now, i'll preface this by saying I haven't played Rust at all, but I find the fact this is all automatic to be a bit offputting, in a multiplayer sandbox game like this (or any game where a character creator is available) I like to try and create myself. I have no problem if it's a pre set character, but when customization is a option, I like to make myself.
Either way, Rust doesn't really appeal to me too much, so I doubt i'll ever be "affected" as such.
Either way, Rust doesn't really appeal to me too much, so I doubt i'll ever be "affected" as such.