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Sackboy A Big Adventure and Returnal for PC screenshots reportedly leaked.
Holammer
Member
Are there any PC users that don't use headset nowadays? It's not representative of course, but everyone in my circle of friends have sony or sennheiser headsets and yeti mics.I’m glad that more people can enjoy Returnal.
Awesome game and please use a Headset !
Have to go back 20 years to find anyone with these beauties again.
PhaseJump
Banned
I think I'm going to look into and get Sackboy if it shows up on Steam. If it is more Mario than LBP in how it plays.
Probably not a joke. Guy is a console warrior, now with apparently a few delusions of grandeur around who he is, and what he means to Sony.
Probably not a joke. Guy is a console warrior, now with apparently a few delusions of grandeur around who he is, and what he means to Sony.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
It's about the same for me to use as 11. It does not add anything special. Just hides some windows more.
But it looks nice and changes things up a bit, if not for just a sake of it.
tmlDan
Member
Bryan has lost his mind, somebody help him
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Personally I always thought his anti-Jim Ryan crusade was just a farce to balance out his pro-PS views.
I might be wrong though. The guy might be super serious after all.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
So PC returnal gets raytracing. Interesting.
kyliethicc
Member
Nah he’s just passionate
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Eh i don't see how they can push any sort of RT for PS5 version. The game seems to pushed to the max based on 1080p internal resolution. Even if they somehow found additional headroom, I would think upping resolution would take priority over RT features.
This does make me wonder what PC requirements will be.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
This doesn't really affect my plans for a PS5 ATM since Sackboy's almost two years old at this point and Returnal is over a year old (plus that one could be 2023), and the bigger 1P games like Rift Apart and Miles Morales (and Spiderman in general) are still MIA on PC.
But if it means those bigger 1P games come to PC a year or less after PS5, and that's a regular pattern for the non live-service games, then it might be something other people consider. Me? It still won't do too much since I also want PS+ Extra or Premium and there's stuff in the PS Collection I need to play, so I have a sizable backlog in that case and the 1P games are still going to come and I can buy those on the console as I see fit.
What I do hope is that they don't do PC Day 1 for the non live-service games or shorten the release window because I actually feel pushing console & PC Day 1 is why some of Microsoft's 1P games have had ongoing issues. Halo Infinite and even Forza Horizon 5 seem to have issues related to certain technical performance (quite a few with Halo obviously, but FH5 having some big LOD pop-in issues) that I don't think they'd have if the teams weren't split between XBO, Series S, Series X, and a multitude of PC configs on top of that. That might also be why content updates have been rather slow for them.
I don't want Sony's 1P games to suffer those same issues and even though HFW looks fantastic and runs great while being cross-gen I also saw the issues it had performance-wise at launch that, were probably exaggerated for sure, but usually aren't there with big Sony 1P releases. I don't want to see that grow into a bigger issue if they have to start considering a wider net of platforms to optimize for on Day 1 or within a few months of each other. I don't think the trade-offs there are worth it.
So if they can optimize better by focusing on a single platform spec, make sure performance is tight and content where it should be, then worry about porting (if they're going to port) to PC a year or so later, cool. Ideally they could do more content expansions for non live-service games and time those out like 1.5 - 2 years after initial release and release that and a PC port with the original & expanded content simultaneously Day 1, if they really want to do Day 1 for non live-service games in a way that won't potentially negatively impact their console sales and revenue.
But, those are just my thoughts.
Didn't Spiderman get RT added for PS5 with a RT mode?
But if it means those bigger 1P games come to PC a year or less after PS5, and that's a regular pattern for the non live-service games, then it might be something other people consider. Me? It still won't do too much since I also want PS+ Extra or Premium and there's stuff in the PS Collection I need to play, so I have a sizable backlog in that case and the 1P games are still going to come and I can buy those on the console as I see fit.
What I do hope is that they don't do PC Day 1 for the non live-service games or shorten the release window because I actually feel pushing console & PC Day 1 is why some of Microsoft's 1P games have had ongoing issues. Halo Infinite and even Forza Horizon 5 seem to have issues related to certain technical performance (quite a few with Halo obviously, but FH5 having some big LOD pop-in issues) that I don't think they'd have if the teams weren't split between XBO, Series S, Series X, and a multitude of PC configs on top of that. That might also be why content updates have been rather slow for them.
I don't want Sony's 1P games to suffer those same issues and even though HFW looks fantastic and runs great while being cross-gen I also saw the issues it had performance-wise at launch that, were probably exaggerated for sure, but usually aren't there with big Sony 1P releases. I don't want to see that grow into a bigger issue if they have to start considering a wider net of platforms to optimize for on Day 1 or within a few months of each other. I don't think the trade-offs there are worth it.
So if they can optimize better by focusing on a single platform spec, make sure performance is tight and content where it should be, then worry about porting (if they're going to port) to PC a year or so later, cool. Ideally they could do more content expansions for non live-service games and time those out like 1.5 - 2 years after initial release and release that and a PC port with the original & expanded content simultaneously Day 1, if they really want to do Day 1 for non live-service games in a way that won't potentially negatively impact their console sales and revenue.
But, those are just my thoughts.
Didn't Spiderman get RT added for PS5 with a RT mode?
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Stuart360
Member
Even though i got on with Bryank, this shit is pathetic.
Some of you take this fanboy shit way too seriously.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
It's bryank. What did you expect?
ChiefDada
Gold Member
kyliethicc
, avatar. who?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Returnal should find a decent PC crowd if there's any justice in this world
Lognor
Banned
At this point do you actually think pc would save dreams? Dreams is dead dead dead
Stuart360
Member
PC is the home of Roguelikes, it will do fine.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
I wonder if Returnal will be too easy if the mouse controls are good. Maybe best played with a controller for the genuine experience?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
I’m selling my PS5. What’s the point anymore.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
ChorizoPicozo
Member
never bet against PC degenerate players.
names are for friends
Member
But you won't be able to play Astro's Playroom! The one game they will never port.
e: Talking of selling consoles I sold my PS5 days ago and replaced the controller with a new PS4 one and I've gotta say, it's night-and-day with how well I can play some more demanding games when I don't have to contend with the cushioned face buttons on the PS5 controller
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Look Im no Bryank and Im glad Sony isnt just doing a bare minimum job porting these games, but they shouldve offered something. maybe a 40 fps mode? I paid $500 to Sony for a PS5. $70 for the game on Day one. One of the few 500k players to do it. And now they go above and beyond for PC users? Meanwhile Im sitting here with my $600 trying to arm chair engineer an RT solution for this ray traced capable console.
I mean the game isnt even pushing any graphical boundaries. Why is it even 1080p? It almost never drops frames so its likely running 80-100 fps like Ratchet. Why not release a VRR patch like insomniac did? Why not offer a 40 fps mode with ray traced reflections and skip shadows if thats too expensive?
I can see why some people might feel a bit disappointed by how much effort Sony is putting into their PC ports because the same effort isnt being put into PS5 versions.
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
Go ahead, Sony doesn't care. You're one out of 120+ million PlayStation console owners. Insignificant, even more so now due to titles coming to even more users on PC. Sony stays winning while you throw a temper tantrum over exclusivity.
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Swift_Star
Banned
What a clown.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Who knows if Housemarque is even doing the port. Could be Nixxes or Iron Galaxy or Jetpack or anyone else. Also nothing stopping them from adding things now. Didn't they just release a multiplayer patch?
Belthazar
Member
Yeah, that's the only way I see then doing that as I doubt them wanting the comparisons to be too harsh on the PS5 version.
Certainly wouldn’t kill it
Stuart360
Member
I dont think its always a casre of Sony going 'above and beyond' for PC users. I mean maybe PS5 just couldnt do ray tracing, the game is already at 1080p internal resolution right?.
There is also the posibility that Sony maybe thinking of going back and updating PS5 games whenever PS5 Pro comes out.
Swift_Star
Banned
I don’t really care since I have no desire for a pc.
nowhat
Member
One (quite essential in Returnal) thing is being able to dash/dodge into a certain direction, and no, WASD doesn't offer that. So while mouse aiming will help, in other aspects a controller is probably better. And if Sony/Housemarque ports all of the DualSense features over... yeah, it's the genuine experience. Not many games so far really have taken advantage of the controller fully, but Returnal certainly is one of them.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Wish you'd say this to Bryank, poor guy seems to be losing his mind over some ports.
And of course there are reasons to own a PS5. Some exclusives might never get ported, and it's cheaper and easier to use than a PC.
I'll always prefer playing on PC, but consoles still hold their value imo.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Good, because I don’t care about Sony too. At least with Series X I have a good reason to keep it as it’s an excellent BC machine that allows me to play great games that never was released on PC (like SSX3 for example). I just hope that Sony will continue to release their games on PC. If GT7 is announced for PC, I’m selling my PS5 the same day.
DukeNukem00
Banned
Of course you can do that on m/kb. Dont forget that m/kb is a combo. Its not sepparate. You use the mouse if you want to have very granular change in dirrection, but its 100% not necessary. You can dash in any dirrection just with wsad. The main dirrections plus diagonal ones cover the entirety of 360. But no pc player plays like that anyway, you always use the mouse in combination with wsad. You dont play like console players do on pads where the movement is mainly used. On PC the camera is mainly used. Theres not gonna be a single thing that wont be 10 times better on m/kb than pads in this game
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Swift_Star
Banned
Good for you I guess? Go sell your ps5 already. We don’t care lmao.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Does it matter? Sony is funding the dev. Sony should be funding both PS5 and PC enhancements.
My issue isnt with Housemarque here. Imagine if Forza Horizon 5 shipped with RT on PC only even though the Series X is perfectly capable of RT. You dont think people would be miffed about it?
Topher
Gold Member
Because it was sold to the wrong audience. PC is the ideal audience for Dreams.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
If you don’t care then why you comment? Make up your mind.
FunkMiller
Member
Swift_Star
Banned
Because you’re posting on a forum and we’re allowed to say we don’t care about your post. And again: we don’t care if this frustrastes you.
Sell your ps5 already.
names are for friends
Member
How old are you people lol throwing a tanty because the guy said he was going to sell a console because exclusives are going to PC. Why take personal offence at someone selling something they no longer get value from?
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kyliethicc
Member
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Hey, welcome to NeoGAF, you'll get used to it sooner or later.
Swift_Star
Banned
How old are you throwing a tantrum over a person saying they don’t care about what the other said?
Why take personal offense of something that isn’t directed at you?
Swift_Star
Banned
Dreams fits pc perfectly and KB+M would work way better for the game than a gamepad. Can’t really see why they wouldn’t release it.
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