PS4 got robbed. Could've easily reached 120m but Sony just let it die.PS5 Quarterly hardware shipments compared to PS4
Yearly Hardware shipments compared to other Playstation Hardware
You talking about the forecast?
I'm too lazy to do the proper math. Because Yen absolutely got destroyed, I got PS revenue at $21b, but that obviously can't be right. Must use different rates each quarter.
Yeah, the numbers aren't anywhere close to 35bn. I have 24.37bn using their quarter conversion rates.
It's unlikely console sales would be "close to even" if shortages weren't an issue. Xbox doesn't have the same worldwide appeal as PlayStation.
Well that's the thing, the US is such a big market that Xbox taking the lead there again will really cut into the PS5's worldwide market share. Xbox is also making good progress in other markets, and the constant flow of exclusives starting this Summer will really help its worldwide appeal. The console shortage kind of allowed Xbox to get its game pipeline in order. Without it we'd probably see Sony with a lot of momentum burying Xbox with news of a record # of consoles being sold and a big sales lead.
How much you want to bet?
I'm not going to bet anything with randos on Neogaf, but I will enjoy coming back and reading threads like this in the future lol. It's just common sense though, look at how well Xbox is doing right now and how well the Series X and S have been received. Look at how well Game Pass is doing and how much positivity it brings to the brand. Look at the insane amount of games that Xbox has in development. Contrary to popular belief on here, most gamers don't have some rule against buying Xbox, they just needed MS to give them a reason to buy one.
Yea, it makes no sense. The meme was true back then, Xbox had no games and it's a miracle the Xbox One did as well as it did. The Xbox division this gen couldn't be more different than the Xbox division last gen.
Source for easier to produce in regards to chip shortage?
It's a fact that only Sony is dealing with a chip shortage? Lol
You really don't see any difference at all between the Xbox One and Series X/S? The dramatic changes you're talking about have already happened.
So I collected some information. This past record should give us some insights into how PS5 and Xbox Series consoles are stacking up against each other and may give us some idea on what the sales ratio could be by the end of this generation.
Xbox One sold 10 million units by Nov. 2014. PS4 had sold ~14 million units in the same time frame. Ratio of 1.4, pretty much the same as it is right now. Source.
The sentiment at that time was that "Sony's winning streak might be coming to an end soon."
In April 2015, Xbox One outpaced PS4 (deja vu!), and Xbox One sales were reportedly up by 63% from last year.
The sentiment at that time was that, because of the price cut and other reasons, PS4 will have a hard time competing with and outselling Xbox.
Then from late 2015 onwards, Xbox One sales started declining.
I believe that the current-gen is following the same trends as the last-gen did. Early adopters purchased PS and Xbox when both systems launched amid supply shortage. PS4 outsold Xbox by around 1.3 - 1.4. However, deeper into the generation, especially after late 2015 when supplies started becoming more and more common, PS4 continued gaining lead over Xbox One consoles.
I think it's safe to assume, unless somethings dramatically change the future course, that we'll be seeing a very similar generation unfolding over the next few years.
No it couldn't, because Series is the best selling Xbox ever, and Xbox One was at 10 million after 12 months.
you've completely missed the context of the comments. people are saying if it wasnt for the chip shortage, x would outsell y, but everyone is dealing with said chip shortage.
again its funny using the "no official numbers" excuse when it suits you. we know officially it outsold all other previous xbox consoles in a certain timeframe, plus we have NPD and other sales data and metrics. Some well known analysts already put the estimates forth. Dismissing this as "no official" when you know we dont get "official" numbers is grasping at straws.
See post #46 for some evidence (and two people are claiming the ratio in this very thread). There are probably more examples out there.
More evidence that some people on here are holding on tightly to how good they felt during the Xbox One gen lmao.
Like the RAM, which it has less of? Maybe the SSD which is also smaller? It has less everything than the Series X.
1 month difference in production, if at all....
You should chill until both a readily available, ps5 just crossed the 20mil mark, xbox is a what 15mil, both xbone and ps4 crossed the 50mil mark. There is a long way to go my friend
Has this been confirmed? I must've missed it.
Why do keep on posting this nonsense? If an opportunity arose and Sony needed to buy a company for $30 billion then they could do it. It has to be something that will bring a sizable return or propel the company to another level. Sony don't need to go out and splash massive amounts of cash as they already had good in-house development studios. They also have loads of IP too.
It would only take 3.2TF PSS5 to perform better than 4TF XSS.
It would only take 3.2TF PSS5 to perform better than 4TF XSS.
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Race to the Bottom!
Are you saying that it never happens that if you can't find the item you wanted and you know it's massively supply constrained you wouldn't buy an alternative?
Read the sticky, warrior.
