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SolidSnakex · Jul 8, 2005

Himuro said:
More like early Dreamcast. It has nice capabilities.

Want to show us a DS game that looks as good as VF3 or Sonic Adventure. That's early DC stuff.

Mrbob · Jul 8, 2005

olimario · Jul 8, 2005

Mrbob said:
Show a gameplay pic and not a replay pic of Mario Kart DS.

Taken from the latest video.

And I would never say the DS meets with the DC. The DS is top notch n64/ps stuff.

Ranger X · Jul 8, 2005

hmmm... Crash Team Racing looks better and i wouldn't be surprised it's also technically more demanding.

When there's as good looking 3D like Gex3 /Soul Reaver /Crash Bandicoot be sure to gimme a call Oli.

olimario · Jul 8, 2005

Wyzdom said:
hmmm... Crash Team Racing looks better and i wouldn't be surprised it's also technically more demanding.

When there's as good looking 3D like Gex3 /Soul Reaver /Crash Bandicoot be sure to gimme a call Oli.

Well, you think CTR looks better so I won't waste my time.

Ranger X · Jul 8, 2005

olimario said:
Well, you think CTR looks better so I won't waste my time.

But maybe i'm gonna miss on some nice 3D games! Please call me dude when it happens.

Seriously, did you play Crash Team Racing? There was nice graphic in there, you got like the worse screenshot to show the game lol

olimario · Jul 8, 2005

Wyzdom said:
But maybe i'm gonna miss on some nice 3D games! Please call me dude when it happens.

Seriously, did you play Crash Team Racing? There was nice graphic in there, you got like the worse screenshot to show the game lol

I took the best one I could find at Gamespot. You're blind if you think there is a PS platformer that looks better than Mario 64 DS.

Drinky Crow · Jul 8, 2005

Let's not fuckin' insult the Dreamcast, which ran at twice the resolution, had actual texture filtering and alpha support, and some order of magnitude greater polygon throughput.

Blow those Mario Kart screens up to the size of the CTR ones, and you'll see just how very PSOne the DS 3D is. The DS hardware (lack of) "feature" set is almost directly comparable to the PSOne's.

Ranger X · Jul 8, 2005

Soul Reaver used one of the best 3D engine on the PS1 and looked better than anything i've seen on DS so far. There was more textures and stuff on the screen on Soul Reaver and i'm pretty sure the poly count is also higher. Plug back your PS1 and rent Soul Reaver or something.

Ranger X · Jul 8, 2005

Rascals (while being a terrible game) is also anothe one that looks better than Mario64x4
Nobody seems to have nice screenshots by still, this one gives an idea:

Ruzbeh · Jul 8, 2005

Wyzdom said:
Soul Reaver used one of the best 3D engine on the PS1 and looked better than anything i've seen on DS so far. There was more textures and stuff on the screen on Soul Reaver and i'm pretty sure the poly count is also higher. Plug back your PS1 and rent Soul Reaver or something.

I checked some screens. It does look better than any DS game so far. But Soul Reaver is a very late game (1999) on the PS1, so the developers could really push the hardware. The DS hasn't even been out for a year now. So while you are correct, it is an unfair comparison.

Ranger X · Jul 8, 2005

Ruzbeh said:
I checked some screens. It does look better than any DS game so far. But Soul Reaver is a very late game (1999) on the PS1, so the developers could really push the hardware. The DS hasn't even been out for a year now. So while you are correct, it is an unfair comparison.

First gen PS1 didn't looked as good as some first gen DS indeed. Back then it wasn't as a big deal as today for me. It's just that i'm waiting for the DS to show me Soul Reaver and more to stop whinning.

Mallrat83 · Jul 8, 2005

Drinky Crow said:
Let's not fuckin' insult the Dreamcast, which ran at twice the resolution, had actual texture filtering and alpha support, and some order of magnitude greater polygon throughput.

Blow those Mario Kart screens up to the size of the CTR ones, and you'll see just how very PSOne the DS 3D is. The DS hardware (lack of) "feature" set is almost directly comparable to the PSOne's.

But did the PS1 output to two different screens at once? NO!

I rest my case. I'm out people, be sure to tip your waitresses.

Insertia · Jul 8, 2005

olimario said:
To Crash Team Racing

I think the DS has the edge on PSOne.

hah! Crash Team Racing looks multiple times better than MK DS. Have you even played the game?

Zeo · Jul 8, 2005

Insertia said:
hah! Crash Team Racing looks multiple times better than MK DS.

Except that's not Crash Team Racing that you posted. That's the GameCube sequel, dumbass.

Insertia · Jul 8, 2005

Zeo said:
Except that's not Crash Team Racing that you posted. That's the GameCube sequel, dumbass.

shat, you're right. :lol I still stand by my statement that CTR looks multiple times better that MK DS.

Ranger X · Jul 8, 2005

:lol :lol

Zer0 · Jul 8, 2005

i want to see something like TOBAL2 ( high res 60 fps ) on nds

Zeo · Jul 8, 2005

Insertia said:
shat, you're right. :lol I still stand by my statement that CTR looks multiple times better that MK DS.

Yeah uh, you already lost.

And if you ACTUALLY think

looks MULTIPLE TIMES BETTER than

.. then I think you need some eyes. They don't look THAT different at all. But as an owner of CTR, I can almost definitely say that MK DS has better frame rate than CTR, judging by videos. CTR's frame rate is crap.

Drinky Crow · Jul 8, 2005

They're both 30 fps, you wacky little munchkin!

Zeo · Jul 8, 2005

Drinky Crow said:
They're both 30 fps, you wacky little munchkin!

Again, MK DS has better frame rate than CTR.

bigNman · Jul 8, 2005

Mario Kart DS is 60 fps.

Andy787 · Jul 8, 2005

olimario said:
I took the best one I could find at Gamespot. You're blind if you think there is a PS platformer that looks better than Mario 64 DS.

radioheadrule83 · Jul 8, 2005

Ahh! Is that Crash Warped? One of the last PlayStation games I ever bought.
Does look great. Mario 64 is the better game though

Tak is running at a good clip - the one thing that annoys me about things like the Rayman release is bad framerate - but it's still Tak at the end of the day. I won't be buying it.

DS owners will still buy on recommendation. Be that from TV shows, magazines, message boards, or friends. It won't matter if the games are 3d or 2d. Whether they have a PSP or not. If it's one of the better games to get for their DS, they're gonna buy it.

Andy787 · Jul 8, 2005

Zeo · Jul 8, 2005

Drinky Crow said:
They're both 30 fps, you wacky little munchkin!

And actually, now that I've looked around a bit, Mario Kart DS is 60 fps.

<3333

Deleted member 284 · Jul 8, 2005

Zeo said:
And actually, now that I've looked around a bit, Mario Kart DS is 60 fps.

<3333

E3 version was definetly around 60fps

akascream · Jul 8, 2005

Lol, talk about rose colored glasses. Did that guy really think the gamecube version was the psx version?

E3 version was definetly around 60fps

All I know is, if it is anywhere near 3-5fps, your ass is grass mr.

jett · Jul 8, 2005

Himuro said:
More like early Dreamcast. It has nice capabilities.

:lol WHAT THE FUCK!? You realize that games like Sonic Adventure and Shenmue are "early Dreamcast". Please STFU.

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