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DMczaf said:Don't forget, the BD Live Commentary is tomorrow night!
somebody ask him what Christian Bale smells like. I have to know.
DMczaf said:Don't forget, the BD Live Commentary is tomorrow night!
You of all people should know too!DMczaf said:Why didn't you tell me Guzim!?
Solo said:You are officially batshit-insane-obsessed with the movie when you are ranking the scenes of individual characters.
Solo said:You are officially batshit-insane-obsessed with the movie when you are ranking the scenes of individual characters.
DMczaf said:
SephCast said:Hey Gambol, Why So Serious?
joshuagor44 said:Why are you so serious?
NullPointer said:The only problem with this scene to me is that you never see how he killed Gambol. A knife to the cheek is instantly fatal? Whazzat?
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BenjaminBirdie said:Would you believe I just saw this tonight for the first time?
Yyyyeah. Fucking amazing.
BenjaminBirdie said:Would you believe I just saw this tonight for the first time?
Yyyyeah. Fucking amazing.
Buckethead said:Wasn't the blade IN Gambol's mouth?
I guess Nolan is employing an old Hitchcockian truth of "less is more".
The audience's imagination is far more horrible than anything he could shoot.
I don't think showing exactly what happened was needed. This is a comic book movie afterall. Okay graphic novel, fuck your terminology. Whatever.
It's an incredible, incredible movie, but at the same time it's not entirely dark/realistic. The guy dresses up like a bat and has almost supernatural powers.
Showing exactly what happened would be a little too much for a Batman film methinks, let alone cause problems with the MPAA.
faceless007 said:while "Frost/Nixon" gets an R for fucking language. Apparently 12-year-olds are better served watching the Joker's reign of terror than a film with actual relevance to US history.)
faceless007 said:My problem with the Gambol killing is there's no indication that Joker's actually done anything except for the sudden sting in the score. You don't even really see Joker's hand movement that he slices him, just the aftershot of the body falling. Sure blood and gore aren't needed, but I think it would have been scarier if we'd seen him making a slicing notion from behind.
NullPointer said:OK, am I looking too deep into things or is Nolan using the dogs to represent something? Like mob mentality? The true hungry underbelly of the world when not constrained, or "leashed" by "the plan"?
First the mob has the dogs on the leash at the parking complex. Batman gets attacked and bit - and it really seems to bug the hell out of him. Much later on, mobster guy is killed and eaten by his own dogs (we're led to presume) and now Joker controls the criminal underworld. Joker gives Batman a nice talking to about the thin veneer of civilized society and its "rules", and about how he'll show him how in truth, the people will eat themselves. During the ferry social experiment where he sets out to underscore that very point its the Joker who now controls the dogs. And of course in the end, when Batman has made himself an outcast, he runs from scores of police and their hungry dogs.
Now its one thing to drop a hint - but this movie was literally drowning in dogs.
Batman has joker on the end of a leash at the end of the film, too.NullPointer said:OK, am I looking too deep into things or is Nolan using the dogs to represent something? Like mob mentality? The true hungry underbelly of the world when not constrained, or "leashed" by "the plan"?
First the mob has the dogs on the leash at the parking complex. Batman gets attacked and bit - and it really seems to bug the hell out of him. Much later on, mobster guy is killed and eaten by his own dogs (we're led to presume) and now Joker controls the criminal underworld. Joker gives Batman a nice talking to about the thin veneer of civilized society and its "rules", and about how he'll show him how in truth, the people will eat themselves. During the ferry social experiment where he sets out to underscore that very point its the Joker who now controls the dogs. And of course in the end, when Batman has made himself an outcast, he runs from scores of police and their hungry dogs.
Now its one thing to drop a hint - but this movie was literally drowning in dogs.
ezekial45 said:Don't forget Joker hanging his head out the window.
EDIT: iirc, Zeliard was talking about this several pages back (around the time the movie came out). There is tons of Dog symbology throughout the movie.
SpeedingUptoStop said:"Joker's just a mad dog! I want who ever let him off the leash"
"I'm like a dog chasing cars..."
This is why I'm glad Nolan is the director here. :lolfaceless007 said:My problem with the Gambol killing is there's no indication that Joker's actually done anything except for the sudden sting in the score. You don't even really see Joker's hand movement that he slices him, just the aftershot of the body falling. Sure blood and gore aren't needed, but I think it would have been scarier if we'd seen him making a slicing notion from behind.
Skiptastic said:Yeah, no. Not in the States. I saw it five times. He says "TADA! It's...ah, it's gone..."
What? At no point in the movie are you supposed to like the Joker. He's an evil fuck throughout and I love the character because of this.Elfforkusu said:You're supposed to like the Joker during the first part of the movie, because while he's doing all these nasty things, he's being hilarious at the same time, and besides, all of the people he's doing the nasty things to are gangsters.
Blader5489 said:Wtf? What have you been doing for the last five months?! You work for a comic book site for God's sake! :lol
BenjaminBirdie said:How did he do that?
ezekial45 said:EDIT: iirc, Zeliard was talking about this several pages back (around the time the movie came out). There is tons of Dog symbology throughout the movie.
Started by Solo obviously.Mr. Sam said:In two years time they'll be a TDK Depreciation Thread. You'll see. You'll all see.
NullPointer said:The only problem with this scene to me is that you never see how he killed Gambol. A knife to the cheek is instantly fatal? Whazzat?
Mr. Sam said:In two years time they'll be a TDK Depreciation Thread. You'll see. You'll all see.
Pedobear said:Started by Solo obviously.
We bet it all on him. GAF took the best of us and tore him down. People will lose all hope.CajoleJuice said:Look at the monster you've created, GAF.
THE BAT VOICE HAS GONE TOO FAR! I CAN'T EVEN SHOW THIS MOVIE TO MY FRIENDS BECAUSE OF IT!Mr. Sam said:In two years time they'll be a TDK Depreciation Thread. You'll see. You'll all see.
fallengorn said:We bet it all on him. GAF took the best of us and tore him down. People will lose all hope.