Shmunter
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I have 5 google homes around the house, and Apple phones out the fanny. privacy be damned!
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The microphone housed in PS5’s Dualsense controller could be a big deal
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Shmunter
Member
What’s the reference to?
Well, 3ds had a mic, was not that great 
I can understand the use for voice chat, but we'll ... They make a big fuzz about the audio chip, how good it is e.g for headsets (e.g. psvr without headset?) and than they think a mic inside the controller is a good idea. It seems they need the audio chip to reduce/canceling all the other sounds with a mic so far away from your mouth.
BTW, this also means lower battery life for the controller.
I can understand the use for voice chat, but we'll ... They make a big fuzz about the audio chip, how good it is e.g for headsets (e.g. psvr without headset?) and than they think a mic inside the controller is a good idea. It seems they need the audio chip to reduce/canceling all the other sounds with a mic so far away from your mouth.
BTW, this also means lower battery life for the controller.
Agnostic2020
Member
Nothing ? Why would I fear mic? U r typing from ur phone which is 24 hour listening to you and picks up words u say to show u ads based on that . We are wayyyyy pass that point unfortunately. I can't disable my phone mic but I can disable dualsense mic .
nikolino840
Member
Not if Is powerful like during plays or making movies the mics are pretty distant
MilkyJoe
Member
We have nothing but 2 Motorola phones, they'll be no snooping in the Milky household.
VertigoOA
Banned
Also far easier to pick up tv audio over a headset so that likely means other player voices coming over the tv or controller itself. So they will hear themselves echo? Trash
They could’ve cut costs instead of adding more useless features to a 90$ controller that will never need a lightbar or built-in mic and speaker (or gyro controls!).
The mic input on the ds4 should’ve been standard. Paddle triggers should be standard. (i like the touchpad tho!).
They could’ve cut costs instead of adding more useless features to a 90$ controller that will never need a lightbar or built-in mic and speaker (or gyro controls!).
The mic input on the ds4 should’ve been standard. Paddle triggers should be standard. (i like the touchpad tho!).
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Soodanim
Gold Member
I'd imagine that the controller mic will have two sides to its lifetime. One will be the early in-game inclusions that will be gimmicky and ultimately fade out after and not be something that ages well. Then there's the other side that will see long-term use - no-headset chat and voice commands (I'm guessing there will be an option to disable OS-level commands to save battery life).
Enjoy the privacy concerns articles when the PS5 lands.
Enjoy the privacy concerns articles when the PS5 lands.
Shmunter
Member
Hehe, why the secrets bro? What have you to hide?
Shifty1897
Member
Didn't they literally put in the same paragraph where they introduced the microphone that you'll probably want to use a headset microphone for longer play?
I expect it to be the same quality as the speaker on the PS4 controller.
I expect it to be the same quality as the speaker on the PS4 controller.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
No it couldn't
turtlepowa
Banned
It think now we got it all or are we missing a topic about some Ps5 part that is not a big deal or game changer?
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
The idea of a game console maker putting a microphone in the box that was always listening was the equivalent of giving someone cancer on purpose.
BusierDonkey
Member
Built-in mics aren't a new concept, and they've never been used well. I don't expect this to change.
Agnostic2020
Member
Dualsense has active noise canceling and anything with noise canceling has been a premium product haha just saying
MilkyJoe
Member
The sounds of coitus...
Shmunter
Member
Solo?
D.Final
Banned
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bitbydeath
Gold Member
Do you always use a headset when talking on phones or do you speak freely into the mouthpiece?
MeatSafeMurderer
Member
Do you hold the controller about an inch from your mouth when playing or is it in your lap?
Is the audio coming out of a small speaker directly into your ear or out of your TV / speaker setup?
bitbydeath
Gold Member
I use speaker mode a lot when I’m working at home, in the car as well with hands free. The tech works just fine.
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MeatSafeMurderer
Member
There's a special hell just for people who put people on loudspeaker unnecessarily. As anyone who has ever been a victim of this heinous crime will tell you...it sounds like shit.
Don't be inconsiderate. Use a headset.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
The tech has evolved greatly. You often can’t even tell when someones on hands free until you hear someone else talking to you that you didn’t know was there.
MeatSafeMurderer
Member
That's bullshit and you know it.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
No it isn’t. How many years ago did you last try it?
MeatSafeMurderer
Member
Earlier this year. Sounded like shit, caught the switchover immediately. As the mic moves away from an audio source, it sounds worse. This is just a fact I'm afraid. Audio vibrations are "analogue" like that. Nothing you can do with the tech can fix this.
ZehDon
Gold Member
Hmmm, ok, not sure if you're trolling me here, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you just didn't click on the links. In the second link, to the PlayStation website, it describes the components of the "Mono Chat Earbud" follows: A - Earpiece, B - Microphone, C - MIC Switch, and D - Clip. Item B there is the relevant one - the built in Microphone. As the Mono Chat Earbud was bundled with all PlayStation 4's, and the Mono Chat Earbud included a built-in Microphone, all PlayStation 4's came bundled with a Microphone. I'll address item two in response to the below:
Re-reading my posts, I didn't make my point very clear, so I apologise for the confusion. In direct response: you're absolutely correct - voice control technology is indeed in Alexa and Google Home enabled devices right now. That actually wasn't my point, so again, apologies. We're posting in a thread about the microphone being a "big deal". As I pointed about above, the PS4 already came with a microphone, and it didn't result in... anything, and certainly nothing resembling a "big deal".
Now, the technology behind Alexa and Google Home is software based, using fairly low quality microphones to just generate raw audio input. This is why the technology has a number of issues. This includes most "digital assistants" in mobile devices. It... kinda works, but not well enough for anyone to really care, or just it for more than setting unimportant reminders or reading text messages back to you.
So, if PS5's voice control implementation is just raw audio input from a cheap microphone, then it's really exactly the same as the PS4's current implementation in use today - and there's no reason to think it will be a "big deal" just because "the PS5". However, if the hardware in the controller is actually designed to mitigate a lot of the issues, resulting in cleaner, better user audio input for the PlayStation 5, which could result in much better audio commands... then the cost of that hardware will be expensive, because that kind of hardware isn't cheap. With all things considered, I don't think this is the case - I think Sony went with a couple of cheap microphones to create a basic array. This is why I don't think we'll see it amount to a "big deal": the PlayStation 4 can already do voice commands of this nature, developers can already design games knowing everyone has a microphone - and what happened? No one used it, no one developed for it, and no one cared.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
That and polycom are a lot better than a cheap loudspeaker and mic in a regular phone.
polybius80
Member
they dont, its optional
they say is for a quick conversation it still have the audio jack input like DS4
"DualSense also adds a built-in microphone array, which will enable players to easily chat with friends without a headset – ideal for jumping into a quick conversation. But of course, if you are planning to chat for a longer period, it’s good to have that headset handy."
Introducing DualSense, the New Wireless Game Controller for PlayStation 5
See the first images of DualSense, which will bring the sense of touch to PS5 gameplay.
blog.us.playstation.com
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Screamer-RSA
Member
Lol expect an army of squeakers in you ear from now on with the added ability to hear their button clicks when they are not squeaking.
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polybius80
Member
its used in some games
also in some VR games its used, the PS Camera also has a mic so you not necessarily need the controller
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TheDreadLord
Member
If it is used for OS commands Kinect-like than I’m fine. Other than that is just a piece of garbage to reduce battery life.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Point received. I wasn’t aware of any microphones that came in the box. That said millions of others probably weren’t aware of it either. Having it now built directly into the equipment everyone uses does however mean it can now be taken greater advantage of.
As for the build quality we’ll have to wait and see. It containing noise cancelling does show some thought has gone into it.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
it literally has a button on it that says MUTE I believe
BigLee74
Member
Kinect was absolutely shit as an in game microphone, and it had all your fancy noise cancellation functionality too, along with a big calibratiion set-up. Given its size and price, I would image its internal components were a good deal more capable than whatever gets squeezed into a small controller.
I would therefore bet my house (ok too much, maybe my wife?) that in game chat using a controller will be every bit as bad, and opening it up to everybody will result in a horrible experience and mass usage of in game muting!
I would therefore bet my house (ok too much, maybe my wife?) that in game chat using a controller will be every bit as bad, and opening it up to everybody will result in a horrible experience and mass usage of in game muting!
Manstructiclops
Banned
It's another retarded gimmick that will add another 10 bucks to the RRP of a replacement controller. Just fuck off already with your light bars and speakers. Pointless.
HaveButOneLife
Banned
Do you have a mute button? jk
nemiroff
Gold Member
I have to admit I find this whole thing intriguing because I just can't figure out what kind of problem Sony is trying to fix here. Especially since headsets have firmly been the established default for a long time - and the apparent superior solution.
TLDR; What year is it ? [insert meme pic here]
TLDR; What year is it ? [insert meme pic here]
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
I don't see it. Kinect was standard and I'd back MS/Cortana with the wealth of development and audience reach internationally and language support etc.
It didn't take off then, it won't take off now either.
It didn't take off then, it won't take off now either.
GermanZepp
Member
I dont Like voice commands at all. But let's wait and see what happens. The mic for quick voice chat or partys is nice though. I have some more expensive headsets with no mic so is nice to have that option.
LemmingWithaParachute
Banned
"PlayStation, start Metal Gear Solid HD Collec..."
"nevermind"
The last thing I want is tinny speakers and poor quality mic. Though I do expect Sony to surprise us with the audio quality. The vita speakers werent bad from memory.
"nevermind"
The last thing I want is tinny speakers and poor quality mic. Though I do expect Sony to surprise us with the audio quality. The vita speakers werent bad from memory.
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Potato Chip PRO
Member
I'd MUCH prefer using a headset than the mic built on the DuelSense.... Besides, the mic is aimed at your crotch the majority of the time.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
This made me chuckle. I gotta believe the PS5 is gonna have quiet acoustics. The fan noise was a pretty common complaint this gen, I’m sure Cerny has a better solution this time around
my hips don’t lie
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