Dr.brain64
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Agree 100%.
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Mr Branding
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Spanish
cireza
Member
I was super skeptical at first, and the game was an absolute blast in the end. An 8/10 game, as far as I am concerned. But it is not for everyone, despite the numerous efforts made by the developers to avoid losing the player.
And it is one the few games that actually look and run good on the Switch. This is a rare breed.
And it is one the few games that actually look and run good on the Switch. This is a rare breed.
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Captain Toad
Banned
OP still won't reveal whether he even played this game in which he agrees with this one, negative review.
The Skull
Member
They're not strictly stealth sections. You can choose how to approach it.
Marty-McFly
Banned
It's like people find the three negative opinion pieces on the internet about a game (this girl, Jaffe) and start threads about it.
RDaneelOlivaw
Member
I felt like I was the only person in the entire world who didn't like Dread. At least there are two of us!!! The fake open map, the idiotic qte melee boss parts, the TERRRRRRRRRRRRIBLE controls which require octopus finger multiple button combos to do even the simplest things .... just all of it. Terrible.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Portugeezer
Gold Member
Alter_Fridge
Member
Pa(l)m
Magnific0giganticus
Banned
I only had to watch a full playthrough (on several sittings) to know what it is about. Most overrated and overpriced game of the year.
Dr.Morris79
Member
Where do I find a Pam? Most/all women I know wouldnt even know how to turn on a console, let alone play one..
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Imagine stating that Dread has a bad map system.
Why are people trying so hard to shit on a Nintendo game that won’t even move huge numbers, will never be as remotely influential as say BOTW, and sure as hell won’t win GOTY from any big outlet? I can understand getting all jealous and defensive when a game you don’t like sells a dozen million copies in a heartbeat and is sure to snatch GOTY away from that other game you liked more. But scraping the bottom of the barrel to find one review that agrees with you about a very competent game like Nintendo is scamming the entire world?
Oh, and about the price. Nobody forced Team Cherry to sell their very good metroidvania game for peanuts, setting a terrible precedent not only for the industry, but for themselves too. I played Metroid Dread 5 times in a row, while most AAA devs ask the same price or more day 1 for games that are hardly interesting enough to make me play through them just once. I got my money’s worth out of the game. Too expensive for you? Don’t buy.
Why are people trying so hard to shit on a Nintendo game that won’t even move huge numbers, will never be as remotely influential as say BOTW, and sure as hell won’t win GOTY from any big outlet? I can understand getting all jealous and defensive when a game you don’t like sells a dozen million copies in a heartbeat and is sure to snatch GOTY away from that other game you liked more. But scraping the bottom of the barrel to find one review that agrees with you about a very competent game like Nintendo is scamming the entire world?
Oh, and about the price. Nobody forced Team Cherry to sell their very good metroidvania game for peanuts, setting a terrible precedent not only for the industry, but for themselves too. I played Metroid Dread 5 times in a row, while most AAA devs ask the same price or more day 1 for games that are hardly interesting enough to make me play through them just once. I got my money’s worth out of the game. Too expensive for you? Don’t buy.
Ailynn
Faith - Hope - Love
I'm a huge Metroid fan, and hope it wins GotY, because Metroid Dread is my personal game of the decade. It was everything I've hoped for and more since 2001.
It's okay if you didn't like it if you played it. If you didn't play it and you are a Metroid fan, you should give it a chance. It's made new fans of the Metroid series who've never tried them before.
No hate intended whatsoever, but I don't understand the feeling of needing to tell people a game is crap when it's almost universally loved. There are plenty of games people love that I personally never want to touch, but I'm not going to try to convince them they are bad games and not worth their money.
Honestly, though...I'm sure even people who loved Metroid Dread would look at me like I'm crazy. I bought 3 copies of the game: One digital, one Special Edition through a scalper, and another physical standard edition for one of my best friends and a better controller for him to enjoy it more to the fullest. I also bought both official Amiibos, and a 3D printed and functional Amiibo of Raven Beak and Samus' final suit upgrade.
Am I biased? Absolutely.
Still, the vast majority of people who played it love it. It's well-crafted and deserves to be given a chance if you even somewhat enjoy Metroid/Metroidvania titles.
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bender
What time is it?
I'm a huge Metroid fan, and hope it wins GotY, because Metroid Dread is my personal game of the decade. It was everything I've hoped for and more since 2001.
It's okay if you didn't like it if you played it. If you didn't play it and you are a Metroid fan, you should give it a chance. It's made new fans of the Metroid series who've never tried them before.
No hate intended whatsoever, but I don't understand the feeling of needing to tell people a game is crap when it's almost universally loved. There are plenty of games people love that I personally never want to touch, but I'm not going to try to convince them they are bad games and not worth their money.
Still, I'm sure even people who loved Metroid Dread would look at me like I'm crazy...I bought 3 copies of the game: One digital, one Special Edition through a scalper, and another physical standard edition for one of my best friends and a better controller for him to enjoy it more to the fullest. I also bought both official Amiibos, and a 3D printed and functional Amiibo of Raven Beak and Samus' final suit upgrade.
Am I biased? Absolutely.
Is Metroid Dread still a good game for those who are not?
JimboJones
Member
This review aligns with my views thus is the most correct, I better make a thread about it.
Bakkus
Member
I have yet to play this, but please stop using arguments like these to defend games.
BusierDonkey
Member
I also haven't played this game, but I disagree with her. I should create a thread about it.
lostinblue
Banned
This is very weird for me to read.
While I do hope Metroid Prime 4 is progressing, Retro Studios talent has changed a lot, and the work environment seems actually not good over there. Yes, they haven't turned in a bad game yet, but there's wear and tear from doing things the hard way. The radio silence is not a good sign.
As for these guys, I haven't played the game. Still have the 3DS one in my backlog, but I have to say that I'm sure there's nothing in the game that Nintendo didn't agree on or were unsatisfied with. It's probably the best game it can be, and sometimes that has to be good enough.
Some of the opinions I've heard, were more against the direction of the franchise than against the game per see. So that's on Nintendo themselves.
Anyway, play the game if you haven't and make up your opinion.
I have no real opinion against her opinion as I haven't played the game. I do think Nintendo has no reason to lower the price though, they would have to be crazy. (I do think they should sell wii u ports at a discount, but this is not a port and is their heavy hitter of the year sort of thing).
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lostinblue
Banned
Jsisto
Member
There are small nuggets of truth to most of the complaints mentioned, but it's not nearly a big enough deal for it not to be a goty contender, in my opinion. It absolutely deserves to be a full priced game, though. So tired of that baseless criticism. Why does the genre have anything to do with the price? This was not an indie game, and was certainly not a low budget game. Whether or not it's better or as good as other metroidvania is entirely subjective and literally has nothing to do with its price.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
I speak the truth while getting downplayed by console warriors.
Basically, my bullet points are:
-linking your argument to a YouTube video
-stealth account suicides suck and take away from Kretos. Ruined the thread.
-dumb replies from OP and bait prompts
-Forgettable e-personality with wide face
-should not be monetized because there are better reviewers out there.
Not surprised by these "compliants," when SantaC is involved. I have more faith in TaySan.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
My opinion is just as valid as anyone's to me. I'm not pushing my agenda on anyone. To me, the game is absolutely in the top 5 if not top 3 of the year, its a goty contender to me
Ryu Kaiba
Member
I can still see downvotes for the time being, she only has 1.2kWeeelll you can't see them anymore so... Her feelings are safe. Jokes aside, and to be honest I agree with her on some points.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
I don't have the game, but her comments about the art stye echo the reason I really don't care to buy it (despite otherwise loving the franchise). It just looks entirely wrong visually. I get the same "soulless" feeling from the clean surfaces everywhere and the general design. It's extremely off-putting, in every video or trailer that I've watched.
Hellmaker
Member
Ah ok, I thought they shut it of everywhere by now.
Mozzarella
Member
I liked the game but she makes solid points from her side, dont get why she is getting dislikes and hate.
I actually ended up watching 3 more of her videos after that one. lol
I actually ended up watching 3 more of her videos after that one. lol
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Davey Cakes
Member
I’ve been following Pam for a while and really enjoy her content, but this review was mostly off base for me. All of her points are contestable and come down to personal preference.
I mean, the second that Pam made a tweet lamenting the cutscenes I knew we were in for a dissenting view on the game. She isn’t particularly invested in Metroid but she’s very versed in games (Metroidvanias in particular) and would obviously bring nuance to the table.
The comments section wracked my brain. So many people that wanted their biases confirmed. I’ll never understand why people gravitate towards negativity.
I also find it really funny that anyone critical of the game is seen as genuine and those that loved it are just fanboys. A very toxic mindset.
If you folks want more of her opinions, she did an entire Tier List video for Metroidvanias. She’s played a lot. This particular game just didn’t click for her.
I mean, the second that Pam made a tweet lamenting the cutscenes I knew we were in for a dissenting view on the game. She isn’t particularly invested in Metroid but she’s very versed in games (Metroidvanias in particular) and would obviously bring nuance to the table.
The comments section wracked my brain. So many people that wanted their biases confirmed. I’ll never understand why people gravitate towards negativity.
I also find it really funny that anyone critical of the game is seen as genuine and those that loved it are just fanboys. A very toxic mindset.
If you folks want more of her opinions, she did an entire Tier List video for Metroidvanias. She’s played a lot. This particular game just didn’t click for her.
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kunonabi
Member
The map's problem is readability. It's just cluttered with samey vague symbols. It also needed clearing marking for unobtained/obtained items. At a glance the slightly faded symbols it uses don't work that well. It's does have a lot of great features but that doesn't completely absolve its issues. It also does a poor job of alerting to the constant closed off paths the game keeps forcing on you which makes getting where you need to be more of a pain than it needs to be.
Urban
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Davey Cakes
Member
This is hyperbolic.
The controls in particular are robust and excellent. HOWEVER, there’s no reason why Dread (or any game of this type) can’t allow for button re-mapping. It hurts accessibility.
See? I can point out flaws without shitting on the game.
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Davey Cakes
Member
Hollow Knight is legit worth $60. I bought it twice and still didn’t pay that much. Another game that Pam loves (Blasphemous) drops to $8 on Steam sometimes. Just because these games are severely underpriced doesn’t mean Metroid is overpriced.
Marty-McFly
Banned
You know a game is good when it prompts BOTW like clickbait afterward.
Dread and BOTW are two of the best playing games ever, if you can't detect that you are noob, fanboy, shill or troll.
Turn in your gamer card if you hate on greatness.
Dread and BOTW are two of the best playing games ever, if you can't detect that you are noob, fanboy, shill or troll.
Turn in your gamer card if you hate on greatness.
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Marty-McFly
Banned
Just like they didn't like BOTW.
Strange such magnificent games have gotten such stupid amounts same clickbait hate.
carlosrox
Banned
Pretty much disagree with all those bullet points one way or another.
Her most valid complaint is the music, however it far from sucks. It's just not as good as it could be. Well if she's talking about the end credits music I'll agree there. That track missed the mark so badly I almost find it hard to believe.
The worst complaint is the first point in the OP. How is the map bad? You find out where you wanna go and follow the map lol, it's super straight forward. Look for areas not filled out and that's that.
Her most valid complaint is the music, however it far from sucks. It's just not as good as it could be. Well if she's talking about the end credits music I'll agree there. That track missed the mark so badly I almost find it hard to believe.
The worst complaint is the first point in the OP. How is the map bad? You find out where you wanna go and follow the map lol, it's super straight forward. Look for areas not filled out and that's that.
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Captain Toad
Banned
It's better than, "this one person said negative things about a game that I want to fail, but never played myself, so I agree with it and need to create a thread".
Captain Toad
Banned
He hasn't even played it. That's the worst part.
Neff
Member
I'm with her on the cluttered map and the lack of standout music. My biggest criticism of the game is the rigid linearity despite it going out of its way to artificially suggest the veneer of non-linearity. It's almost impossible to get lost despite the sequence breaks. The presentation was disappointingly economic for a tentpole Nintendo release, too. It's obvious the game was made with a fraction of the budget of Other M.
It's a tad overrated, but still very good.
It's a tad overrated, but still very good.