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[NightmareFarm]

Personally, I really dislike how developers focus more and more on lengthy drawn out and cinematic animations over fluidity and speed. This trend isn't just confined to games like TLOU and GOW it's permeated all throughout the fighting game genre and hack n slash genre.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Actual cutscenes that are not behind-the-back camera angles. Don't get me wrong, for some emotional story-beat moments this style of cinematography is great, but why does the entire game have to be shot this way?

 

[MetalRain]

Maybe in your face tutorials, I don't mean JRPG style where first 10-20 hours are drip feeding you a tutorial, but even shorter ones can be little tedious. Just let me do stuff and then show some tips when I screw up or want to wait for that tooltip.

However games are not just made for me and having larger player-base means games are financially viable to make, so I get it.

I think many things in modern games are quite good and some common issues are not that often fault of game design.

For actual game design issues I don't like is broken systems. Like game economy that doesn't make sense or game mechanics that encourage only one way of playing even if game is trying to offer several. But these are not really trends and everyone would fix them if they had had resources to do so.

 

[NightmareFarm]

Actual cutscenes that are not behind-the-back camera angles. Don't get me wrong, for some emotional story-beat moments this style of cinematography is great, but why does the entire game have to be shot this way?

Aren't most cutscenes not from behind-the-back angles??? I don't know much about cinematography so i'm kind of confused here.

 

[Inuteu]

see through walls shit is a plague for long time now

I never use it if I can avoid it

marking enemies too

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Aren't most cutscenes not from behind-the-back angles??? I don't know much about cinematography so i'm kind of confused here.

Maybe I described it wrong, but it seems like many games now employ a camera system for their cutscenes where it feels like there is a camera person walking behind the main characters or panning around them without any cuts. Just one single continuous shot. It's an artistic choice, but it also limits the scope of some scenes IMO.

 

[Irobot82]

Quest markers. Holding your hand the entire way, the MC telling you how to solve the puzzle.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

when you lose control of the first person camera (e.g., the game forces you to look at something).
unmemorable original music
ragdoll instead of death animations
environment doesnt affect audio (e.g., no more EAX stuff)

 

[Cornbread78]

No difficulty settings.....

 

[Rodolink]

Wasting the player's time:
with tasks that give trash rewards, with excess of quests just to fill the open world space, with unskippable videos-dialogues, or super slow progression just to make it worth the effort put making the game at the expense of the player

 

[BennyBlanco]

nothing will make me tap out of game faster than slow walk and chats. enough already.

 

[Gaiff]

Everything Naughty Dog does in their games pretty much.

 

[The_hunter]

Battlepass that expire FOMO, trying to turn games into a daily chore.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

Crawling through or sliding through wall cracks or small spaces with the camera up my ass to hide loading or to create "immersion"......overdone and needs to die a painful death.

 

[wvnative]

Terrible netflix UI's and the general lack of care given to UI's in general

Making it impossible to see when your low on health

Motherfucking loot/crafting

 

[HTK]

Design decisions to help the lowest common denominator players. For example: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II

 

[ResilientBanana]

Spelling out the story for the gamer, making the characters have forced personalities, terrible voice acting, shitty anmation.

 

[SHA]

I don't think it happens at will, just desperate for another kickass take 2 games and other major games we've been missing for the last decade, we know there's a big empty space in the gaming industry that can't be replicated with technology.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

All of them?

 

[SmokedMeat]

nothing will make me tap out of game faster than slow walk and chats. enough already.

*Gears of War left the chat*

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Yappy characters who solve puzzles for you and/or constantly make Marvel-style quips.

 

[analog_future]

Obnoxiously complex and layered skill trees.

Your character is leveling up, your weapons are leveling up, your clothing is leveling up, your vehicle and/or mount is leveling up, you can choose to level up your character in 20 different ways, and within each one of those ways there's abilities you can choose to unlock, and each of those abilities has different perks you can apply to them. Your weapons level up, but you can also add augments and attachments and customizations and upgrade the bullet type, etc.. etc.. Same goes for clothes and cars/mounts with add-ons and accessories and whatnot.

For me, it just gets way too complex to the point that I just completely lose interest in leveling, and in-turn lose interest in progressing further in the game altogether.

I think that shit needs to be reeled in and progression should be simplified and more impactful. Right now the difference between being level, say, 15 and level 20 is practically nothing, and instead you're given all of these little things I described above to make it feel like you're changing something substantial when you're really not.

 

[Guilty_AI]

"Storydriven" games with terrible stories. If you can't write for shit, don't keep adding lenghty cutscenes and conversations and just lemme kill things

 

[DeepEnigma]

Everything Naughty Dog does in their games pretty much.

Attention to detail?

Oof.

 

[Nihilum]

The open world trend. Give me set pieces and great stories, I don't care how many miles wide your world is.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Crawling through or sliding through wall cracks or small spaces with the camera up my ass to hide loading or to create "immersion"......overdone and needs to die a painful death.

Came here to post this. I played two games that did this to death back to back. Requiem and Callisto. Holy shit every 5 minutes I'm squeezing through a crack in these games.

 

[Filben]

Too much non-optional handholding like it's your very first video game ever.

Life service SYSTEMS with almost all of their implications.

MTX.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Attention to detail?

Oof.

Top notch production values? I hate those.

 

[NecrosaroIII]

Yappy characters who solve puzzles for you and/or constantly make Marvel-style quips.

This. Horizon and the Forspoken demo suck because of this.

I also don't like

Tutorials
Crafting
Microtransactions

 

[NikuNashi]

NPC's talking in your ear ALL the time. Naughty Dog / Guerilla being worst culprits.

 

[Gaiff]

Attention to detail?

Oof.

"Pretty much". They do have their strengths but I dislike almost everything they do from a gameplay perspective. There's some stuff I like such as the brutality and weight behind the combat.

 

[Evil Calvin]

The 'Destiny-type' cursor. Moving the reticle around the screen and then hold to select. Sucks!

 

[Magic Carpet]

The lack of Explosions.
Games need more wall shaking booms.
I bought a new sub this gen and I'm starting to think I don't have it plugged in.

 

[Graciaus]

The obsession with making everything open world.

 

[Xeaker]

Too much cutscenes/movielike, not enough GAMEPLAY

 

[T4keD0wN]

I hate always online, I couldnt play RDR2 campaign last 4 times i wanted to and when i played assassins creed valhalla it crashed every time i got disconnected from the internet for more than 5 seconds.

I also hate 90%+ of unreal engine 4 game because devs refuse to compile shaders properly, might aswell make your game console exclusives while they are at it and not waste time cluttering the steam store page by their emulator like running trashy games

 

[DragoonKain]

Needing multiple playthroughs to get everything. Not everyone has the time or patience to play a game multiple times. Give people the opportunity to get the most out of a game in one playthrough. Stop fapping over people grinding out hundreds of hours on your stupid game. That’s not an achievement.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Bloated runtimes. Most of these games are made for grownups and I can't imagine anyone with enough time in the day to beat some of these things. I don't want to play a single game for six months.

 

[bender]

-Risk averse,
-Graphics and presentation over mechanics
-Paint-by-the-numbers open worlds
-RPG lite elements
-Resource gathering and crafting
-Procedurally generated rogue lite level structures

 

[xrnzaaas]

Not even waiting 5 seconds to let you solve the puzzle yourself. It's happening with most AAA games, at least AA titles & indies often allow you to get stuck and figure out a solution on your own (or specifically after asking for a hint).

 

[lachesis]

Informing critical information w/o big visual support in the thick of gameplay.
I'm simple minded, so I'm really bad at listening and playing at the same time. Most of the time, I would just have to ignore... especially 1st person/3rd person shooting type deal - when I'm in the midst of gunfight.

Also horrible HUD design / UI design - and weird button mappings for different menus - plus when there are several different maps tied to different buttons. Many Falcom games of late (Trails & Ys) seems to have these types of maps (world map, regional map, etc) - why can't they just put them into one "map" section and maybe allow me to select thru?

 

[hemo memo]

Everything is open world now and it is getting ridiculous.

 

[hemo memo]

Not even waiting 5 seconds to let you solve the puzzle yourself. It's happening with most AAA games, at least AA titles & indies often allow you to get stuck and figure out a solution on your own (or specifically after asking for a hint).

Yeah it is weird. You would think in the age of the internet this will go away as it is a click away to find a solution but no. Don’t you dare get lost.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Too. Much. Stuff.

Too many games have systems, subsystems, menus and submenus for everything. And there’s just too much “optional” side stuff that‘s actually not really optional, unless you play every game like a lvl 1 Souls run. I’m playing Persona 5 at the moment and while I‘m enjoying much of it, it’s basically horror vacui: the game. Apparently it’s terrifically important that you have a wide choice of side activities to engage in, at all times. God forbid you already have a dozen things you could do in the city at any moment, you also have 2 or 3 people wanting to spend time with you every day and some new sights to see every other in-game week or so. I appreciate the creativity and effort in making the game so full of possibilities, but this also means that the game is going to last 60-100 hours no matter what, and that it’s almost impossible you’ll find the time or the will to play through it a second time. I long for the time of focused AAA games that didn’t have to dilute everything this much.

Skill trees and crafting are part of this, too. Don’t allow me to develop multiple skill trees, have me choose one at the beginning and stick with it, and balance the game so that whatever I choose I can play it with different approaches. Too many useful skills are spread evenly between skill trees, you need half of the skills to even play the game decently but it takes three times as long to achieve a balanced character. And crafting, dear Lord. Imagine if you had crafting in Doom.

 

[cireza]

Same answer as in : https://www.neogaf.com/threads/what...e-about-modern-gaming.1644611/#post-266873239

Open worlds
Fetch quests
Useless pick-ups every 2 seconds
Crafting
Skill trees
Games being long because they have to, but nobody knows why
Games not being optimized for Switch
Multiplayer focus, cloud
Updates and having to download and install games
Movies

And let me add this :
Bland, generic dungeons to unlock skills for party members. This shit is ridiculous. Why not throw at the player a generic copy-pasted dungeon for every single thing in the game ? Wanna talk to someone ? Dungeon. Wanna pick up an item ? Dungeon. Press Start at title screen ? Dungeon. Wanna change an option ? Dungeon. Wanna press a button on the controller ? Dungeon. Dungeon ? Dungeon. Wanna be my lover ? Dungeon. Well this last one might be worth it.

 

[winjer]

Quick Time events
Unskipable Cutscenes
Squeesing through passages
Lack of options for toggle ADS
Fake decisions that don't affect anything in the story
Hand holding and immediately giving hints for puzzles
Open worlds that are just baren filler for the player to waste time going from one mission to another
3D menus with long loading time
Crafting system
Stutter from shader compilation
Motion blur, chromatic aberration, film grain and other crap like this
RPG grinding mechanics or the sake of wasting the players time
Micro-transactions and NFTs

 

[cireza]

Quick Time events
Unskipable Cutscenes
Squeesing through passages
Lack of options for toggle ADS
Fake decisions that don't affect anything in the story
Hand holding and immediately giving hints for puzzles
Open worlds that are just baren filler for the player to waste time going from one mission to another
3D menus with long loading time
Crafting system
Stutter from shader compilation
Motion blur, chromatic aberration, film grain and other crap like this
RPG grinding mechanics or the sake of wasting the players time
Micro-transactions and NFTs

Great list.

Main character that is alone, but can't shut the hell up as well. Can't stand this.

I’m playing Persona 5

I actually did the same thing. I tried. But I had to give up after 20 hours, and I moved on to some other RPG that better respects my intelligence. Not that I am a genius. The game is bloated with unnecessary stuff and drags to no end. And battles are brain dead stupid. Spam weakness, group attack, repeat. It was the same in previous Persona. Honestly, these games would greatly benefit from having a "Short route" that skips all the repetitive shit.

I moved on 7th Dragon on 3DS and I am having a blast. Mainly because this is a game that offers meaningful choices in terms of characters, skills (no stupid tree) and battle strategy. Everything that is missing from Persona 5. And in terms of story, it is not great, but it does a good effort at giving you the feeling that your created characters ARE part of the story, which is a great achievement in my opinion.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Most of them have already been posted, but what about modern game's UI being the most soulless shit ever? Just a bunch of minimalistic white lines with 0 taste or style.

Spoiler: some examples

And now, the worst offender:

 

[winjer]

Main character that is alone, but can't shut the hell up as well. Can't stand this.

Yes, also this. Characters that just won't shut the f*** up.
I can understand if it's commenting on something important happening at just one moment or two.
But when its just spewing basic, obvious stuff, it just becomes obnoxious.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Waypoint.