HP_Wuvcraft
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Are you fucking kidding me
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Trump pardons former AZ Sheriff Arpaio [convicted of violating civil rights laws]
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Are you fucking kidding me
theignoramus
Member
America is over. This confirms it.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
America as we knew it was over the second Trump won the votes.
He talked about how he was popular with transgender people when talking about his ban.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
Moral of the story: don't. Be. An. Enabler.
Seriously this is how Trump is convinced he will get away with absolutely anything, forever. Because he is so used to people enabling him for his entire life.
titiklabingapat
Member
Why not pursue Arpiao at the state level?
Cause it's Arizona?
I mean their state government passed SB1070 not too long ago and the GOP challenger to one of their current GOP US Senators was on Twitter last night thanking trump for the pardon and calling Arpaio a "patriot".
TatteredHat
Member
Lol, why does your president even have the power to overturn convictions?
Sounds like something that's just ripe for abuse.
Sounds like something that's just ripe for abuse.
I think it's meant for either extreme cases, like something that was criminal but done with good intentions (think why Chelsea got her sentence commuted, or why people would want Snowden pardoned) or perhaps the system had failed the individual so they're being spared (probably most of the commuted sentences and pardons Obama doled out.) This is Trump basically being human scum and abusing the privileges he's been granted, and at best jeopardizes them for those who'd follow and have better intentions like most presidents did. At worst, it's basically a signal that any shit face can be a racist monster in this country.
Or that, perhaps, people really do have to resort to violence if they want justice. Which is NOT what we want, but what options are left when the system that was supposed to have served its purpose is completely thrown aside?
StrategyFan
Member
some dudes in the 1700s thought it was a good idea
and this happened from a president who didn't even get elected. he basically got appointed by some committee that counts in funny ways
should honestly just rip up the constitution and start over. country is a joke
madstarr12
Member
Lol, Trump voters, non-voters and 3rd party voters.....you cannot complain about this, you knew things like this were gonna happen.
It supposed to be a complicated process with a delay of 5 years after the conviction and used on very good conduct or wrongful imprisonment. Of course it seems to be another thing that ran on the honor system instead of being written down into law. Seems like most rules about the presidency work like that... Well, at least it seems like congress is trying to codify those rules one by one so they'll be hard laws by the time a more competent tyrant comes around.
Well, up until now the American people had voted in Presidents that asked "What should I do?" instead of "What can I get away with?"
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
Pretty much why I hope the Russian stuff is all true. Want to see the trump name be forever poison nobody ever wants to touch again.
Sparrowhawk
Member
I firmly believe we'll bounce back, somehow.
But you should always prepare for the worst.
acheron_xl
Member
I think the strife that climate change is going to cause will really dampen the possibility that we'll recover. I imagine if the Earth weren't catching fire, we'd probably start to balance ourselves in 50-75 years.
Some probably did think more like the latter but were hamstrung by the legistlative and judicial bodies more effectively or simply were in a much lower tech era that would minimize the potential damage.
Of course we will bounce back. But if we do, we should have higher standards than Trump and his supporters. That's the only way to really defeat their agenda.
Clinton lost, because they were able to tag a lot of shady stuff onto her. We need to prevent that from happening again.
How come "shady stuff" didn't stick to Trump? Why did people care so much when she did it?
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Those assholes don't really give a fuck. Especially his voters, Trump could shit on these fucks and they'd take it with a smile.
BoboBrazil
Member
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
They screamed over her very, very loudly.
I wish I was kidding. That's their tactic. Scream until their pig faces are beet red and control the narrative through sheer force. Hate is such a strong motivator, and we willingly allow a vast propaganda network to exploit that for the gain of a bunch of regressive lunatics.
SpaceCadetKeon
Banned
God, this and the trans ban have made me so angry that I have a headache now. Fuck this garbage, and fuck everyone who voted for it.
BrassDragon
Member
This makes me really, really worried about the Mueller investigation...
You can't flip suspects to witnesses if the guy they're protecting can offer total immunity compared to the lighter sentences the special counsel affords them.
Figured the process would offer some safeguards but turns out, POTUS really can do this on a whim. Insane.
You can't flip suspects to witnesses if the guy they're protecting can offer total immunity compared to the lighter sentences the special counsel affords them.
Figured the process would offer some safeguards but turns out, POTUS really can do this on a whim. Insane.
DongBeetle
Banned
Fuck Arpaio and fuck Trump. Nobody is doing shit to stop this
PingPongvonLaserstein
Member
I'm not sure his motivations for this particular move run all that deep, to be honest.
One of my fears is that as his base recedes ever closer to it's most extreme and disgusting core, he'll make increasingly extreme and disgusting moves to get his next hit of that sweet adulation he craves.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Mueller hasn't been fired yet.
DongBeetle
Banned
It's only a matter of time until he is and then there will be truly no salvation from this orange shit
As if we needed clearer proof, but he's going to pardon them all Flynn et al and if pardoning himself doesn't work, he'll resign and let Pence pardon him. And if you think there's no limits Trump will take executive power to, you haven't been paying attention.
Liberal white folks with conservative families seriously talk to your them. You have a hell lot of a better shot at bursting their Trump bubble than I do. Chip at it slowly don't rage in hard that probably won't work but the goal should to let them see making liberals mad is not an effective way of conducting presidential politics. If you can get them to see that, Trump's presidency withers away as there is nothing else to it. It might not work but never quit and don't halfass it....this right here is the cost of a Trump presidency. We're all paying it.
Liberal white folks with conservative families seriously talk to your them. You have a hell lot of a better shot at bursting their Trump bubble than I do. Chip at it slowly don't rage in hard that probably won't work but the goal should to let them see making liberals mad is not an effective way of conducting presidential politics. If you can get them to see that, Trump's presidency withers away as there is nothing else to it. It might not work but never quit and don't halfass it....this right here is the cost of a Trump presidency. We're all paying it.
Because human psychology can be exploited like that. Because Trump somehow represented a new start in politics whereas Clinton represented more of the old and the "shady stuff". It doesn't even matter if those allegations are true or not. Once made, they're there.
People are always better at finding bad things on the other party. And that "little bit of sexism and racism" is just the right amount for their supporters, because it rings true to them.
The only thing to bring down Trump would be a "But her emails!" times 10. And he probably hides exactly that in his tax returns.
I just realized the trans ban talk and the Arpaio pardon surfaced around the same time, right?
Chances the transgender military ban is purely because Obama commuted Chelsea's sentence? Donald is so petty it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Yeah who thought this is a good idea.
Not unless you guys reform your fundamentally broken system. We'll be back having the same arguments in a few years.
Trump is only a symptom.
Probably thought it was a good idea under the presumption that the American people would elect a respectable, morally strong, intelligent, and competent person to the highest political office, and the checks and balances would give said person the boot if they weren't.
Christ, I have no hope for this broken system. People are always talking about moving to another country if X wins, but fuck that. Just move anyways.
That's because as much as the GOP is condemning Trump over Charlottesville, they are loving all of the repeals and rollbacks he's doing, this is just one more drop in the bucket. So fuck the GOP. They are really showing their true colors.
Jawbreaker
Member
Fuck these garbage people. What a disgrace.
Mueller isn't stopping shit. No point in pinning your hopes on him.
Fox Mulder
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