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[cormack12]

THAT future game? A game coming in the future from now or future as in setting of the upcoming game? If the latter then THAT game could be Savage Starlight maybe?

I'm hoping The Punisher with Sony going big on superheroes and stuff. Leave the sci-fi stuff to the likes of Insomniac and give the more grounded ip to ND plus The Punisher. Plus the origin story feels like it fits ND's generally melodramatic games/worlds.

 

[RAIDEN1]

Whats going on with Naughty Dog is they've gone into Winter hibernation, expect them to be live and kicking in 2022!

 

[DForce]

If they release TLOU remake AND TLOU multiplayer as a separate game (who really wants more of that?) imo they have lost their touch and seem to be going the safe, boring route.

I have never, ever, heard of a more uneccesary remake than TLOU. What a waste of time and money

I want Naughty dog to be Sonys premier developer and create NEW ip. Not just work on TLOU and Uncharted stuff

The Last of Us Remake was being developed by another studio and Naughty Dog was forced to finish it.

They're likely creating a new IP right now while another team finishes the multiplayer and the Last of Us remake. There's really no reason for them sell TLOU remake with TLOU Multiplayer the multiplayer game is going to be a big stand-alone title.

 

[Sosokrates]

I really hope they complete the TLOU story. I really want a conclusion for the chracters.

I dont think it needs to be as long as TLOU2. If I were naughty dog/sony I would of started work on the PS5 Naughty Dog engine simultaneously with TLOU3 aiming for a fall 2023 release date and a 12hr campaign.

I really would of liked a a 2022 release date but I dont think that would of been possible on a new PS5 engine.

Im really curious the direction ND take with ther PS5 engine, I think they will have a nanite style system of environmental detail (it will be slightly better), I wonder if they will go for some svoggi Gi or a Raytracing solution.

 

[Roufianos]

A year and a half really isn't a long time to go quiet. Development is a lot longer these days, you can't compare their output during the PS3 gen to now.

 

[Rien]

I'm hoping The Punisher with Sony going big on superheroes and stuff. Leave the sci-fi stuff to the likes of Insomniac and give the more grounded ip to ND plus The Punisher. Plus the origin story feels like it fits ND's generally melodramatic games/worlds.

Yeah I am also not that interested in a sci-fi game from them as well.

 

[NahaNago]

They should have like three projects going on right now from the factions thing, lou remake, sci-fi game (?) and we were going through a pandemic. So I'm expecting things to be a year or 2 behind right now.

edit: oh yeah, and probably a last of us 2 next gen patch. I'm also expecting a patch for the uncharted games since they have that movie .

 

[Azurro]

We must have played different games. I didn't see any social justice bullshit you talk about, not the stupid characters.


ND should try something new next, something with a lighter tone but we will just get another Uncharted or TLOU.

EDIT: People cry that games are rushed, and then go after devs for taking their time. I'm so thankful none of you work in the industry as a project manager.

Are we talking about the same game? Wasn't Abby the eater of trenbolone sandwiches not in the game? The same Abby stronger than any man? The Abby that was somehow eating and juicing up enough during a zombie apocalypse?That Abby? Or the Ellie that was turned lesbian and acts like a man is not in the game? The bigot sandwiches weren't in the game? The persecuted trans character wasn't in the game? The game that had all the men characters either being useless, stupid or hateful, and all the "strong" characters were women? That game?

One thing is to say the sjw bs doesn't bother you, but to deny the game is a AAA progressive lgbt game is something else.

 

[Lognor]

I'm hoping The Punisher with Sony going big on superheroes and stuff. Leave the sci-fi stuff to the likes of Insomniac and give the more grounded ip to ND plus The Punisher. Plus the origin story feels like it fits ND's generally melodramatic games/worlds.

Oh God no. No more superhero games from Sony. Between spiderman, wolverine and that other game, it's enough

 

[Kerotan]

Maybe they don't want to reveal their next title until it's closer to release. And with every ps5 guaranteed to sell sony have no reason to push forward this reveal.

 

[Rien]

Oh God no. No more superhero games from Sony. Between spiderman, wolverine and that other game, it's enough

Agreed!

 

[remember_spinal]

“Yeah, that’s lovely and great Naughty Dog, but what are you doing with The Last of Us right now?”

In short, we’re working on it - we see the community comments as many of you clamor for multiplayer and want updates. For now, we’ll say that we love what the team is developing and want to give them time to build out their ambitious project, we’ll reveal more when it’s ready! To that end, we’ve been busy growing our team inside the kennel since The Last of Us Part II launched and are currently in full swing of hiring for MP-related positions (hint hint), so if you or somebody you know qualifies for anything you see on our jobs page, apply!

Celebrating The Last of Us Day 2021 || Naughty Dog

A special TLOU Day community update

www.naughtydog.com

 

[alabtrosMyster]

No. Neil Drunckmann has run the studio to the ground.

That sounds perfectly legit, all the games he was involved in crashed and yet he got promoted... Because he slept with the right people I assume?

 

[blastprocessor]

tlou remake is such a waste of time when they could potentially put that time into a new IP, ps4 remaster looks good enough

Thing is it sold so well (on PS3 and PS4) it could be probably bring in a new audience along with the series on TV and could potentially do better than TLOU2. It's still a great game.

 

[RJMacready73]

Are we talking about the same game? Wasn't Abby the eater of trenbolone sandwiches not in the game? The same Abby stronger than any man? The Abby that was somehow eating and juicing up enough during a zombie apocalypse?That Abby? Or the Ellie that was turned lesbian and acts like a man is not in the game? The bigot sandwiches weren't in the game? The persecuted trans character wasn't in the game? The game that had all the men characters either being useless, stupid or hateful, and all the "strong" characters were women? That game?

One thing is to say the sjw bs doesn't bother you, but to deny the game is a AAA progressive lgbt game is something else.

jesus wept... you do realize not every fucking game has to have muscle bound whitey mcbeefcake running around stomping on commie's?? you are aware a studio as talented and as driven as ND may want to make a game unlike any other out there with characters that they want to show and tell a story about... but because we get this one trans positive lesbian kill simulator somehow the fucking studio is now tainted? we do live in a diverse world and i for one want to see more lesbian murder fests if they come with the same quality as ND's output as for you mate maybe stick to the early 90's titles..

 

[Majormaxxx]

Celebrating The Last of Us Day 2021 || Naughty Dog

A special TLOU Day community update

www.naughtydog.com

I think the MP game they will make will be absolutely epic. Both U4 and TLOU MP were extremely fun (except TLOU had pay to win mechanics with overpowered paid weapons - but that is why they make the MP game in the first place. In short, they are making something really special for MP fans.

 

[TheGodfather07]

My best guess would be a new ip as their first ps5 project while working on the last of us part 3 to come after that.

 

[Sosokrates]

I'm hoping The Punisher with Sony going big on superheroes and stuff. Leave the sci-fi stuff to the likes of Insomniac and give the more grounded ip to ND plus The Punisher. Plus the origin story feels like it fits ND's generally melodramatic games/worlds.

Im the opposite, the punisher is to similer to what they have done before (hand to hand combat and shooting.
I mean ellie was a punisher in TLOU2.
After that ellie space sequence I was hoping they would do something like starfield but more linier and third person.

 

[Salz01]

Naughty Dog was firing on all cylinders during the PS3 era. Coincidentally when both Bruce and Amy were at the studio. UC4 and TLOU2 were decent, biggest improvement was in the graphic department. But both don’t hold up against the PS3 era games.

 

[Flutta]

Are we talking about the same game? Wasn't Abby the eater of trenbolone sandwiches not in the game? The same Abby stronger than any man? The Abby that was somehow eating and juicing up enough during a zombie apocalypse?That Abby? Or the Ellie that was turned lesbian and acts like a man is not in the game? The bigot sandwiches weren't in the game? The persecuted trans character wasn't in the game? The game that had all the men characters either being useless, stupid or hateful, and all the "strong" characters were women? That game?

One thing is to say the sjw bs doesn't bother you, but to deny the game is a AAA progressive lgbt game is something else.

 

[luca_29_bg]

In Uncharted 4 - initially, the plan was for the ending to feature Nate's son. Someone suggested to Neil - what would happen if it were a daughter instead. So he was like - why not? So we got Nate's daughter. In TLOU1 we had one gay character. Then in Left behind we also had Ellie kiss a girl. In TLOU2 this storyline and the diverse representation was expanded. The next logical step would be in U5 for them to have Nate's daughter be an interracial bisexual or non-binary (simply being a lesbian wouldn't be enough because it was already done with Ellie. So for the sake of diversity, she would have to be either bisexual - which is kind of passé and old fashioned - or non-binary - which is the thing du jour.

Why we are mocking this:

LGBT Identification Rises to 5.6% in Latest U.S. Estimate

Gallup finds 5.6% of U.S. adults identifying as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender, with the majority of them saying they are bisexual.

news.gallup.com

A whopping 5.6% of US folks identify as non-heterosexual. And yet some of the new media (shows and games) make it out as if every third person is with alternative sexuality.

This doesn't prove anything, many people lies about their sexual orientation, because homophobia is everywhere, so the % are totally not reliable, and there is still no such "equality" even in places where legal marriage is allowed. There is still a long road before humans with different sexual orientation will be treated like straight people, without ANY kind of discrimination, and until then, many, many people will continue to hide their sexual orientation!

 

[TheTurboFD]

Came in , saw poll, I knew this thread was going to be cancer from the start. Maybe they're focusing all development on 1 title rather than multiple ?

 

[Mibu no ookami]

We're in a strange transition period for the industry between generations and in the middle of a pandemic.

This is a time where they really have to maximize their margins. That's why we're seeing Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy ported to PS5. I think we'll see LOU2 Factions for PS4 and PS5 and a LOU Remake for PS5 to coincide with the HBO show (with or without the original character actors and models). I think we'll also see a new Naughty Dog game in the next couple of years. It's hard to make these games and people need to consider these are the total games they made per generation:

PS3
Uncharted
Uncharted 2
Uncharted 3
Last of Us
Last of Us: Left Behind DLC/Expansion

(4 original games and DLC)

PS4
Last of Us Remastered
Last of Us: Left Behind DLC/Expansion
Uncharted 4
Uncharted Lost Legacy
Last of Us 2

(3 original games, a remaster, and DLC)

PS5, I think we'll get the 2 ports, a remake, maybe an uncharted 1-3 port/remaster, and 2 or 3 original games with the 3rd game maybe being on the smaller side.

 

[Hezekiah]

TLOU multiplayer next, F2P GaaS MTX.

I’m hoping they announce the next IP within 6 months if it’s release. No long build up and hype trailing off.

You reckon it will be f2p?

Not sure about that given Naughty Dogs extreme production values, and the fact that it will need to really establish itself in the multiplayer space.

 

[Vaelka]

I'm hoping The Punisher with Sony going big on superheroes and stuff. Leave the sci-fi stuff to the likes of Insomniac and give the more grounded ip to ND plus The Punisher. Plus the origin story feels like it fits ND's generally melodramatic games/worlds.

Wow, Punisher?

Not only toxic masculinity overload but isn't Punisher basically like a stereotypical conservative wet dream?
That's the impression I got from the show at least like a Death Wish movie.

 

[Calling 911 Melts Beams]

theyre busy working on metroid prime 5

 

[Games of Today]

I definitely believe that we are getting a stand alone MMO style factions game with Jackson as the HUB World where players can hang out with their friends. You can leave the HUB by walking through the gates into the wasteland just like in the campaign.

And I'm willing to bet their next (PS5 Only) game will either be Savage Starlight or that Medevil Dragon fighting game where the world is ruled by women.

 

[Jaybe]

You reckon it will be f2p?

Not sure about that given Naughty Dogs extreme production values, and the fact that it will need to really establish itself in the multiplayer space.

Hmm if I were a betting man maybe 10% chance it’s free to play. i could see it with a price but they could make it free if subbed to PSPlus or PSNow. If it is priced, likely $20 like Read dead online with sales. Definitely a pack in with TLOU1 remaster in a PS5 TLOU2 directors cut, if timing all aligns.

 

[Azurro]

This doesn't prove anything, many people lies about their sexual orientation, because homophobia is everywhere, so the % are totally not reliable, and there is still no such "equality" even in places where legal marriage is allowed. There is still a long road before humans with different sexual orientation will be treated like straight people, without ANY kind of discrimination, and until then, many, many people will continue to hide their sexual orientation!

The population wouldn't grow if the percent of straight people wasn't pretty much that 95%, the human race would already be extinct if every third person was lgbtpbqqdisney+.

 

[Hobbygaming]

If they revealed something this early then people would complain, yet again, about Sony studios revealing games too early.

Truth. I didn't have an issue with PS showing games early. In fact, I think it is the better strategy you just have to deliver the goods when it's time

 

[Hobbygaming]

The next logical step would be in U5 for them to have Nate's daughter be an interracial bisexual or non-binary

 

[sainraja]

This studio has been one of the most productive studios in the business. They are by no means as bad as studios that take 5-7 years to make a game. From 2007 to 2013, they released four games in two year intervals. From 2016 to 2020, they released 3 games in 4 years. Even Uncharted which was in development hell was released in just 3 years, and they turned around and released an 8 hour Lost Legacy in just one year. TLOU 2 despite all its delays still launched roughly 2.5 years after Lost Legacy.

So why is it that 1.5 years since their last game we haven't seen anything from them? No new reveals. No TLOU remaster like they did on PS4. No Left Behind style DLC. 6 months after they launched Uncharted 4, they revealed Lost Legacy at PSX. We are now 18 months since TLOU2 and nothing. They even had that 1080p 60 fps teaser for Uncharted 4 ready in one year back at E3 2014 while they were working on Left Behind and TLOU PS4 remaster. There is a chance they might have something at the VGAs so fingers crossed for that.

Again, this is a VERY productive studio so they are held to a higher standard than say Guerrilla Games, Rockstar or 343i who produce one game every 5 years. 1.5 years is a long time for them to not reveal, let alone release anything. For example, I am very disappointed that they did not release a PS5 sku for TLOU2. Game plays amazing at 60 fps, but it wouldve been great to get the instant loading upgrades from a dedicated PS5 port. The combat encounters take almost a minute to load on the PS5 which makes replayablity a chore since the main campaign is paced so poorly. Having a dedicated PS5 port wouldve also allowed for a far higher resolution, framerate and character model upgrades they were able to include a PS4 port of TLOU. That too in just under a year despite the difficulty of porting the game from a Cell processor based engine.

Besides, what can we expect at the VGA anyway? The Last of Us remake? Factions? Both of them are likely cross gen so it's not like they will blow us away. Is Naughty Dog going to become a 1 game every 5 years studio or can they be productive like they were in the 2010s when they released 7 games in 10 years.

Well, the studio has been accused of crunch or have had their name mentioned along with new articles speaking of crunch. That is going to have an affect.

 

[sainraja]

I'd never characterize them as one of the most productive; personally. Since PS3, they've basically made the same game over and over again, in terms of gameplay design. Third person shooters with light stealth, crouch / cover mechanics, and limited platforming.

I'd say they're leaders in the industry in terms of graphics, but not productivity. They just make the same thing, and put a lot of time into art and graphics. Honestly, Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us 2 look like they're probably built using a ton of the same tech and engine work. Uncharted even has a lot of similar art design with run down, abandoned buildings overgrown in moss in half the game.

lol you can say that about any game studio that makes sequels to their popular franchises.

One of the things that ND does is expand upon their previous games in a big way which can be seen from UC1 to UC2 and then The Last of Us to Part 2. Also, what you are describing or consider to be "productive" isn't what being productive is — you're saying they are not innovating in gameplay design. Being innovative and being productive is not the same thing. Being able to produce many games is called being productive. Producing less games is not being productive in a given console lifecycle. I still disagree with you regarding ND not improving their gameplay design (UC/TLOU → UC2/4/Part 2 show otherwise) but another time or day for that conversation.

 

[Hobbygaming]

This thread and the poll won't Age well Naughty Dog are too talented and they're going to do amazing things with the PS5 hardware

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

Are we talking about the same game? Wasn't Abby the eater of trenbolone sandwiches not in the game? The same Abby stronger than any man? The Abby that was somehow eating and juicing up enough during a zombie apocalypse?That Abby? Or the Ellie that was turned lesbian and acts like a man is not in the game? The bigot sandwiches weren't in the game? The persecuted trans character wasn't in the game? The game that had all the men characters either being useless, stupid or hateful, and all the "strong" characters were women? That game?

One thing is to say the sjw bs doesn't bother you, but to deny the game is a AAA progressive lgbt game is something else.

Hahahaha just say it like this, Abby made you feel threatened because you can't understand that maybe some women like to workout and be muscular and yeah, they're stronger than your average man. And you really didn't play Left Behind where Ellie already shows signs of being lesbian, but whatever dude. Ellie was always a boyish girl, since the first damn game.

I understand, you can't stand a game that tried something different besides your manly man fighting other manly men. The game tells a completely normal story, a very good one at that. You don't like it, it's fine, but nothing on the game seems forced. If the game kept pushing that shit down our throats by touting feminist lines over and over again, I would maybe agree with you. But what can I say, I don't feel my masculinity being threatened by a videogame. I'm still the same bearded man that likes to drink neat whisky and chop wood on my spare time.


EDIT: Oh for fucks sake, I really hope ND doesn't touch Marvel franchises. I'm so fucking sick and tired of Marvel being everywhere.

 

[Sinthor]

No longer care. Loved Uncharted, was found of Jak games, loved TLOU1..... Then enter wokista takeover and ousting of Amy, Drukman takeover. ND has never been the same, to me.
Uncharted 4 was bleh of a game. It looked great and was repsonisve but it was missing something that was in the first 3 games.
Then tlou2 happened. .. Won't comment as i didn't play it as i was turned off from it with killing of Joel. One of my favorite games from ps3 and didn't play the sequel.

Uncharted will probably never have a new game with Nathan Drake so i could care less at this point.

BAM! THIS! I liked Uncharted 4 too though. I thought it was a good ending to the adventures of Nathan Drake and it had an emotional component for me in that it was kinda sad to see the end, even though the ending was a good and happy one. But yeah...TLOU2. They lost me. I actually regretted having pre-ordered it. When that "leak" scandal happened I told myself "No way....they know what sells as well and they just wouldn't DO that kind of thing to the characters in the story AND/OR the gamers." It's the only ND game that I haven't replayed and indeed I have NO DESIRE to replay it. It has nothing for me. They can call it 'subverting expectations,' but that's BS. It was a betrayal of the fans. The story was so ploddingly predictable as well once you got from the beginning because they clearly set the tone for what kind of a story it was going to be. Just horrendous. They could so EASILY have made the story GREAT, even while keeping a lot of the same story events. Tweaking events a little would have made a HUGE impact. But no...they had they had to go as woke as possible and intentionally try to destroy all the characters they did such a great job of developing in the first game. And they did it in such a ham-handed and clumsy way, I have to conclude that their success with the first game and story was a fluke. I think they even failed on the woke things they introduced. It was like they just had checkboxes. Like 'Oh lookie....we have a TRANS CHARACTER IN THE GAME NOW. LOOK AT US!' But they did it in such a trivialized manner that had absolutely zero weight or investment in the story to it. Frankly I think it was more insulting to that community than being the 'inclusive' thing they meant it to be. They could have made that interesting and integral to the story as well but it's like they didn't even try. Reminds me of how "the Last Jedi" seemed to intentionally take all the story arcs that were set up in "The Force Awakens" and just stomp them into oblivion. Or how the "Rise of Skywalker" casually removed the whole cause and reason for the Star Wars stories to begin with!


But back to Naughty Dog. It wouldn't surprise me if they've become a victim of their own wokeness. I'm betting they've been presenting projects and stories but they are so whack-a-doodle so far that they're not getting approved. Maybe I'm wrong, but the fact remains that a highly prolific and talented studio has suddenly gone completely dark. Not even RUMORS of them working on something fantastic and 'just wait till you see it!' So something way wrong. I hope I'M wrong, but I don't think I am. These fools got too arrogant and too high on their previous success and thus turned against what MADE them successful. Until they fix that, they probably won't be as big as they were.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Thanks for posting Arnold! I love Conan the Barbarian as well!!

Just don't deny the ideological bent in the media as well.

 

[Rykan]

BAM! THIS! I liked Uncharted 4 too though. I thought it was a good ending to the adventures of Nathan Drake and it had an emotional component for me in that it was kinda sad to see the end, even though the ending was a good and happy one. But yeah...TLOU2. They lost me. I actually regretted having pre-ordered it. When that "leak" scandal happened I told myself "No way....they know what sells as well and they just wouldn't DO that kind of thing to the characters in the story AND/OR the gamers." It's the only ND game that I haven't replayed and indeed I have NO DESIRE to replay it. It has nothing for me. They can call it 'subverting expectations,' but that's BS. It was a betrayal of the fans. The story was so ploddingly predictable as well once you got from the beginning because they clearly set the tone for what kind of a story it was going to be. Just horrendous. They could so EASILY have made the story GREAT, even while keeping a lot of the same story events. Tweaking events a little would have made a HUGE impact. But no...they had they had to go as woke as possible and intentionally try to destroy all the characters they did such a great job of developing in the first game. And they did it in such a ham-handed and clumsy way, I have to conclude that their success with the first game and story was a fluke. I think they even failed on the woke things they introduced. It was like they just had checkboxes. Like 'Oh lookie....we have a TRANS CHARACTER IN THE GAME NOW. LOOK AT US!' But they did it in such a trivialized manner that had absolutely zero weight or investment in the story to it. Frankly I think it was more insulting to that community than being the 'inclusive' thing they meant it to be. They could have made that interesting and integral to the story as well but it's like they didn't even try. Reminds me of how "the Last Jedi" seemed to intentionally take all the story arcs that were set up in "The Force Awakens" and just stomp them into oblivion. Or how the "Rise of Skywalker" casually removed the whole cause and reason for the Star Wars stories to begin with!


But back to Naughty Dog. It wouldn't surprise me if they've become a victim of their own wokeness. I'm betting they've been presenting projects and stories but they are so whack-a-doodle so far that they're not getting approved. Maybe I'm wrong, but the fact remains that a highly prolific and talented studio has suddenly gone completely dark. Not even RUMORS of them working on something fantastic and 'just wait till you see it!' So something way wrong. I hope I'M wrong, but I don't think I am. These fools got too arrogant and too high on their previous success and thus turned against what MADE them successful. Until they fix that, they probably won't be as big as they were.

I love this response. This is pretty much everything that is wrong with the industry and why "Fans" ruin everything. Also, this post is just filled with contradictions.

It's a "Betrayal of the fans" like, are you being serious right now? The Last of us is not this longstanding franchise that has set expectations to live up to. It had only one single instalment and the developer is well within their right to introduce other main characters for the sequel. You complain about the story being too predictable (So was the first one) and yet you complain when the developer throws a huge curve ball and it didn't follow the exact same storyline from the first game. Gamers insisting they get to play as the same exact fucking characters every game is the reason we have 29 Resident Evil games with the same characters somehow getting into several zombie apocalypses over and over again.

You complain how the game is Oh so woke and then you complain that they didn't put more emphasis on it.Have you perhaps considered that the game isn't nearly as "woke" as right wing youtubers have led you to believe?. The Anti woke crowd is so incredibly cringe with their hatred for the game that they've become far more annoying than the pro woke crowd themselves.

The complaints about this game are complete and utter nonsense. "It's woke because a woman shouldn't be the strongest character in the game, that's just not realistic" like what? It's not any less realistic than Joel, a single person, being able to beat up entire groups of people on his own either. It reminds me of the dumb complaints about Nadine in Uncharted 4 from the anti woke crowd.

"A woman shouldn't be able to defeat Nate in hand to hand combat" Oh right, the leader of a private military group beating Nate in hand to hand combat is "Unrealistic" in a game in which a treasure hunter and his elderly friend literally kill and take out an entire highly trained private/military army. Ofcourse these people never bring up the fact that Nate defeats several people twice his size in hand to hand combat in UC3 either. Because then it's "just a game" right?

 

[Razvedka]

I'm hoping The Punisher with Sony going big on superheroes and stuff. Leave the sci-fi stuff to the likes of Insomniac and give the more grounded ip to ND plus The Punisher. Plus the origin story feels like it fits ND's generally melodramatic games/worlds.

I don't know that I want ND touching the Punisher IP. I'd want a game revolving around him to stay true to the character first and foremost.

There's no need for anything "extra" there, Punisher is complex and controversial enough as is.

He lives in a freakish world of people with crazy powers, half of whom are insanely destructive and never get put away for good. Despite all the super do gooders regular crime seems just as prevalent as ever on top of everything else. However his methods are the definition of extreme and unflinchingly so.

All incarnations of him to me are like a walking rorschach test. I've heard it said repeatedly by marvel that you're not supposed to root for him or think he's "right"- but to me that's either disconnected or disingenuous. He's at his best when you ultimately agree with him but feel uncomfortable, or don't know what to feel/think at all. A journey where the villain got what was coming to him but you've lost yourself along the way.

 

[Lupin25]

BAM! THIS! I liked Uncharted 4 too though. I thought it was a good ending to the adventures of Nathan Drake and it had an emotional component for me in that it was kinda sad to see the end, even though the ending was a good and happy one. But yeah...TLOU2. They lost me. I actually regretted having pre-ordered it. When that "leak" scandal happened I told myself "No way....they know what sells as well and they just wouldn't DO that kind of thing to the characters in the story AND/OR the gamers." It's the only ND game that I haven't replayed and indeed I have NO DESIRE to replay it. It has nothing for me. They can call it 'subverting expectations,' but that's BS. It was a betrayal of the fans. The story was so ploddingly predictable as well once you got from the beginning because they clearly set the tone for what kind of a story it was going to be. Just horrendous. They could so EASILY have made the story GREAT, even while keeping a lot of the same story events. Tweaking events a little would have made a HUGE impact. But no...they had they had to go as woke as possible and intentionally try to destroy all the characters they did such a great job of developing in the first game. And they did it in such a ham-handed and clumsy way, I have to conclude that their success with the first game and story was a fluke. I think they even failed on the woke things they introduced. It was like they just had checkboxes. Like 'Oh lookie....we have a TRANS CHARACTER IN THE GAME NOW. LOOK AT US!' But they did it in such a trivialized manner that had absolutely zero weight or investment in the story to it. Frankly I think it was more insulting to that community than being the 'inclusive' thing they meant it to be. They could have made that interesting and integral to the story as well but it's like they didn't even try. Reminds me of how "the Last Jedi" seemed to intentionally take all the story arcs that were set up in "The Force Awakens" and just stomp them into oblivion. Or how the "Rise of Skywalker" casually removed the whole cause and reason for the Star Wars stories to begin with!


But back to Naughty Dog. It wouldn't surprise me if they've become a victim of their own wokeness. I'm betting they've been presenting projects and stories but they are so whack-a-doodle so far that they're not getting approved. Maybe I'm wrong, but the fact remains that a highly prolific and talented studio has suddenly gone completely dark. Not even RUMORS of them working on something fantastic and 'just wait till you see it!' So something way wrong. I hope I'M wrong, but I don't think I am. These fools got too arrogant and too high on their previous success and thus turned against what MADE them successful. Until they fix that, they probably won't be as big as they were.

???

 

[Halo is Back]

They just released a game last year. Fucing chill out man

 

[T0minator]

Naughty Dog was firing on all cylinders during the PS3 era. Coincidentally when both Bruce and Amy were at the studio. UC4 and TLOU2 were decent, biggest improvement was in the graphic department. But both don’t hold up against the PS3 era games.

Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us 2 are alot better than decent. ....alot better

 

[RJMacready73]

BAM! THIS! I liked Uncharted 4 too though. I thought it was a good ending to the adventures of Nathan Drake and it had an emotional component for me in that it was kinda sad to see the end, even though the ending was a good and happy one. But yeah...TLOU2. They lost me. I actually regretted having pre-ordered it. When that "leak" scandal happened I told myself "No way....they know what sells as well and they just wouldn't DO that kind of thing to the characters in the story AND/OR the gamers." It's the only ND game that I haven't replayed and indeed I have NO DESIRE to replay it. It has nothing for me. They can call it 'subverting expectations,' but that's BS. It was a betrayal of the fans. The story was so ploddingly predictable as well once you got from the beginning because they clearly set the tone for what kind of a story it was going to be. Just horrendous. They could so EASILY have made the story GREAT, even while keeping a lot of the same story events. Tweaking events a little would have made a HUGE impact. But no...they had they had to go as woke as possible and intentionally try to destroy all the characters they did such a great job of developing in the first game. And they did it in such a ham-handed and clumsy way, I have to conclude that their success with the first game and story was a fluke. I think they even failed on the woke things they introduced. It was like they just had checkboxes. Like 'Oh lookie....we have a TRANS CHARACTER IN THE GAME NOW. LOOK AT US!' But they did it in such a trivialized manner that had absolutely zero weight or investment in the story to it. Frankly I think it was more insulting to that community than being the 'inclusive' thing they meant it to be. They could have made that interesting and integral to the story as well but it's like they didn't even try. Reminds me of how "the Last Jedi" seemed to intentionally take all the story arcs that were set up in "The Force Awakens" and just stomp them into oblivion. Or how the "Rise of Skywalker" casually removed the whole cause and reason for the Star Wars stories to begin with!


But back to Naughty Dog. It wouldn't surprise me if they've become a victim of their own wokeness. I'm betting they've been presenting projects and stories but they are so whack-a-doodle so far that they're not getting approved. Maybe I'm wrong, but the fact remains that a highly prolific and talented studio has suddenly gone completely dark. Not even RUMORS of them working on something fantastic and 'just wait till you see it!' So something way wrong. I hope I'M wrong, but I don't think I am. These fools got too arrogant and too high on their previous success and thus turned against what MADE them successful. Until they fix that, they probably won't be as big as they were.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

From the last 10 years:

2011- Uncharted 3
2013 - The Last of Us (new IP)
2014 - The Last of Us: Left Behind
2014 - The Last of Us (PS4 Remaster)
2016 - Uncharted 4
2017 - Uncharted The Lost Legacy (i still don't get how they managed a game almost as big as the 1st Uncharted in a year and half but okay...this was fast as hell)
2020 - The Last of Us 2 - Out less than 3 years after their latest game. One of the most ambitious games ever for Sony.
2022 - Uncharted Legacy of Thieves Collection (supposedly they are working on the PS5 version only)

We also have TLOU remake, Factions and are working on a new IP. The remake and factions are probably releasing next year to coincide with the TV show.

Sounds to me nothing happened to them? They have 3 or 4 undergoing projects, That's more than all Sony studios.
They are one of Sony's biggest studios of the past 10 years and that's not changing soon.

 

[Azurro]

Hahahaha just say it like this, Abby made you feel threatened because you can't understand that maybe some women like to workout and be muscular and yeah, they're stronger than your average man. And you really didn't play Left Behind where Ellie already shows signs of being lesbian, but whatever dude. Ellie was always a boyish girl, since the first damn game.

I understand, you can't stand a game that tried something different besides your manly man fighting other manly men. The game tells a completely normal story, a very good one at that. You don't like it, it's fine, but nothing on the game seems forced. If the game kept pushing that shit down our throats by touting feminist lines over and over again, I would maybe agree with you. But what can I say, I don't feel my masculinity being threatened by a videogame. I'm still the same bearded man that likes to drink neat whisky and chop wood on my spare time.


EDIT: Oh for fucks sake, I really hope ND doesn't touch Marvel franchises. I'm so fucking sick and tired of Marvel being everywhere.

Oh please, it's not about "you feel threatened because toxic masculinity", the character of Abby offends me because of the stupidity of it, since I actually work out. I have seen very strong men and women in the gym and I'm sorry, but the very premise of Abby is simply not possible. The reality is that if both a man and a woman work out, especially strength training, then that woman will never be as strong as that man, simple biology. Then you look at her and think, ok so she must be eating 5 meals a day and doing steroids, because a woman doesn't get to her size without help. That would be a liiiiiitle in short supply in a zombie apocalypse. Yet, she is there, pushing that idea down our throats because hey, who cares about realism in a realistic game?

Therefore, every time I see the character, I can only ever see the motivation behind it. I can see the director going "look at this character! I'm soooooo progressive! Take this patriarchy!!" while stroking it to his own progressive genious. It's not, it's childish and another idea being pushed by the woke cult.

 

[Javthusiast]

Hyped days are over for them. Even most PS fans care more on what insomniac or Cory barloq will introduce next. Nobody cares on Abby’s next adventure….

Factually wrong.

 

[Shubh_C63]

I'm confused, is it normal for ND to reveal anything at VGAs because you would think Sony would reserve (and cherish) ND spot for PSX/Direct events.

 

[DForce]

Looks like all Naughty Dog threads turn into the Last of Us Part II therapy session. The same people show up to rant about the game.


The Last of Us Part II wasn't for the emotionally weak.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

The Last of Us Part II wasn't for the emotionally weak.

In every way. I'm replaying it again...that "Descent" level man. Abby's Day 2 is brilliant from a level design point of view but that damn hotel is not for the weak of heart, fuck this.

 

[VulcanRaven]

They might releveal the multiplayer TLOU game. I think they are making a new IP and TLOU3 is in very early development. Maybe some some other studio is remaking the first game so they can release something with the HBO series.

Can't believe anyone still gives a flying F about TLOU2 multiplayer.

It will probably be a new game.