OrangeAtlas
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In their defense it's a reference to the book, but yeah it does come off looking overtly ambitious.
$38 million for a budget is shocking. I didn't even know you COULD make a big-studio animated film for that much.
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In their defense it's a reference to the book, but yeah it does come off looking overtly ambitious.
$38 million for a budget is shocking. I didn't even know you COULD make a big-studio animated film for that much.
Lord Frieza
Member
Obviously, we'll have to wait until next week to get a better look, but where do you think this puts WW on track for total Worldwide gross?
You think Thor is going to break 1b?
You think Thor is going to break 1b?
Obliterator
Member
Looks like $600 is probably the floor for it depending on if legs are solid
$600-650M for now. $700M is unlikely. Under $550M is also unlikely (moreso than $700M).
Lord Frieza
Member
Good, good. I'll stay hoping that it manages to squeaked by 700M by sheer force, but I am happy with that.
Obliterator
Member
Yeah I'd imagine DC / WB will be happy with that number as well with a $150 budget. As long as it does at least $600 I think everyone involved will consider it a win coupled with that critic and audience reception.
Fancyarcher
Member
Good for WW.
They outsourced it to Canada, and other non U.S. companies. Captain Underpants was actually the first in an experiment by Dreamworks in order to attempt to keep budgets down, by doing films outside of the states.
I think it would have better had Fox had confidence in reviews. They held them out till Wednesday, showing they thought they were gonna be bad.
In their defense it's a reference to the book, but yeah it does come off looking overtly ambitious.
$38 million for a budget is shocking. I didn't even know you COULD make a big-studio animated film for that much.
They outsourced it to Canada, and other non U.S. companies. Captain Underpants was actually the first in an experiment by Dreamworks in order to attempt to keep budgets down, by doing films outside of the states.
I think it would have better had Fox had confidence in reviews. They held them out till Wednesday, showing they thought they were gonna be bad.
broncobuster
Banned
Future Foundation
Member
Gotham City Sirens are getting that megapush reeeeally soon.
Not by average rating.
Obliterator
Member
I'll give DC this, if they really do push forward with Sirens and Batgirl they aren't shying away from women led films and that's pretty fucking sweet to see.
TDK will always be the average rating king.
BlackNMild2k1
Member
Honestly, I would just be happy with Thor being the best Thor & Hulk movie by a country mile and one of if not the most exciting MCU movie to date
if it could do GotG2 numbers, that would be awesome, but I wouldn't stake anything on $1B, regardless of how hyped I personally am to watch it.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
2= 1 billion +
3= 800 million +
4= 1 billion +
Honestly unless it just fell out of the top 10 today it won't just die.
They set up 6 to potentially be bigger so if anything they will just be more careful with it when they get to it.
Lord Frieza
Member
Well, I mean, one of these is a pretty easy bar to go over. One these is not.
At this rate it may be for a long time to probably forever, that one was just lightning in a bottle as it's tough for movies to get past an 8.5 average rating on that site anyways, definitely for superhero movies.
Legs will likely be better than average for Wonder Woman, but I think you are in the airborne stage of yourpig roast$400M prediction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWvevkE0kAI
Hahahahahaha.
Yeah, I got that reference.
Rest assured I will be chanting "It's still good. It's still good." up until sometime late Thursday evening.
CaviarMeths
Member
Probably not the best example. After his toxic behavior on Fant4stic, he got booted from Star Wars and his career is basically over now. He won't be working with a major studio any time soon. Dude's been blacklisted.
But yeah there's no shortage of white men who can only seem to fail upwards, both directors and actors.
Didn't he turn down RDJ Holmes3 to do King Arthur?
Roland_Gunner
Member
Trank's trying to get that Al Capone movie going. Fonzo may fall through but the producers are legit and Tom Hardy signed on to play the lead. Thats miles away from being blacklisted.
CaviarMeths
Member
Blacklisted from a major studio. Fonzo, if it ever gets made, will have a budget smaller than Chronicle. He's not recovering from Fant4stic.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Pirates made half a billion in two weeks. It's not going anywhere though will likely see budget drop again.
You know what should die? People's assertions that x, y and z are dead in every box office thread as seen over the past three years. This obsession to have films you're not forced to see die is unhealthy.
You know what should die? People's assertions that x, y and z are dead in every box office thread as seen over the past three years. This obsession to have films you're not forced to see die is unhealthy.
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
Worth noting that Wonder Woman's DOM-FOR division for its opening weekend estimate is 45-55, so total run guessing as Dom x 2 will likely be accurate enough.
also, Josh Trank's story is actually somewhat tragic in my opinion, because he's clearly quite able to do visual storytelling, and I think his version would have paid off story wise. Not to excuse behavior, but I'll take interesting over safe & boring.
also, Josh Trank's story is actually somewhat tragic in my opinion, because he's clearly quite able to do visual storytelling, and I think his version would have paid off story wise. Not to excuse behavior, but I'll take interesting over safe & boring.
With the release of Wonder Woman, I thought it would be a good time to revisit my Superhero charts, plotting Worldwide gross vs Production budget.
Previous versions of this chart focused on Post-Iron Man 1 releases, but I have decided to expand the chart to cover all Marvel/DC superhero films released from 2000 to present. Going back further than that becomes less informative due to poor international tracking and a lack of big films outside of Batman and Superman.
To start with, here's the full chart:
Worldwide Gross (minus China) vs Production Budget for Marvel/DC Superhero films released between 2000 and Present.
Notes:
- Since the Chinese box office yields a much smaller percentage take for Hollywood studios (25% vs over 50% domestic, and an average of 40% overseas), and since many films never saw release in China, all of these figures are Worldwide - China. There is still the issue of fluctuating exchange rates, but this at least gives us less skew in modern films (which regularly hit $100M+ in China) vs old films and things like Deadpool/Suicide Squad.
- I am only including films with production budgets of at least $50M. Lower budget films typically have limited overseas releases, and/or a less extensive domestic marketing campaign.
- Logan, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Wonder Woman are still in release, and have had final grosses estimated for this chart. Logan released in Japan this weekend, but is pretty much done in every other territory. As such, my estimate should be accurate within $2-3M. GotG2 is mostly done overseas, but is still making decent money domestically. As such, I'd give my estimate a +/- $10M. Wonder Woman was more of a guess. I assumed $625M WW, with $75M in China to get the number you see. I'd put a +/- $50M on that.
This is the 18th of movie releases since X-Men helped kickstart the superhero genre. As such, I thought that it would be interesting to break the large chart above into smaller groupings by release year. If we use 00-05, 07-11, and 12-17, we get comparable 6 year spans. More below:
Superhero films released between 2000 and 2005
The first span covers the early days of the Superhero revival, including some early sequels in for the three films that lead the revival (Blade, X-Men, and Spider-Man).
Raimi Spider-Man is head and shoulders above everything else. Batman Begins undoes some of the bad will from the Schumacher days. X-Men is successful, and X2 is met with a favourable upswing. Blade fizzles out. Fantastic Four is surprisingly strong, while Hulk misses. Catwoman delivers the largest bomb the genre has faced in the new millennium (and is the only film to fail and hit that 1x Production budget mark).
Superhero films released between 2006 and 2011
This period's most important films were obviously The Dark Knight and Iron Man:
- TDK put Batman back on top, and delivered the most acclaimed superhero film to date. It was just the fourth film in history to hit a $1B gross WW, was the second film in history to crack $500M domestic, and set speed records for pretty much every box office measurement.
- Iron Man kicked off the MCU, which would go on to become the most successful film franchise in history over the course of the next decade. Iron Man also delivered an A-Tier superhero gross (domestically) to what was considered a B-tier property at best. This was the start of Marvel Studios proving that marketing and consistency were more important than well worn IP.
Aside from Iron Man, this period only lays the foundation for the MCU (to mixed results if we are looking at return on investment prior to the Avengers). By the end of 2011 we had people on these forums predicting the decline of the superhero genre due to audience fatigue after Thor and Cap failed to replicate the success of Iron Man.
Before reaching super hero fatigue (tm), foreign audiences ate up the conclusion of Raimi's Spider-man trilogy, while passing on both the Hulk (a second time) and Watchmen. X-Men First Class paid for Fox's treatment of the franchise in the earlier years of this period, and Green Lantern bombed so hard that WB refrained from releasing anything unrelated to Batman/Superman until this past year. Green Lantern himself is stuck waiting at least a decade for another shot at success.
You'll notice that there was a sizable bump to the average gross of films in this period, with only Watchmen failing to hit $200M. Budgets also expanded to match. Outside of TDK and Spider-Man, Superhero films still find Top-tier international blockbuster status elusive.
Superhero films released between 2012 and 2017
The declaration of Superhero Fatigue was premature. Avengers in 2012 became the third highest grossing film of all time worldwide (still fifth place 5 years later), grossing over $1.5B. With China thrown in, Iron Man and crew now hold the top 4 worldwide Superhero grosses (though TDK slips into #4 with China removed).
Superhero films went from rarely hitting $300M internationally to passing that with almost every major release. Marvel Studios upped their production to the current pace of 3 films a year, and WB established their take on a shared cinematic universe. The X-Franchise saw a revival in interest (thanks in part to the return of some original actors) and Fox's attempts at R-Rated superheroes were met with big success. Sony on the other hand was not as luck, failing to land their Spider-Man reboot after Raimi left the franchise. That said, other than a relatively cheap Ghost Rider sequel that hit before The Avengers, the only real failure from this era was 2015's Fantastic Four. The Lego Batman also underperformed overseas.
Average worldwide grosses are up over $200M per film without China in this era. If you added in China, the difference would be closer to $300M. At the same time, budgets haven't really gone up all that much, so the average film is seeing a much better return (partially offset by the collapse of the home video market).
We still have 3 superhero films to release in 2017, but I don't see any of them missing $600M.
Previous versions of this chart focused on Post-Iron Man 1 releases, but I have decided to expand the chart to cover all Marvel/DC superhero films released from 2000 to present. Going back further than that becomes less informative due to poor international tracking and a lack of big films outside of Batman and Superman.
To start with, here's the full chart:
Worldwide Gross (minus China) vs Production Budget for Marvel/DC Superhero films released between 2000 and Present.
Code:
Title Worldwide minus China Reported Budget Gross/Budget Ratio
1 Avengers 1434 220 6.52x
2 Avengers: Age of Ultron 1165 265 4.40x
3 Iron Man 3 1094 200 5.47x
4 The Dark Knight Rises 1032 230 4.49x
5 The Dark Knight 1005 185 5.43x
6 Captain America: Civil War 962 250 3.85x
7 Spider-Man 3 873 258 3.38x
8 Spider-Man 817 139 5.88x
9 Deadpool 783 58 13.50x
10 Spider-Man 2 778 200 3.89x
11 Batman v Superman 777 250 3.11x
12 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2^ 750 200 3.75x
13 Suicide Squad 746 175 4.26x
14 Amazing Spider-Man 709 230 3.08x
15 Guardians of the Galaxy 677 195 3.47x
16 X-Men: Days of Future Past 632 200 3.16x
17 Iron Man 2 616 200 3.08x
18 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 615 290 2.12x
19 Man of Steel 605 225 2.69x
20 Captain America: The Winter Soldier 598 170 3.52x
21 Thor: The Dark World 589 170 3.46x
22 Big Hero 6 574 165 3.48x
23 Iron Man 570 150 3.80x
24 Doctor Strange 568 165 3.44x
25 Wonder Woman^ 550 150 3.67x
26 Logan^ 512 97 5.28x
27 X-Men: The Last Stand 457 210 2.18x
28 Thor 449 150 2.99x
29 X-Men: Apocalypse 420 178 2.36x
30 Ant-Man 414 130 3.18x
31 X2: X-Men United 407 110 3.70x
32 Superman Returns 383 270 1.42x
33 The Wolverine 374 120 3.12x
34 X-Men Origins: Wolverine 373 150 2.49x
35 Batman Begins 373 150 2.49x
36 Captain America: The First Avenger 371 140 2.65x
37 X-men: First Class 354 150 2.36x
38 Fantastic Four (2005) 328 100 3.28x
39 Lego Batman Movie 300 80 3.75x
40 X-Men 296 75 3.95x
41 Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer 289 130 2.22x
42 The Incredible Hulk 254 150 1.69x
43 Hulk 244 137 1.78x
44 Ghost Rider 225 110 2.05x
45 Green Lantern 220 200 1.10x
46 Watchmen 185 130 1.42x
47 Daredevil 179 78 2.29x
48 Fantastic Four (2015) 168 120 1.40x
49 Blade II 155 54 2.87x
50 Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance 133 57 2.33x
51 Blade Trinity 129 65 1.98x
52 Catwoman 82 100 0.82x
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AVERAGE 531 161 3.35x
^Estimated Gross. Film still in releaseNotes:
- Since the Chinese box office yields a much smaller percentage take for Hollywood studios (25% vs over 50% domestic, and an average of 40% overseas), and since many films never saw release in China, all of these figures are Worldwide - China. There is still the issue of fluctuating exchange rates, but this at least gives us less skew in modern films (which regularly hit $100M+ in China) vs old films and things like Deadpool/Suicide Squad.
- I am only including films with production budgets of at least $50M. Lower budget films typically have limited overseas releases, and/or a less extensive domestic marketing campaign.
- Logan, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Wonder Woman are still in release, and have had final grosses estimated for this chart. Logan released in Japan this weekend, but is pretty much done in every other territory. As such, my estimate should be accurate within $2-3M. GotG2 is mostly done overseas, but is still making decent money domestically. As such, I'd give my estimate a +/- $10M. Wonder Woman was more of a guess. I assumed $625M WW, with $75M in China to get the number you see. I'd put a +/- $50M on that.
This is the 18th of movie releases since X-Men helped kickstart the superhero genre. As such, I thought that it would be interesting to break the large chart above into smaller groupings by release year. If we use 00-05, 07-11, and 12-17, we get comparable 6 year spans. More below:
Superhero films released between 2000 and 2005
The first span covers the early days of the Superhero revival, including some early sequels in for the three films that lead the revival (Blade, X-Men, and Spider-Man).
Code:
Title Worldwide minus China Reported Budget Gross/Budget Ratio
1 Spider-Man 817 139 5.88x
2 Spider-Man 2 778 200 3.89x
3 X2: X-Men United 407 110 3.70x
4 Batman Begins 373 150 2.49x
5 Fantastic Four (2005) 328 100 3.28x
6 X-Men 296 75 3.95x
7 Hulk 244 137 1.78x
8 Daredevil 179 78 2.29x
9 Blade II 155 54 2.87x
10 Blade Trinity 129 65 1.98x
11 Catwoman 82 100 0.82x
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
AVERAGE 344 110 2.99xRaimi Spider-Man is head and shoulders above everything else. Batman Begins undoes some of the bad will from the Schumacher days. X-Men is successful, and X2 is met with a favourable upswing. Blade fizzles out. Fantastic Four is surprisingly strong, while Hulk misses. Catwoman delivers the largest bomb the genre has faced in the new millennium (and is the only film to fail and hit that 1x Production budget mark).
Superhero films released between 2006 and 2011
Code:
Title Worldwide minus China Reported Budget Gross/Budget Ratio
1 The Dark Knight 1005 185 5.43x
2 Spider-Man 3 873 258 3.38x
3 Iron Man 2 616 200 3.08x
4 Iron Man 570 150 3.80x
5 X-Men: The Last Stand 457 210 2.18x
6 Thor 449 150 2.99x
7 Superman Returns 383 270 1.42x
8 X-Men Origins: Wolverine 373 150 2.49x
9 Captain America: The First Avenger 371 140 2.65x
10 X-men: First Class 354 150 2.36x
11 Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer 289 130 2.22x
12 The Incredible Hulk 254 150 1.69x
13 Ghost Rider 225 110 2.05x
14 Green Lantern 220 200 1.10x
15 Watchmen 185 130 1.42x
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
AVERAGE 442 172 2.55xThis period's most important films were obviously The Dark Knight and Iron Man:
- TDK put Batman back on top, and delivered the most acclaimed superhero film to date. It was just the fourth film in history to hit a $1B gross WW, was the second film in history to crack $500M domestic, and set speed records for pretty much every box office measurement.
- Iron Man kicked off the MCU, which would go on to become the most successful film franchise in history over the course of the next decade. Iron Man also delivered an A-Tier superhero gross (domestically) to what was considered a B-tier property at best. This was the start of Marvel Studios proving that marketing and consistency were more important than well worn IP.
Aside from Iron Man, this period only lays the foundation for the MCU (to mixed results if we are looking at return on investment prior to the Avengers). By the end of 2011 we had people on these forums predicting the decline of the superhero genre due to audience fatigue after Thor and Cap failed to replicate the success of Iron Man.
Before reaching super hero fatigue (tm), foreign audiences ate up the conclusion of Raimi's Spider-man trilogy, while passing on both the Hulk (a second time) and Watchmen. X-Men First Class paid for Fox's treatment of the franchise in the earlier years of this period, and Green Lantern bombed so hard that WB refrained from releasing anything unrelated to Batman/Superman until this past year. Green Lantern himself is stuck waiting at least a decade for another shot at success.
You'll notice that there was a sizable bump to the average gross of films in this period, with only Watchmen failing to hit $200M. Budgets also expanded to match. Outside of TDK and Spider-Man, Superhero films still find Top-tier international blockbuster status elusive.
Superhero films released between 2012 and 2017
Code:
Title Worldwide minus China Reported Budget Gross/Budget Ratio
1 Avengers 1434 220 6.52x
2 Avengers: Age of Ultron 1165 265 4.40x
3 Iron Man 3 1094 200 5.47x
4 The Dark Knight Rises 1032 230 4.49x
5 Captain America: Civil War 962 250 3.85x
6 Deadpool 783 58 13.50x
7 Batman v Superman 777 250 3.11x
8 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2^ 750 200 3.75x
9 Suicide Squad 746 175 4.26x
10 Amazing Spider-Man 709 230 3.08x
11 Guardians of the Galaxy 677 195 3.47x
12 X-Men: Days of Future Past 632 200 3.16x
13 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 615 290 2.12x
14 Man of Steel 605 225 2.69x
15 Captain America: The Winter Soldier 598 170 3.52x
16 Thor: The Dark World 589 170 3.46x
17 Big Hero 6 574 165 3.48x
18 Doctor Strange 568 165 3.44x
19 Wonder Woman^ 550 150 3.67x
20 Logan^ 512 97 5.28x
21 X-Men: Apocalypse 420 178 2.36x
22 Ant-Man 414 130 3.18x
23 The Wolverine 374 120 3.12x
24 Lego Batman Movie 300 80 3.75x
25 Fantastic Four (2015) 168 120 1.40x
26 Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance 133 57 2.33x
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
AVERAGE 661 177 3.96xThe declaration of Superhero Fatigue was premature. Avengers in 2012 became the third highest grossing film of all time worldwide (still fifth place 5 years later), grossing over $1.5B. With China thrown in, Iron Man and crew now hold the top 4 worldwide Superhero grosses (though TDK slips into #4 with China removed).
Superhero films went from rarely hitting $300M internationally to passing that with almost every major release. Marvel Studios upped their production to the current pace of 3 films a year, and WB established their take on a shared cinematic universe. The X-Franchise saw a revival in interest (thanks in part to the return of some original actors) and Fox's attempts at R-Rated superheroes were met with big success. Sony on the other hand was not as luck, failing to land their Spider-Man reboot after Raimi left the franchise. That said, other than a relatively cheap Ghost Rider sequel that hit before The Avengers, the only real failure from this era was 2015's Fantastic Four. The Lego Batman also underperformed overseas.
Average worldwide grosses are up over $200M per film without China in this era. If you added in China, the difference would be closer to $300M. At the same time, budgets haven't really gone up all that much, so the average film is seeing a much better return (partially offset by the collapse of the home video market).
We still have 3 superhero films to release in 2017, but I don't see any of them missing $600M.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
I decided to look up how the Sunday drops of the top 5 looked for Sundays where Game 2 occurred and compared that to how the game actually went, to see if my proclamation that WW should increase from actuals was premature:
*Game 2 did not occur on a Sunday, and the only other game this year that did was on Father's Day, making any comparisons moot.
**Game 2 also did not take place on Sunday, but Game 3 did, so the data from that is included here.
***The drop here is heavily skewed by The Hangover, which had a -12.4% hold. If we exclude it, the average drop is -32.85%
*****The Sopranos finale aired this Sunday as well, scoring 11.9M viewers.
The data suggests about what you would expect; games that stay close throughout tend to impact the box office more severely while OT is the worst thing that can happen (2013 is the exception, because I guess reality just can't be too nice). The good news is that Wonder Woman is easily the biggest opener that has gone against Game 2 (or 3, in the case of 2011) and seems to have great word of mouth, a combo that often leads to very strong Sunday drops. Lost in the data above is that the biggest hits occur to films that skew male, so since Wonder Woman's audience has a slight female majority, it won't be as impacted by basketball anyway. Still, if you want to see a sizable increase from estimates, you might want to hope for a blowout tonight.
Code:
[U]Year[/U] [U]Quarterly Score[/U] [U]TV Ratings[/U] [U]Average Drop[/U]
2016 21-19, 44-52, 62-82, 77-110 9.8/17(17.49M) -22.04%
2015 20-20, 47-45, 62-59, 87-87, OT: 95-93 10.8/19(19.17M) -32.28%
2014 19-26, 43-43, 77-78, 98-96 9.0/15(15.13M) -25.44%
2013 22-22, 45-50, 65-75, 84-103 8.5/15(14.57M) -34.20%
2012*
2011** 28-28, 51-51, 71-75, 95-93 9.1/15(15.34M) -31.96%
2010 29-22, 54-48, 72-72, 103-94 9.2/15(15.72M) -28.30%
2009 15-15, 35-40, 65-63, 88-88, OT: 96-101 8.2/14(14.06M) -28.76%***
2008 22-20, 42-54, 61-83, 102-108 8.5/15(13.50M) -28.36%
2007 17-28, 33-58, 62-89, 92-103 5.6/10(8.55M) -30.94%******Game 2 also did not take place on Sunday, but Game 3 did, so the data from that is included here.
***The drop here is heavily skewed by The Hangover, which had a -12.4% hold. If we exclude it, the average drop is -32.85%
*****The Sopranos finale aired this Sunday as well, scoring 11.9M viewers.
The data suggests about what you would expect; games that stay close throughout tend to impact the box office more severely while OT is the worst thing that can happen (2013 is the exception, because I guess reality just can't be too nice). The good news is that Wonder Woman is easily the biggest opener that has gone against Game 2 (or 3, in the case of 2011) and seems to have great word of mouth, a combo that often leads to very strong Sunday drops. Lost in the data above is that the biggest hits occur to films that skew male, so since Wonder Woman's audience has a slight female majority, it won't be as impacted by basketball anyway. Still, if you want to see a sizable increase from estimates, you might want to hope for a blowout tonight.
BronsonLee
Member
who cares about football
Exactly what an Eagles fan would post.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Preliminary ratings and viewership were about on par with the prelim ratings last year for Game 1, so so far, there doesn't seem to be any fatigue.
GabeTheGrouch76
Member
Worth pointing out, however, that only one-fifth of its gross is from the US market ($115M). Overseas markets ($386M) are doing all of the heavy lifting; without it, the film's gross wouldn't even be reaching its production budget ($230M), let alone breaking even. Pirates as a franchise is getting hit by the same issue Transformers is facing now: the film will need to rely entirely on outside grosses for profit, because the films are now seeing disappointing domestic returns.
Ninja Scooter
Member
SkyMasterson
Member
I mean, that's not very good. A movie like Pirates is expected to make a shit ton in the first few weeks, not what is under expectations.
Domestically alone, it's going to make around 90 million less than Stranger Tides did and that was considering a disappointment. The foreign box office obviously made up for that.
OrangeAtlas
Member
We don't deserve kswiston and Biggest-Geek-Ever.
I adore Chronicle and was pretty excited for some of the projects for the some of the projects he was attached to following its success (Venom and Shadow of the Colossus were floated around if I recall. Fant4stic has some elements of greatness in it that I'd love to see him expanded on, but that pre-release tweet was all on him and is about as firm a public death sentence as one can have.
I adore Chronicle and was pretty excited for some of the projects for the some of the projects he was attached to following its success (Venom and Shadow of the Colossus were floated around if I recall. Fant4stic has some elements of greatness in it that I'd love to see him expanded on, but that pre-release tweet was all on him and is about as firm a public death sentence as one can have.
Mahvel fatigue
China will save it like always.
I don't even think that's a hot take. Seems very likely to me.
MHWilliams
Member
Guy Ritchie is already signed to direct Disney's live-action Aladdin.
Dude, you need to get a Medium blog and Patreon.
hodayathink
Member
She was hired by Marvel to do GAF's favorite movie (Thor: TDW), left that project (I haven't read enough to know if that was her decision or theirs), and then went to do TV work until this. So the typical Hollywood not hiring female directors is part of it, and I think the Thor 2 thing might have been as well. And I think she might have had a kid in between all that?
reelbigtink
Member
Any early reviews on The Mummy? I'd like to see how WW stacks up against a Cruise missile vehicle.
I can only imagine what the Justice League review thread will become