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[it_wasn't_me]

We already have had many threads showing people here are concerned about Sony's anti-consumer policies, only really looking forward to the PS5 for Sony staples, but that was put into question when MS brought out several studios and increased development efforts on their new console attracting third-parties away from Sony slowly overtime.

Now the news has come out that not only will the PS5 be weaker than the Xbox Series X but it's a landslide victory across the board. Here are the PS5 specs

GPU: 10.28 TFLOPs, 36 CUs at 2.23GHz (variable frequency) GPU Architecture: Custom RDNA 2. Memory/Interface: 16GB GDDR6/256-bit. Memory Bandwith: 448GB/s.

This is horrifying for Sony, they only put out this rushed conference in response to the Series X reveal to try to soften the bad press they would get. But as it turns out they may have grossly miscalculated.

Will you still buy a PS5 first even though it will be significantly weaker and filled with anti-consumer policies like censorship etc?

Which anti-consumer policies?

 

[JAMMA]

Hahaha

 

[Musky_Cheese]

I love V Voost Kain threads lol

 

[JAMMA]

Which anti-consumer policies?

Haha!!!!!!!!

 

[indigoSociety]

Wait , fanboys still exist in 2020 ?

 

[Coolwhhip]

I will buy a ps5 or xbox based on games obviously. If MS finally uses Rare right, with Banjo Kazooie 3 Im in.

 

[Romulus]

The PS5 wont be at 10.2 when anything pushed the machine, even Cerny himself said that. It will be at 9 something most of the time. Plus cpu faster on XSX, ram faster on XSX. PS5 has twice as fast SSD though so 5 secs loading on PS5 will take 10 or 11 secs on XSX. I know this is going to be pushed into a huge thing, as its the only thing to hold onto now, but its literally a few seconds we are talking here.

The bandwidth is close though and I don't see that CPU boost doing much at all when pushing high fidelity games.

I mean ps4 was 40% more powerful and most everything was a 900p vs 1080p situation. Not huge in most cases despite attempts to make it that way.I just see ps5 hovering at lower resolutions on the dynamic scaler, that's it.

 

[dEvAnGeL]

If only people had the passion for washing their hands as they do creating dumb threads and supporting corporations.

 

[Vawn]

Choose One:

- I like Xbox and believe in human rights

- I prefer PlayStation and also believe human trafficking is a good thing

 

[Arkage]

You and your "Sony is anti-consumer" brigade:

Also, where is the "I will buy whichever console comes out first" option in the poll?

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Haha!!!!!!!!

Never heard for "HAHA" anti-consumer policies

 

[ethomaz]

PS5 day one.

I hope it is $399.

BTW there is no reasonable option in the poll.

 

[Woo-Fu]

I'm surprised Voost can drag himself away from his Stadia to post a thread like this.

If the PS5 turns out to be significantly less powerful in practice maybe it'll be reason for them to lighten up on all those imaginary sony-specific anti-consumer policies.

 

[hunthunt]

LMAO @ the Astroturfing tag.

I genuinely dont care about the lack of power, we already have the Xbox One X which is almost 3 times more faster than Ps4 and no one gives a flying fuck about it

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Those poll options. Yikes

 

[Voost Kain]

Oh, so facts are astroturfing now.

November is going to be very painful for a lot of people.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Fuck your poll answers, honestly.

I'll be getting the box that has exclusive games I'm interested in. That means PS5 most likely, since I will already have a powerful gaming PC.

 

[SGRU]

Games make a console win, not power, you dumb-dumb.

Thread closed.

 

[lock2k]

PS2 wasn't the most powerful and it won. Close thread.

The XSX is promising but it doesn't win anything by default. It does not work like that.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Oh, so facts are astroturfing now.

November is going to be very painful for a lot of people.

Like your Stadia predictions?

 

[BlackOlivesMatter]

My Haloz can beat up your Godz of Warz hur dur dur...

Get back to me when your balls drop op

 

[Hobbygaming]

We already have had many threads showing people here are concerned about Sony's anti-consumer policies, only really looking forward to the PS5 for Sony staples, but that was put into question when MS brought out several studios and increased development efforts on their new console attracting third-parties away from Sony slowly overtime.

Now the news has come out that not only will the PS5 be weaker than the Xbox Series X but it's a landslide victory across the board. Here are the PS5 specs

GPU: 10.28 TFLOPs, 36 CUs at 2.23GHz (variable frequency) GPU Architecture: Custom RDNA 2. Memory/Interface: 16GB GDDR6/256-bit. Memory Bandwith: 448GB/s.

This is horrifying for Sony, they only put out this rushed conference in response to the Series X reveal to try to soften the bad press they would get. But as it turns out they may have grossly miscalculated.

Will you still buy a PS5 first even though it will be significantly weaker and filled with anti-consumer policies like censorship etc?

PS5 still on top judging by the current votes lol

 

[Psykodad]

Honestly, right now the PS5 is underwhelming.

But the situation is interesting as well, purely for the fact of the possible existence of Series X, which is rumored to be 6Tf.

So, rn we have:
XSX at 12 Tf
PS5 at 9-10Tf

Giving XSX the power advantage and PS5 likely the price advantage.

Now the game really begins, because does the Series S exist?

 

[CatLady]

I will buy an XsX because I was ALWAYS going to buy one, but for the love of all that is holy could you please stop making these threads about Sony's anti-consumer policies????

 

[Dory16]

Nobody cares about teraflops, nobody. Not a single person is going to the store and buying a console because one has more flops than the other. They buy a console because it has better games, or because that's what their friends play on.

You can spin better, I'm sure. Say your favourite game of this year is on GameCube for example.

 

[Stuart360]

Nobody cares about teraflops, nobody. Not a single person is going to the store and buying a console because one has more flops than the other. They buy a console because it has better games, or because that's what their friends play on.

Did your internet crap out for the first 4 years of this gen?

 

[GHG]

Are you fucking kidding me? The proprietary SSD is the most anti-consumer thing talked about in the last few days.

 

[Swauny Jones]

I don't think people realize that the performance won't be really that noticeable at all when comparing both side by side.

 

[Neff]

Xbox will have to show a Herculean effort to get me to re-join that family. I'm lukewarm on the way Microsoft approaches gaming, and I hate the XB1 UI with a passion. I prefer the way PlayStation does things.

That said, I'm not buying either until must-have games show up.

I don't think people realize that the performance won't be really that noticeable at all when comparing both side by side.

This. The performance for both will be so astronomically high that it will be incredibly hard (and hugely expensive) for developers to realistically push palpable limits.

 

[Self High Five]

The PS5 wont be at 10.2 when anything pushed the machine, even Cerny himself said that. It will be at 9 something most of the time

He actually said the opposite regarding 2.23ghz:

"We expect the GPU spend at or close to that frequency & performance. When the worst case scenerio game arrives, it will run at a lower clockspeed. Not to much lower. To reduce power at 10% it will only take a couple of percent reduction in frequency, so I expect any downlocking to be pretty minor."

Plus cpu faster on XSX

Definitely.

Plus cpu faster on XSX, ram faster on XSX. PS5 has twice as fast SSD though so 5 secs loading on PS5 will take 10 or 11 secs on XSX. I know this is going to be pushed into a huge thing, as its the only thing to hold onto now, but its literally a few seconds we are talking here.

This will be interesting because Series X will only have 10GB dedicated to the GPU with the rest split into a slower speed (slower than PS5). Overall the PS5 ram is slower but all 16GB will be available for the devs choosing. Still an advantage for the X but we don't know how much yet.

PS5 has twice as fast SSD though so 5 secs loading on PS5 will take 10 or 11 secs on XSX. I know this is going to be pushed into a huge thing, as its the only thing to hold onto now, but its literally a few seconds we are talking here.

We just don't know at this point because mandatory SSD's for consoles are new. You could very well be right but we don't know the design direction third parties will go. Are we talking about faster loading screens or no loading screens at all? How will it all work with texture & asset loading? On paper the difference is big but in practice, who knows.

This is not me spinning here as the Series X clearly has a power advantage but I don't think too obvious yet how big it is. I think the bigger story here is Sony doing a major fuck up with BC. How can they cap their CU count at 36 (same as Pro) and still have only 100 games benefit from boost mode? MS killed it with their BC solution.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Yeah, that’s why people jumped from 360 to PS4 at the start of the gen,

Short term memories round here.

They probably got tired of the red rings of death. Not to mention the always online bs. The higher price point for the xbox but yeah it was all about the slightly better specs of the ps4 lol

 

[NoMoChokeSJ]

Here's the reality, and I day this as somebody who prefers the xbox brand, Sony is still going to outsell the xbox. Regardless of price or performance the Playstation will still be the better seller. The reason is simple... Sony has a larger base worldwide. MS primarily catered to the US and Britain and I expect the will do the same this generation, hence they will sell less.

 

[Ceadeus]

The one that brang PSO2 in NA

 

[diffusionx]

Did your internet crap out for the first 4 years of this gen?

Have you forgotten about the entire history of console videogames? The most powerful console rarely wins. Other facts are are much more important than computing power. I would bet that less than 10% of PS4 owners these days know what a teraflop is, or how many it has.

You can spin better, I'm sure. Say your favourite game of this year is on GameCube for example.

I have no dog in this fight, as I plan to stick with PC for now. Point is nothing was lost or won today, it will come down to price, services, and games.

 

[tflopsmatter]

I will not buy any console that is not a true generational leap. For the PS5 to be a true generational leap it would need to have 12.88TF. It didn't even come close.

 

[tflopsmatter]

I would say that Microsoft is more anticonsumer because their console must be activated online

 

[GeorgPrime]

I just cant stand Xbox. Dont know why. Iam not even a fan of digital only games

 

[Old Empire.]

I be buying the xbox series at launch. I still get the PS5 down the road.

I had both this gen i do the same again.

 

[Starfield]

Why do these threads written by 10 year olds even exist?

 

[Alphagear]

If you're talking about America and UK only then Yes. The rest of planet Earth is Playstation.

 

[Lionel Richie]

It looks like the STADIA may win out after all based Voost, we made it

 

[DESTROYA]

Stadia misses you V Voost Kain and promised to stop laughing at you, but not after this thread.
How more cringy can you get with this biased poll.

 

[Shambala]

Wait , fanboys still exist in 2020 ?

Of course

 

[Kokoloko85]

Whats with all these 2 question threads with 2 choices determine what console to buy and the choice is always negative for PS5....
How about I’ll buy the console that has good games which means... not xbox
Microsoft minions at work Lol

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

If hardware power mattered in a platform's success, the Playstation 2 wouldn't have sold nearly as many units as it did.

 

[teezzy]

Wait , fanboys still exist in 2020 ?

Oh, we definitely out here.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

I'd like to see the alternate reality where the ps5 had better specs just to compare the meltdowns and cock waving lol.

 

[Poplin]

What are their anti consumer policies? Havent seen any called out beyond this poll

 

[Kagero]

Doesn't change a thing. Sony first party is all that matters. They are going to make the PS5 sing. I'm willing to bet that despite the power differences (not even much) The PS5 will have the best looking games.

 

[Paperboy]

Power doesn't matter when the developers have to match the performance between the two consoles to keep the development costs at a minimum.

On a more serious note, it would honestly not surprise me if the coming Xbox is going to be up to $200 more expensive than the Playstation. Because it's Microsoft's premium model and they said a cheaper Xbox is coming later.