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[DavJay]

Sounds like he is guilty from his new response comically playing the victim. 600k is nothing because of the 10 years inflation.

 

[EverythingsOverrated]

Sounds like he is guilty from his new response comically playing the victim.

Yup, I was thinking the same while watching his response. The whole thing is sketchy. While I'm not ready to throw the guy in prison, the fact that he used a huge portion of his almost 20 minute video to deflect and bring up his family over and over has me more suspicious than before.

His actions have been suspicious as hell and anyone that can't admit that much completely lacks any form of critical thinking.

 

[Scotty W]

Sad to see y’all jumping on the hate wagon. If you were in the same situation, you’d’ve don’t the same!

 

[DForce]

I thought his response video was good, but donating the money after being called out is very suspicious behavior.


IF he did, then...yeah.. suspicious.

 

[Dick Jones]

Anyone do the math on interest and was that handed over?

 

[Dacvak]

I host a charity event every year, and while it’s true that donations usually take months and months before they’re fully submitted to the charity, it never ever takes THIS long. It’s wild to me that they continued to have yearly events all without transferring funds to any charity.

This is a bad look and bad response from this dude.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Anyone do the math on interest and was that handed over?

i did and only god knows.

 

[Evil Calvin]

I only donate to animal charities. As most other charities are scams and BS.

 

[bender]

I do think Jobst and Mutahar got over the skis with some of the accusations they made after their initials videos and that's mostly due to their lack of understanding of charities, tax and accounting practices. That said, Jirard looks like he got his hand caught in the cookie jar. Maybe it's okay to collect donations to pool them for a restricted donation, but if that's really the case then why donate now? His initial interview with Jobst/Mutahar came off incredibly poorly in asking them for suggestions of which organization to donate to. And according to Jirard, both his legal team and accounts said he did noting wrong. So again, why donate now? t's also incredibly poor form to repeatedly tout the charities that you've donated to when you've donated nothing monetarily. That's a lot worse than not just being "transparent" and probably is in the realm of fraud. At best, Jirard is a liar and lied to his audience to entice them to donate to his charity. It's a good thing he is stepping away from Open Hand. No one should trust him again, especially when it comes to charity. I can understand wanting to take legal action towards Jobst and Mutahar but I do wonder what it accomplishes. Jirard and has some well deserved egg on his face and I do wonder who would foot the bill for legal council. The Open Hand Foundation?

 

[Chechack]

Open Hand Foundation Provides AFTD $600K for FTD Research | AFTD

AFTD is pleased to announce that we have received a gift of $600,000 from the Open Hand Foundation to further its mission to hasten a cure for FTD and improve

www.theaftd.org

It seems that the money had finally been donated as promised. Now to see what happen in the next few weeks. Will this be enough?

Why are the fans of him forgetting the part where he only donated now after 10 years only when this issue is raised?

Its more of a "im sorry i got caught" move

 

[bender]

Why are the fans of him forgetting the part where he only donated now after 10 years only when this issue is raised?

Its more of a "im sorry i got caught" move

Bigger donations can come with restrictions to the organization being donated to (we want 90% of the donation used for research and only 10% for administration, etc.) but the amount donated probably has to be significant so if you are a smaller charity, pooling years of donations to accomplish this makes sense. Maybe that's the intent here but the optics point to your bolded statement.

-When Jirard did the initial interview, he should have pointed this out and not been flustered. Guys, who do you think I should donate to?
-He also shouldn't have rattled of multiple charities during multiple charity drives that Open Hand had donated to. That's just an outright lie.
-Donating a few weeks after this getting brought to light probably isn't a coincidence.

 

[Sgt.Asher]

Now it's up to whatever audit to reveal what happened. I simply can't trust Jirad's word on this as he lied about the charities he was "working" with.

Then there is the him claiming that 100% of donations were going to charities, yet having admin costs to run indieland, whilst also saying he didn't want donations to go to admin costs.

 

[ssringo]

So again, why donate now?

-Donating a few weeks after this getting brought to light probably isn't a coincidence.

Assuming there's no malfeasance going on (and the likely incoming audit will determine that), enough people were upset about the situation so they might as well donate it now to at least try and turn the narrative to some extent. Continuing to hold on to it wasn't going to do them any favors regardless of legality/morality/etc. I imagine it's also part of his stepping back from the whole charity thing to donate what they had.

 

[tomato shrub]

Reckon he can bounce back from this?

Surely he can't be trusted running a charity going forward at the very least :S

I hope the irs are doing an audit. I don't trust him...

He seems to have a strong fanboy bubble around him all cushy and positive comments under the video. But on his own reddit all the defenders seem to get downvoted into oblivion, so thankfully the majority of people hasn't gone insane yet (the reddit mod is one of the stockholm-syndromed ones though who has now banned all talk on the topic lol).

 

[mitch1971]

Wonder if he'll be back on Skillup?

 

[violence]

So he didn't make enough money and wasn't in a hurry?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Why are the fans of him forgetting the part where he only donated now after 10 years only when this issue is raised?

Its more of a "im sorry i got caught" move

So he finally donated now? All of it, or some of it?

No doubt he's only donating then cause he got caught. Interestingly, nobody knows what he did with the $600k accrued over 10 years. He might had taken the money and invested it or bought a house. Maybe he sunk it into NVidia stock 5x the money. So ya he'll give back $600k, but he'll bank the rest which will be shown in records unrelated to those charity forms.

 

[Salz01]

The beard just grosses me out. I roll my eyes if he plays the victim. Money should be donated long ago.

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

He saw this quote and thought it would apply to him, lmao

 

[diffusionx]

I do think Jobst and Mutahar got over the skis with some of the accusations they made after their initials videos and that's mostly due to their lack of understanding of charities, tax and accounting practices. That said, Jirard looks like he got his hand caught in the cookie jar. Maybe it's okay to collect donations to pool them for a restricted donation, but if that's really the case then why donate now? His initial interview with Jobst/Mutahar came off incredibly poorly in asking them for suggestions of which organization to donate to. And according to Jirard, both his legal team and accounts said he did noting wrong. So again, why donate now? t's also incredibly poor form to repeatedly tout the charities that you've donated to when you've donated nothing monetarily. That's a lot worse than not just being "transparent" and probably is in the realm of fraud. At best, Jirard is a liar and lied to his audience to entice them to donate to his charity. It's a good thing he is stepping away from Open Hand. No one should trust him again, especially when it comes to charity. I can understand wanting to take legal action towards Jobst and Mutahar but I do wonder what it accomplishes. Jirard and has some well deserved egg on his face and I do wonder who would foot the bill for legal council. The Open Hand Foundation?

I think the lawsuit threat is a bluff. Because once he sues them then everything comes out. It makes great PR, though, which is why so many people say it without following through.

 

[mitch1971]

which is why so many people say it without following through.

I bet he followed through when he seen that original video.

 

[Tangerine]

Long response for those invested.

I can't summarise yet as I've yet to watch it myself

 

[Shifty1897]

TLDR: Scammer is upset that he got caught, spins wheels, panics, misdirects, threatens legal action to try and discourage others from investigating, but absolutely will not follow through because if he did, it would just expose himself further.

 

[Mowcno]

I like how Jirard says "I made statements potentially implying donations were made when they had not yet been."

One of the statements was, when talking about the University of San Francisco, that they were "one of their main funding support partners." That is not 'potentially implying' anything. You are explicitly saying you are funding them.

 

[FunkMiller]

He's clearly quite happy to openly lie on camera about where the donations were going. If nothing else, an official, open book audit is required.

 

[Tangerine]

So scummy. Pimping out his dead mum while lying repeatedly.

 

[alstrike]

I saw this coming ever since this broke out but good to have confirmation that they have dropped Jirard.

 

[bishopcruz]

He's clearly quite happy to openly lie on camera about where the donations were going. If nothing else, an official, open book audit is required.

Where are the lies? At most he said he was "working with" the different organizations, which can easily fall under figuring out what's needed for unrestricted donations. The implication is there, don't get me wrong, but not quite lying. That would of course assume his paper trail of communication with these organizations was true, and where they were in talks at the time. As for the none of it goes to us, that means it all goes to the foundation, and expenses in setting up events comes out of that. Still looks like a charity with no full time employees and an unrealistic restricted donations goal let things slide for way too long which is a problem, but doesn't seem to be what Jobst is implying.

 

[Draugoth]

Safe to say that Jihad is a criminal isnt it?

 

[ckaneo]

Where are the lies? At most he said he was "working with" the different organizations, which can easily fall under figuring out what's needed for unrestricted donations. The implication is there, don't get me wrong, but not quite lying. That would of course assume his paper trail of communication with these organizations was true, and where they were in talks at the time. As for the none of it goes to us, that means it all goes to the foundation, and expenses in setting up events comes out of that. Still looks like a charity with no full time employees and an unrealistic restricted donations goal let things slide for way too long which is a problem, but doesn't seem to be what Jobst is implying.

Stop caping for him. He's lying through his teeth.

 

[demigod]

So scummy. Pimping out his dead mum while lying repeatedly.

This really grinds my gears. I hope the dude gets whats coming for him.

Where are the lies? At most he said he was "working with" the different organizations, which can easily fall under figuring out what's needed for unrestricted donations. The implication is there, don't get me wrong, but not quite lying. That would of course assume his paper trail of communication with these organizations was true, and where they were in talks at the time. As for the none of it goes to us, that means it all goes to the foundation, and expenses in setting up events comes out of that. Still looks like a charity with no full time employees and an unrealistic restricted donations goal let things slide for way too long which is a problem, but doesn't seem to be what Jobst is implying.

Are you really that ignorant. His charity videos implied that he donated already to various charities, dementia / alzheimmer.

 

[Shifty1897]

I saw this coming ever since this broke out but good to have confirmation that they have dropped Jirard.

I was wondering how long before this would happen.

 

[Tangerine]

I fail to see how anyone can trust him going forward. It's a huge deal charity fraud. Everyone who donated feels slighted and repulsed and most who never donated, if they objectively look at the evidence and lies he's said, feel repulsed too.

I think he'll continue his own YouTube channel going forward too see if he can recover and see how many views he gets.

I hope he feels like the POS he is. Again, his dementia riddled mother was used to gain more support/donations. Ugh

 

[EverythingsOverrated]

I fail to see how anyone can trust him going forward. It's a huge deal charity fraud. Everyone who donated feels slighted and repulsed and most who never donated, if they objectively look at the evidence and lies he's said, feel repulsed too.

I think he'll continue his own YouTube channel going forward too see if he can recover and see how many views he gets.

I hope he feels like the POS he is. Again, his dementia riddled mother was used to gain more support/donations. Ugh

I feel a lot of people will continue to give Jirard a pass short of an actual federal conviction and if that happens there will still be people in denial. I'm looking forward to Karl Jobst's impending video drop that's coming up. He sounds like he's pretty confident in some additional findings he's come across. I'm not saying he 100% should be convicted of fraud, but so far, the more things unfold, the worse it looks. Should be interesting.

I was talking to one of my friends about this whole thing, especially his response video, and we became fixated on the fact that this guy either has some of the worst lawyers ever or he's not listening to their advice. Between the initial call with him, Mutahar and Jobst and his response video, it seems like he's given more ammo/potential for contradictions.

 

[bishopcruz]

This really grinds my gears. I hope the dude gets whats coming for him.



Are you really that ignorant. His charity videos implied that he donated already to various charities, dementia / alzheimmer.

I am talking about that tweet that supposedly had all the lies. Not seeing any there. Don't watch Jobst because he's skeezy as hell.

 

[Krathoon]

You would think Jirard got a good chunk of change from being on G4.

 

[nowhat]

...and the saga continues:



If Jirard really does take this to court, I'll be investing in popcorn futures.

 

[Ashler]

...and the saga continues:



If Jirard really does take this to court, I'll be investing in popcorn futures.

Ouch...!

 

[Hoppa]

If it wasn’t donated and just sat in an account, wouldn’t it have generated interest over the years and wouldn’t that interest be taxable? Maybe different rules for an nfp/charity

 

[Tangerine]

...and the saga continues:



If Jirard really does take this to court, I'll be investing in popcorn futures.

Watching now. Jirard owned so far. Hope he does sue them at this point. Last thing on his completionist list before he transforms into his final form!

 

[Disco Dave]

I do think Jobst and Mutahar got over the skis with some of the accusations they made after their initials videos and that's mostly due to their lack of understanding of charities, tax and accounting practices. That said, Jirard looks like he got his hand caught in the cookie jar. Maybe it's okay to collect donations to pool them for a restricted donation, but if that's really the case then why donate now? His initial interview with Jobst/Mutahar came off incredibly poorly in asking them for suggestions of which organization to donate to. And according to Jirard, both his legal team and accounts said he did noting wrong. So again, why donate now? t's also incredibly poor form to repeatedly tout the charities that you've donated to when you've donated nothing monetarily. That's a lot worse than not just being "transparent" and probably is in the realm of fraud. At best, Jirard is a liar and lied to his audience to entice them to donate to his charity. It's a good thing he is stepping away from Open Hand. No one should trust him again, especially when it comes to charity. I can understand wanting to take legal action towards Jobst and Mutahar but I do wonder what it accomplishes. Jirard and has some well deserved egg on his face and I do wonder who would foot the bill for legal council. The Open Hand Foundation?

Agree completely. If this ends up in a courtroom I can forsee an Amber Heard type defence. Jirard should just take the L and get on with making YouTube content. He obtained money in the form of donations and he didn't donate that money until he was called out. There's no justification for having that money sitting in an account for over nine years. None.

 

[demigod]

...and the saga continues:



If Jirard really does take this to court, I'll be investing in popcorn futures.

I hope he does sue so we can get some entertainment. He will be laughed out in court. Dude committed charity fraud and keeps using his dead mom to manipulate. Human trash.

 

[FunkMiller]

Agree completely. If this ends up in a courtroom I can forsee an Amber Heard type defence. Jirard should just take the L and get on with making YouTube content.

Not sure they’ll let him film from his cell.

 

[Disco Dave]

Not sure they’ll let him film from his cell.

Would make for interesting content. Jirards greatest completion challenge; obtaining 500 Korok seeds in BOTW or going 100 days without dropping the soap in the shower.

 

[Darkkahn]

Whoever has that much beard needs to be put behind metal bars, fraud or otherwise.

 

[Herbspiceguy]

It's like he consulted a ghetto lawyer. GG.

 

[Phobos Base]

I hope he does sue so we can get some entertainment. He will be laughed out in court. Dude committed charity fraud and keeps using his dead mom to manipulate. Human trash.

"These people slandered me by saying that I ran multiple fundraisers where I specifically said the money was going to charity but instead sat in my bank account."

"So you donated the money?"

"No, it sat in my bank account"

"Next case!"

 

[FunkMiller]

"These people slandered me by saying that I ran multiple fundraisers where I specifically said the money was going to charity but instead sat in my bank account."

"So you donated the money?"

"No, it sat in my bank account"

"Next case!"

Yeah, it's kind of pathetic. Jirard is probably one of two things - an out and out fraud, who deliberately withheld charity donations for reasons we've yet to uncover, or he's a fantasist egomaniac, who bullshitted his way through a lot of charity live streams to sound righteous, and like a big man. Frankly, it's probably the latter. He probably didn't really know what the hell was going on with the foundation, spewed rubbish as a way of drawing in more fans and subscribers, and is now paying the penalty for the deceit.

He might end up standing as a good cautionary tale to other YouTubers about the dangers of letting your success and 'celebrity' go to your head.

 

[MayauMiao]

I find it ironic for Jirard called himself The Completionist, couldn't complete the donation until getting called out.

 

[Ashler]

Here's someone who actually has some validity to chime in on this: