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Zelda Wii U - Recap of 5 hours gameplay stream
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Ulysses 31
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I'm confident Ninty would want to show off the difference in power with the NX port, either way, it's still at least 8 months off and with current info available it makes more sense to wait which console to buy for Zelda BotW.
Goold luck with proving something like that.
They already pushed back the release once so that they could have a strong launch line-up, and they would do it again.
Pachter's reasoning was that anything goes as long as the system will be available for the holidays.
It'll be a "simultaneous" launch, meaning at most you'd have to wait for the WiiU version.
If they still desire to not piss of WiiU owners, it'll be parity like with TP all over again, except maybe for graphical fixes.
Skittzo0413
Member
Major miiverse epiphany!
I was watching the NWR direct gameplay and looking at the stamps on the map made me think about who placed them there, since we know in the final game the stamps don't automatically appear- the player has to place them there. So for the demo I'm assuming that some of those stamps are automatically there to guide players in their limited time with the demo.
But for the final game, I'm strongly wagering that there will be a function where you can "download" stamps from other players, which will essentially help you find secrets throughout the world. So there will be some in game mechanism to let you see stamps on your map that other players have placed, sort of like the Dark Souls soapstone messages, which will show you that, "hey, there's treasure at this location!" but which can be voted on to determine if they're helpful/accurate or just lying.
This seems like such an obvious but smart miiverse feature.
Like you said, songs were primarily for warping and as a replacement for "keys." A lot of the song functions, like changing the weather, skipping to the next day, making a copy of yourself, etc. could easily be done with Sheikah Runes too. If there is an instrument in this game I'm betting it will serve a pretty different function than what we've seen previously.
I was watching the NWR direct gameplay and looking at the stamps on the map made me think about who placed them there, since we know in the final game the stamps don't automatically appear- the player has to place them there. So for the demo I'm assuming that some of those stamps are automatically there to guide players in their limited time with the demo.
But for the final game, I'm strongly wagering that there will be a function where you can "download" stamps from other players, which will essentially help you find secrets throughout the world. So there will be some in game mechanism to let you see stamps on your map that other players have placed, sort of like the Dark Souls soapstone messages, which will show you that, "hey, there's treasure at this location!" but which can be voted on to determine if they're helpful/accurate or just lying.
This seems like such an obvious but smart miiverse feature.
Like you said, songs were primarily for warping and as a replacement for "keys." A lot of the song functions, like changing the weather, skipping to the next day, making a copy of yourself, etc. could easily be done with Sheikah Runes too. If there is an instrument in this game I'm betting it will serve a pretty different function than what we've seen previously.
SweetDonuts
Member
It doesn't seem to make much use of the gamepad at all so I wouldn't worry
Yes sharing secrets is good but what I'd really like to see is additional content being provided by Nintendo.
On the NX with a more robust system with the needed resources there are things which Nintendo can do to make the END game far more interesting. My personal idea is to provide a DLC Shrine Creator - allowing end game, user generated content. Being able to play your friend's shrines, top rated shrines and possibly weekly/monthly special dungeon created by Nintendo and other popular content creators would give this game far more replayability once you finish interacting with the regular hub world.
They could easily create a hub on a flying castle with a Mii Village where each Mii can be promoting their own shrine and you can select the type of Miis you see populating the area(friends, newest Shrines, most popular shrines etc).
Basically if you take inspiration from Skyrim you need to also take inspiration from the user generated content on PC. That's what really made Skyrim such a beast long term for the community.
I'm going to be disappointed if you can't whip out the instrument and noodle on it while you run around, like you could in Skyward Sword.
A guitar that turns into an electric guitar if you play it while snowboarding
I pretty much think of every mechanic in terms of "what if you could do this while snowboarding?!?" now
Skittzo0413
Member
Yeah someone earlier in the thread had this idea and I loved it. It sorta tied in with my theory that each shrine was created by a different developer of the game, and their last name became an anagram for the shrine's name. I can't figure out who Ke Numut could be though so I don't know how accurate my theory is... then again I'm just plain bad at anagrams.
Hopefully if we can create shrines then they come in other aesthetic styles... the ones shown so far are very similar looking (not mechanically, but style wise) and that can get super dull after 100 of those and then more user-generated shrines. Hopefully there are more than 10 different shrine aesthetics to choose from, maybe some of them actually changing the layouts or mechanics of the shrine too.
Edit:
I'm with Volotaire:
What's more badass than whipping out a grand piano while snowboarding on a shield?
ZeronosVega
Member
I really just want Link to be able find a guitar if only to go "El KaBong" on enemies with it. Having multiple instruments would be pretty cool.
……forgetit
Member
It's as powerful as the 360 and PS3 and those things got GTA V, it's not that crazy.
Slurpy2k20
Member
Yeah, it's pretty shocking, especially with all that's going on, including the draw distance, effects, physics, interactivity, how long elements stay in memory, etc.
Zombegoast
Member
Like every 1st party developer. Working on the system's strength. We still have another year to go for futher improvement. To think the game was going to come out at 2015 when it look like it was in alpha.
Honestly I wasn't that wowed by the game's visuals after playing Xenoblade X, but Zelda still looks really good thanks to the art style.
Xenoblade X looks great, but there's a lot more physics going on in BotW's world.
Throwing a piano at an endboss.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
The frame rate would be the big decider here. GTA V runs like a shit show on last gen. Even still XCX runs at a stable 30fps GTA be like 12 FPS sometimes
Zombegoast
Member
And GTA5 on last gen doesn't even have grass that you can cut and burn.
Neoleo2143
Member
GTAV falls apart when you try to interact with it, it's an utter failure in game design. Zelda is so polished than not even free form physics interactions break the experience and instead add to the creative arsenal of the player.
You can bet that the game has also been in development for the NX since they announced the delay in early 2015. So that is about 2 years worth of development by the time it releases.
Majukun
Member
ìfind a crate,seal it in time,charge the kinetic energy and than see if you can jump on it and fly with it
Skittzo0413
Member
Imagine the types of physics systems we'll see in games built from the ground up for the NX, assuming the CPU NX>>>>XB1>PS4>>>>>>>>WiiU leak is legit.
I wonder if focusing heavily on physics based gameplay is a new direction overall for Nintendo... maybe this new type of Mario will be heavily physics based as well.
Edit: Side note, all of these amazing gifs in these Zelda threads are absolutely murdering my browser for some reason! Still love them though!
AcademicSaucer
Member
The enemies behave in interesting ways too.
...definitely the cartoon Link bomb shield thing!
If near an enemy encampment with trees nearby, get their attention and climb a tree and see if they try to burn you down, throw rocks, or what!
No need to imagine, it is 720p30.
You can tell straight away from the official screenshots that the resolution is indeed native 720p. For example:
As I can see neither any upscaling artefacts or any subpixel detail, it's definitely native. If you really want to be sure, you could pixel count but I don't think that's necessary. There does, however, appear to be some sort of low quality AA making things a little blurry.
And yeah, it's definitely 30fps in the footage.
Vampirolol
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The music from the trailer has been in my head since Tuesday and I just can't let it go.
Bloodporne
Member
I'm still not 100% sold on the open world aspect and if they can ultimately overcome the 'busy work/empty space' problems I have with open worlds I've played so far, but what they're showing here looks truly incredible.
The level of interaction and logic on display is fucking awesome and more what I was always expecting from next gen myself.
I wasn't even remotely interested in another Nintendo console after the Wii and WiiU but this might sell me an NX like Bloodborne sold me a PS4 if it can remedy the typical open world ailments.
The level of interaction and logic on display is fucking awesome and more what I was always expecting from next gen myself.
I wasn't even remotely interested in another Nintendo console after the Wii and WiiU but this might sell me an NX like Bloodborne sold me a PS4 if it can remedy the typical open world ailments.
Weltall Zero
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It's amazing that after having watched close to 10 gameplay hours of the game, there are still videos with new stuff like that. Aside from the several things mentioned (laser reflect, etc.) I loved how the Bokoblins dropped their shields and weapons and ran when chased by the bees, making them sitting ducks.
It's beautiful from that awkward cut two minutes on. I need more!
Skittzo0413
Member
I don't have the sharpest eye when it comes to graphics- the actual in game footage also does include some AA, right? I haven't really seen much in the way of jaggies, so that's pretty nice.
Same, and when it first was revealed I was super underwhelmed by the music. I wanted my epic expensive as hell score like the TP trailer!!
But yeah the music grew on me SO much over the past few days, I need to hear it every few hours now.
I have a problem
The busy work issue in most open world games is mostly related to completing annoying fetch quests to advance the plot, but from what Aonuma has said you can essentially go straight to the final boss if you want to from the start, so I imagine if there are busywork fetch quests then they aren't at all going to be mandatory to completing the game.
KratosEnergyDrink
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Have you seen Xenoblade Chronicles X on Wii U? It's even more astonishing.
TheCongressman1
Member
Right, this is going to be about uncovering the mystery and tackling challenges when you're ready, rather than going through motions to progress.
Holy Order Sol
Member
I wonder if they're going to do the same thing as Xenoblade X with texture packs as separate downloads.
Oh shiiiit.
dampflokfreund
Banned
Steppe Talus boss fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpkQJkStrnE
You can hear the more fast paced battle theme. I love it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpkQJkStrnE
You can hear the more fast paced battle theme. I love it!
morthbound
Member
What's really interesting is that this is an animation that most people will never see in their playthrough.
eh...I'm sure a lot of people will see it. The game seems filled with chests.
Honestly I wasn't that wowed by the game's visuals after playing Xenoblade X, but Zelda still looks really good thanks to the art style.
I mean, i dunno, Xenoblade is certainly pushing the limits of the system but it also had stuff popping up 10 feet in front of your face and it was rather jarring.
morthbound
Member
The animation will only happen if you kick open a chest without pants equipped which also gives you shoes. The game gives a shirt and pants at the start of the game so it's unlikely that someone would open a metal chest without pants equipped.
Akhe
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Dwight Schrute
Member
That's one finicky wind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6NM9T7ARoA
I'm sure there are many other examples out there.
AcademicSaucer
Member
The bokoblins close one eye when firing a bow.
I'd love ocarina to come back
I wouldn't mind seeing the Recorder from the first game make a return. Effectively the same as the Ocarina, but I don't want to rely to heavily on that imagery. Pan flute would be cool again too, though that was "just" used in Spirit Tracks.