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Marvel's ANT-MAN Trailer #1

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Ashhong

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Not bad. Iirc, the GOTG trailers were all pretty bad. At least the early ones. Marvel trailer are usually all over the place tone wise
 

mr2xxx

Banned
Disappointing, I thought it was going to be more of a comedy but the trailer failed at getting that across. Hopefully the other trailers have a more light hearted tone.
 
Came in expecting the trailer not an IOU. :/

Trailer thread without trailer...

Clearly not, since I don't see a trailer link here.

OP just prematurely ejaculated.

Well that was a great trail....

Oh, no trailer in this thread yet? Okay.

Three threads about the same thing started by the same guy.

This bloke so wants to be the first to post Marvel threads, he gets in before the trailer is even up.

The trailer itself wasn't bad, but it didn't really do much to get the hype for Ant-Man going. Hopefully the full trailer will do that. The suit looks great.
 
I hope this is the first huge Marvel bomb. First for wasting dear Edgars time. And second, because I am sick of their bland movies, and I am disturbed by how they are harming cinema.

Stories are good because you have endings. You need a good ending to have satisfaction. But Marvel movies never end, they are just a never ending stream of fighting against glowing rocks.

I like resolution and Marvel cannot ever give this.
 

pulga

Banned
Michael Douglas absolutely phoned this film in, didn't he?

This bloke so wants to be the first to post Marvel threads, he gets in before the trailer is even up.

It's astounding, I'm absolutely positive Neoxon's got some quota he has to fulfill. His thread making history is legit
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Neoxon

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I hope this is the first huge Marvel bomb. First for wasting dear Edgars time. And second, because I am sick of their bland movies, and I am disturbed by how they are harming cinema.

Stories are good because you have endings. You need a good ending to have satisfaction. But Marvel movies never end, they are just a never ending stream of fighting against glowing rocks.

I like resolution and Marvel cannot ever give this.
Each movie has a proper conclusion to its singular story. The overarching story with the Infinity Stones won't end until Infinity War, & even then the story continues. That's the point of a cohesive cinematic universe. It's a very weird complaint.
 

number11

Member
The script is written by Adam McKay/Paul Rudd, so you know the film will be full of comedy.. This makes it even more bizzare that they would release such a serious trailer.
 

duckroll

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This bloke so wants to be the first to post Marvel threads, he gets in before the trailer is even up.

Come on you gotta give him more credit than that. Not only does he want so badly to be the first to post any Marvel thread, he also repeatedly double-posts in every Marvel thread when people don't have something new to say within 20 minutes, and he even posts links without reading them or thinking about them first!

:p
 

Log4Girlz

Member
Come on you gotta give him more credit than that. Not only does he want so badly to be the first to post any Marvel thread, he also repeatedly double-posts in every Marvel thread when people don't have something new to say within 20 minutes, and he even posts links without reading them or thinking about them first!

:p

When you put it that way he sounds shallow. Like. .. the Marvel of posters.


;)
 
The script is written by Adam McKay/Paul Rudd, so you know the film will be full of comedy.. This makes it even more bizzare that they would release such a serious trailer.

Yeah, this was my concern when Wright "left", that they wanted a more serious film about a dude that shrinks to the size of an ant and yet retains his strength who fights another small dude called Yellowjacket and has a love interest called Wasp.

There is honestly only so far you can with putting wacky powers onscreen.
 
Each movie has a proper conclusion to its singular story. The overarching story with the Infinity Stones won't end until Infinity War, & even then the story continues. That's the point of a cohesive cinematic universe. It's a very weird complaint.

Do you know the meaning of the word conclusion? It cannot be a conclusion if there is a sequel.

No, there is no resolution, no catharsis, and no satisfaction. The only defense Marvel has is, they are children's movies thus it is ok to infect us with such a horrible and completely inferior way of telling stories, not even inferior but broken.

We're essentially watching a TV show with no planned finale, only stop when they stop bombing and then reboot. No endings ever.

Kinda like Marvel comics mainstream stuff. And guess what? Almost always those comics almost ALWAYS, start good and then inevitably become crap until no one cares about them. Well the movies will not come out enough to suffer such a drastic fate, yet the same fate of declining quality holds true.

A trilogy should have a damned ending!
 

Wiktor

Member
I'm a bit dissapointed that it's not GotG2 that's supposed to be Marvel's heist movies. Those always work with full team of characters
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Do you know the meaning of the word conclusion? It cannot be a conclusion if there is a sequel.

No, there is no resolution, no catharsis, and no satisfaction. The only defense Marvel has is, they are children's movies thus it is ok to infect us with such a horrible and completely inferior way of telling stories, not even inferior but broken.

We're essentially watching a TV show with no planned finale, only stop when they stop bombing and then reboot. No endings ever.

Kinda like Marvel comics mainstream stuff. And guess what? Almost always those comics almost ALWAYS, start good and then inevitably become crap until no one cares about them. Well the movies will not come out enough to suffer such a drastic fate, yet the same fate of declining quality holds true.

A trilogy should have a damned ending!
It seems like you have an issue with the idea of a cinematic universe & want more one & done movies with no connection between movies. And the story arc will conclude with Infinity War, & a new story arc will start in Phase 4.
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Ant Man is just such a hard sell, and the way they're taking the funny version of his comic counterpart and turning it into a super serious movie...I dunno. This feels like the movie that could cause all the non-comic fans to be like "You know what? Superheroes are stupid."

I mean, I'm all for it because I'm a comic/MCU/DCU nerd, but when a normal person who barely cared about Captain America is looking at a movie called Ant Man and it's all dark and there is that generic voice over thing about becoming a hero and they try to make riding a flying bug look all epic...how does that person not jerryseinfeld.gif the hell out of there?
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
I see this thread is starting to turn into a "Grill Neoxon" thread. Eh, we all make mistakes. The thing is that we learn from them.
 

Sesuadra

Unconfirmed Member
this is the guardians of the galaxy first teaser all over again...lol

I liked it. not amazing but nice enough.
 
Come on you gotta give him more credit than that. Not only does he want so badly to be the first to post any Marvel thread, he also repeatedly double-posts in every Marvel thread when people don't have something new to say within 20 minutes, and he even posts links without reading them or thinking about them first!

:p

You're right. He's truly a master. Thank God GotG has finished now, he was really on fire with that movie.
 

Dead Man

Member
Do you know the meaning of the word conclusion? It cannot be a conclusion if there is a sequel.

No, there is no resolution, no catharsis, and no satisfaction. The only defense Marvel has is, they are children's movies thus it is ok to infect us with such a horrible and completely inferior way of telling stories, not even inferior but broken.

We're essentially watching a TV show with no planned finale, only stop when they stop bombing and then reboot. No endings ever.

Kinda like Marvel comics mainstream stuff. And guess what? Almost always those comics almost ALWAYS, start good and then inevitably become crap until no one cares about them. Well the movies will not come out enough to suffer such a drastic fate, yet the same fate of declining quality holds true.

A trilogy should have a damned ending!
Often there is more than one story occurring in a movie. some may conclude, some may not. Think of the Marvel movies as a TV series if you like. Some TV series have an episode story and a larger season long arc. Each episodes story gets a conclusion, just as each story in a Marvel movie does, the arc continues though.

Now if you just don't like the idea of serialised movies, just fucking say that.
 
It seems like you have an issue with the idea of a cinematic universe & want more one & done movies with no connection between movies. And the story arc will conclude with Infinity War, & a new story arc will start in Phase 4.

Its not that I want no connection between movies, the connection should not be the important part in telling a story. This connection is only cool in the beginning, but once the thrill wears off, what do you have? A shitty mandate that ruins movies.

Why was Iron Man 2 so shitty? According to the director, Marvel mandates.

Why did Edgar Wright leave Antman? Because the Marvel mandates were making the story 'unbelievably' horrific and crap, according to Edgar. And before that, Edgar had written an amazing script that everyone loved! But once again Marvels method makes the movie worse, the fact ppl might like it enough, does not change the reality it would;ve been better. Why did Thor 2 suck so much? Because the original director Patty Jenkins could not tell the story she was hired to tell, because can you guess it? The Marvel mandate of having everything lineup. Its a fucking terrible way of telling stories, that ruins movies over and over and over.

So, while some of these movies might be fun, and enjoyable, the Marvel method of making movies is definitely one where inferior movies are made, this is what the actual makers of the movies are saying themselves!

And when we have the comics to prove to us over and over and over again, that is is a completely shitty and flawed way to think about and create stories. Even Joss Whedon left writing XMen Comics, because of the exact same bullshit, Marvel Mandates.

He said, something along, " It hurts my head to think about all of Marvels Mandates. I kinda like it when everyone is having their own stories where we can do really cool things, rather than have to worry how everything lines up."

Like I said, when we have the comics as proof, I do not even find this all that debatable or controversial what I am saying, its time tested and proven!
 

sparkzero

Member
The Michael Douglas speech gives the trailer a too dramatic tone, while I was expecting more action and humor.

At least Paul Rudds jokes were great. And his abs.
 

Korten

Banned
Why did Edgar Wright leave Antman? Because the Marvel mandates were making the story horrific and crap, according to Edgar. And before that, Edgar had written an amazing script that everyone loved! But once again Marvels method makes the movie worse, the fact ppl might like it enough, does not change the reality it would;ve been better.

Pretty sure they split because...

1. Edgar was taking way too long. The original plans for the Avengers was to have both Ant-man and Wasp but since Edgar took to long they had to scrap that.

2. He wasn't incorporating ANY MCU into the film as far as we had been told so the movie wouldn't have fit. To which at that point there was no reason to do the film if it wasn't MCU. Since Marvel wants Ant-man to be along the avengers.
 
No no no no

You don't sell a movie about a guy called Ant-Man with generic dramatic music and slow-mo jump cuts. Nooooo. I thought they'd nailed the marketing with this, but this trailer was very poor.
 

duckroll

Member
Having an interconnected world is pretty fun. I don't think it's an either/or thing. You can have an interconnected world with in some circumstances limit what a creator could do with the story, and still tell different and interesting stories which have a unique writer's mark on it. Sometimes shit happens, sure, things don't turn as ideal for one reason or another. But that's exclusive to connected worlds. Even without that, studios can make it difficult for a singular "vision" to be executed. When we're talking about 150-200 million dollar blockbusters, it's a reality that people just navigate around. Some are more capable of doing it well than others.

Using comics as an example actually illustrates that it works more often than it doesn't. I don't think anyone expects a single writer to keep writing a franchise book forever, especially if they're talented. So if they can provide a great run for a few years, build up their own story arcs and tie stuff up before handing it off to the next writer, that's an accomplishment. For readers, having runs like that is satisfying. The storylines are often conclusive, and you can stop reading after that if you want to. Having other writers pick up after that doesn't diminish the story which was already written.

Is it try that totally stand alone and self contained stories told in mini-series by great writers are generally far better and more satisfying than ongoing franchise comics from a creative standpoint? Absolutely. But that doesn't really change anything because we can read stuff for different reasons. Enjoying a good Spider-man run knowing that the next writer runs it into the ground is different from appreciating something like Watchman.
 
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